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Props to the Fat Men

It's about time somebody gave some credit to the two Dominican fat guys on our pitching staff: Antonio Alfonseca and Jose Mesa. Both of them have consistently done a creditable (and sometimes superb) job for the Phillies out of the pen this year: 3.86 for Alfonseca in 46 games for Alfonseca, 2.52 (!) for Mesa in 24 games. And yet as recently as a week ago, there were people calling for Mesa to be released outright to make room for Kyle Lohse.

This just goes to show you: past performance, strikeout/walk ratio, career trendlines, and all the rest of it are the best long-term predictors of future performance that we have at our disposal. But sometimes in baseball, in the short term, weird stuff just happens. Sometimes guys -- especially relief pitchers -- find a way to gut out unexplainably good performances for a season or a half a season, even though they can't strike anyone out and their careers have been on the downswing for years.

Does this mean I think we should bring Mesa back for next season? Not a chance. (I'm ambivalent on Alfonseca.) But as long as he's got the hot hand right now, I have no problem with continuing to give him the ball. It's not like we're paying him anything. And both he and El Pulpo should get some applause for bailing us out in a big way this year.

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Re: Props to the Fat Men
worth noting that Mesa has as many unearned runs as earned runs (7), which makes his RA a much less impressive 5.04.

Alfonseca has benefited from an extreme 2.21 G/F ratio, which makes up for his propensity for giving up gobs and gobs of hits (53 in 42 IP).

by perfectdepth on Aug 13, 2007 10:56 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Props to the Fat Men
As I said, the results may not be sustainable over the long term, but the fact remains that this year they have gotten results.  A 5.04 RA isn't horrible either, nor is a 1.08 WHIP.  Give them some credit.

by taco pal on Aug 13, 2007 11:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Props to the Fat Men
no doubt, I don't mean to dismiss their contributions - or Romero's for that matter, who's been enormously helpful in the last few months despite seemingly walking every other guy he faces.

by perfectdepth on Aug 13, 2007 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Props to the Fat Men
And, I'm sorry, who was it that picked these two gentlemen up?

by das411 on Aug 13, 2007 11:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Props to the Fat Men
I'm not willing to go quite that far with the credit distribution...

by taco pal on Aug 13, 2007 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Props to the Fat Men
"who was it that picked these two gentlemen up?"

Uh...nobody can pick these dudes up. I think the Phils should sign Wells just so they can have their interior offensive line set for the rest of the year.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Aug 15, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

weird
mesa is in better shape, but alf appears to be the better dancer.

by gr on Aug 13, 2007 1:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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