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Meet Your Manager of the Year: Charlie Manuel

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All he has done is hold together a team that should be splintered and sinking. He has helped keep the Phillies in contention despite a season-long plague of injuries and slumps. The Phils didn't panic or give up or shrug at the unfairness of it all and take the easy way out. They have played every game hard, regardless of who was in the lineup and who wasn't. That may sound like a small compliment, but in professional sports it is not.

Manuel has done all this without a shred of personal support from the team's front office. He is operating on the final year of his contract, and general manager Pat Gillick has given no indication that he is even aware of his manager's role in the team's success. Of all the oversights committed by Gillick, this is the worst.

The man should get a new contract, and he should get it today. Call a news conference and do the right thing, Pat.

It is somewhat redundant to list what the Phillies have endured this season. Every day has been a new chapter, a new exercise in what-can-happen-next. They have used 12 starting pitchers and 25 pitchers overall.

Players have checked in and out of the disabled list as if it were just another road hotel on the schedule. Yoel Hernandez went on the DL last week almost before anyone knew he was back on the roster. He replaced Mike Zagurski, who also went on the DL before having time to unpack from the minors.

Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, Shane Victorino, Jon Lieber, Freddy Garcia, Tom Gordon, Brett Myers, Adam Eaton, Ryan Madson and on and on. The roster of those who haven't been on the disabled list this year is much shorter than the one of those who have. That's not a good year.


He makes a good argument.  Actually, a great one.  This team's had so many injuries, so many setbacks, that they are bound to lose this season.  They have no business being in the playoffs, let alone being in the NL Wildcard hunt.  And yet they remain 3 back in the standings, despite losing so many key cogs on both sides of the fence.  No other team has lost as many pitchers, and no other team has had to dig so deep for starting pitching.  Hell, the only starting pitcher that has been in the rotation all season long has been Jamie Moyer, and he officially sucks now.  This job ain't easy, folks.

Charlie's had very little help from the front office, and yet barely shows signs of frustration to the public or the media.  The man is a professional, no matter what many fans may believe.  Yes, he had a tiff with Howard Eskin, but that's Howard Eskin.  I believe that a manager gets one free blowup a season, and he used his on a worthy target.

So lay off Charlie ladies and gents.  He has a very tough job, and he's doing alright at it.  Managers tend to be overrated anyway in my mind, and he seems very adept at managing the locker room VERY WELL.  Players like him, and it looks like they are playing for him.  They just don't have the pitching.

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Re: Meet Your Manager of the Year: Charlie Manuel
I don't know, who knows how much of it has to do with Manuel?

Honestly, are they any better off now because of him? Are we patting him on the back for being 7 out in the NL East and 3 or 4 back in the wildcard? If all we do is finish out of the playoffs once again what he has he done other than maintain the status quo while?

You don't get rewarded for second place. He's not the manager of the year. If he gets this team to the postseason, ok. If not, not a chance. Should he get a new contract? Let's see. If all he does is finish 8-12 back in the division and out of the playoffs again I don't see how he deserves a new deal. Whatever the excuses he hasn't gotten the job done. Neither has Gillick for that matter. 10 games out of the division and missing the wildcard is not what these guys are here to do.

If injuries are the excuse this year, what was the excuse last year? The year before?

I think pacino has it right when he said "he's doing alright at it." I agree, "alright" hardly manager of the year worthy. Frankly, giving Cholly  the award(especially if they miss the playoffs) is an insult to Melvin, Black, Pinella or even Ned Yost.

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by JasonB on Aug 27, 2007 9:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Meet Your Manager of the Year: Charlie Manuel
If injuries are the excuse this year, what was the excuse last year?

Pitching.

The year before?

Pitching.

Oh...and next year's excuse: pitching.

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by RememberthePhitans on Aug 27, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Meet Your Manager of the Year: Charlie Manuel
Can't argue with that...

Point is that it's pretty provincial for any Philly writer to tip Cholly as manager of the year over at least 4-5 far more deserving candidates.

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by JasonB on Aug 27, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Meet Your Manager of the Year: Charlie Manuel
     If the Cubs make the playoffs or even just avoid a collapse between now and the end of the season, I think that Piniella gets the award. The Cubs looked absolutely horse---- early on and I think that the national press will give Lou the credit for that turnaround, and maybe he deserves it. (the credit; not necessarily the award) It looks like the local press is on Charlie's side, but it may take a wild card berth for him to register on the national press' radar.

     Too bad that both of these guys are in the same league. Charlie sure as hell deserves the nod. All this team has done all year is shrug off every setback and keep playing hard. The man must run one beautiful clubhouse.  

     

by Dalton Bouchee on Aug 27, 2007 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Meet Your Manager of the Year: Charlie Manuel
I guess the question is whether Charlie can be blamed at all for the performance of the pitching staff. I don't know that he does. Other than the many guys who have been seriously injured, no one's really performed worse than expected except for Adam Eaton.

The team as a whole has definitely performed better under Manuel than it did under Bowa. The overall talent level has been lower and the team's had to face a lot more unpredictable adversity, but it's continued to put up very similar W-L numbers, and may even exceed them this year. Manuel's in-game decision-making is questionable, but in-game decision-making is only so important a component of a manager's job.

by taco pal on Aug 28, 2007 12:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Meet Your Manager of the Year: Charlie Manuel
I pretty much agree with this. My one disappointment is that Cholly still makes some baffling moves, even with Jimy Williams metaphorically perched on his shoulder. But I think he's probably a little better than he was--look at the pinch-hitting results this year as opposed to the previous two--and in the case of the bullpen, he's been forced to choose from bad options all year long. Even there, he hasn't overcommitted to a lousy performer as he did with Cormier in '05 and Rhodes last season.

Were I a BBWAA voter, I don't think I'd have a decision yet on MoY or any other award. But Manuel deserves to be in the conversation.

by dajafi on Aug 28, 2007 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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