Another injury: Madson to DL, Condrey recalled

by dajafi on May 5, 2007 4:08 PM EDT in News

Ryan Madson joined Tom Gordon on the disabled list Saturday:

The Phillies today placed righthander Ryan Madson on the 15-day disabled list with a strained left oblique.

They recalled righthander Clay Condrey (2.25 ERA in three appearances) to take his place.

Madson (0-2, 3.63 ERA in 12 appearances) said the oblique is something that has bothered him since spring training, but not until Thursday did it affect the way he pitched. Madson allowed two hits, one run and two walks in 1 2/3 innings in the 9-7 victory.
"It actually affected the way I threw Thursday, and that's when I knew I might need to stop before I hurt my arm or something else," Madson said.
Madson said he expects to be back in 15 days, although he said is is getting the muscle scanned Monday in Philadelphia.

I guess if there's good news here, it's that Madson looking wobbly in Thursday night's 9-7 win over the Giants might have had more to do with the injury than his returning to the terrible form of the season-opening series against the Braves.

Meanwhile, the bullpen now includes Condrey, Yoel Hernandez, Francisco Rosario and Fabio Castro. With Antonio Alfonseca evidently turning into a fat twelve-fingered pumpkin, Geoff Geary might want to think about trying to pitch lefty as well as righty.

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Re: Another injury: Madson to DL, Condrey recalled

The bullpen is in shambles, Howard and Burrell are producing nothing powerwise, we constantly leave runners on base, Garcia looks like the reincarnate of Kevin Millwood and Adam Eaton just looks plain awful. Other than that, things are looking up! Too many wild ups and downs on this team. Hamels and Moyer have been very good, but the rest of the starters have been bad or mediocre. The bullpen started off horrible, improved for a couple of weeks, and now is back to their putrid self. The lineup is dysfunctional once again: No clutch hitting, scoring early and then nothing the rest of the game, striking out a ton, poor baserunning, etc...It's no surprise they are where they are...This team needs a shakeup whether it be a new manager or a major trade because whatever they have now is not working. Good teams don't lose games like the one on Friday night. Good teams don't get spanked when their opponent commits four errors. SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE!!!!

by delb3175 on May 5, 2007 9:39 PM EDT reply actions

Re: Another injury: Madson to DL, Condrey recalled

delb - I've lost a lot confidence in the GM. That may be what needs to change. Do you really think this one can turn things around?

by AWH on May 6, 2007 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions

Re: Another injury: Madson to DL, Condrey recalled

In that I don't see how the Phils can catch either the Braves or Mets, and they need to run down one of them, I've pretty much lost hope for this season.

The problem with this in an operational sense is that the only way major changes happen is if the team loses 90 or more. I can't really want that, though, and as FTN noted in another thread, the offense is probably too good for that to happen anyway.

So it's another year--at least--on the Mediocrity Treadmill, waiting for Bill Giles to die (ugly sentiment, but there it is) so the team might be sold and some people with a clue might get to take over.

by dajafi on May 6, 2007 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Re: Another injury: Madson to DL, Condrey recalled

Hernandez and Rosario, I thought, did not look too bad today aside from one or two bad pitches each...funny but you would think a Veteran Catcher like Barajas would keep them from making those mistakes...

Overall though (and Saturday's loss to the Giants was the first game I've gotten to watch all of this season) not a half-bad game. For an undermanned bullpen I thought they threw fairly well, except for the way the 22 year old Castro handled facing a living legend.

Even Lieber pitched well today, the only major complaint I have would be why does Victorino with his arm not just play with his back to that RF wall and come in on everything in front of him?

by das411 on May 6, 2007 2:23 AM EDT reply actions

Re: Another injury: Madson to DL, Condrey recalled

Rosario is a guy that is going to make some mistakes, as he's a really raw rookie. The Phillies SHOULD allow him to make those mistakes, because they can't option him down without him clearing waivers. In the case of Castro, they can option him down, so I don't think his leash should be as long. I'd replace him with Bisenius if he struggles in a handful of outings.

by FTN414 on May 6, 2007 9:15 AM EDT reply actions

Friendly Cardinal fan stopping by.................

I come in peace lol...

Anyway, I have Garcia in my fantasy league and only have had the chance to watch him pitch in 2 games on TV. The last game being against the Braves. Is it me or has Freddy looked pretty darn bad so far. Pitches way up in the zone, no velocity to speak of. I do however understand he had a late start this spring. But he has shown me nothing yet to get excited about.

How do you Philly fans feel? Is he showing signs of improvement in your eyes? I just read Freddy ran into a grounds crew cart tonight and is iffy for his start Monday vs Ari. Oy vey.....

On a lighter note I have Rollins as my fantasy SS, and well...I thank you very much. He's a machine!

Perhaps Freddy is just over his peak?

by Pujols4MVP on May 7, 2007 12:55 AM EDT reply actions

Re: Friendly Cardinal fan

Our general feeling is that he's damaged goods--maybe not in the sense that there's a particular injury, but certainly in that he ain't the guy he was in, say, 2005 or even last year. I guess that's "past his peak." He's not old, but he's got a lot of miles on the arm. Velocity is up a little bit from his late-season work with the ChiSox, but not close to the mid-90s heat he used to bring.

And we're mostly pissed because our senescent part-time GM evidently didn't really bother to make sure he was healthy--that he was able to get Garcia, who sure looked like a solid 15-win, 200-inning guy, for one really good but not top 20 prospect (Gio Gonzalez) and another failed prospect (Gavin Floyd), somehow didn't raise any alarms.

The Phillies have an uncanny knack for bringing in free-agent-to-be pitchers who break your heart. I'm not sure it's coincidence that Garcia's wearing Kevin Millwood's old number.

As for Rollins... he's the real deal. Three triples this weekend. If the team weren't headed for third or fourth place, he'd be an MVP possibility.

by dajafi on May 7, 2007 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions

May I add,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

This is a very well written blog. I read 4 baseball blogs everyday. Stl, Det, Phi, and Chi Cubs, because I enjoy the writers.

Please please don't read this the wrong way, but for this blog to only get 10-20 posts per game day is sad. If someone wants to explain to me why this is, please do. And if I am way off on those numbers I am sorry. I did a quick glance and it just looked like very little traffic for a damn good blog.

Enough rambling...........

Freddy Garcia for Cy Young!

by Pujols4MVP on May 7, 2007 1:05 AM EDT reply actions

Re: May I add,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I think the problem is that we are too good. There is nothing left to be said.

by jonk on May 7, 2007 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions

For what it's worth

AL bullpen rankings, as posted by sportsmemo.

http://www.sportsmemo.com/handicappers/veno/articles/1131/

I expect the NL ranking to be posted soon in order to tell us what we already know. But, it will be interesting to see the haves and have nots in one compressed list, anyway.

by gr on May 9, 2007 12:28 PM EDT reply actions