NLDS Game Two Thread, Brewers at Phillies
by WholeCamels
on Oct 2, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
Milwaukee Brewers @ Philadelphia Phillies
After a HUGE Game One victory, the Phillies take the field this evening trying to solve an even huger puzzle that's been baffling most of the National League this summer -- Brewers starter CC Sabathia.
Sabathia has been nothing short of brilliant since coming to Milwaukee from Cleveland in a June trade (11-2, 1.65 ERA). Tonight's start will be his fourth in a row on three games rest for a Brewers team that has been in "must-win" mode since new manager Dale Sveum took the helm. Fatigue struck Sabathia in last year's American League playoffs, with both New York and Boston hitting him pretty hard at times. Could the Phillies be the beneficiaries here as well?
Enigmatic righty Brett Myers goes for the Phillies. Which Brett will we get? Hopefully the long layoff since his last start has allowed him to recharge his batteries a bit and get his head straight, but his last two starts were just brutal. If Myers is on his game, we could really have a great pitching matchup tonight.
A win tonight gives the Phillies a commanding 2-0 lead heading to Milwaukee, where the Phillies will face Dave Bush and Jeff Suppan. A loss allows Milwaukee to swipe home-field advantage from the Phillies and forces the Phils to win both games in Milwaukee to avoid the prospect of facing Sabathia again in a Game Five finale.
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I am a gonna go out on a pretty huge limb here and say this: we will know after the first inning what kind of game this will be.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 5:02 PM EDT 0 recs
Haha. No kidding. I will not go out on limbs anymore…it’s just grounds for me falling out of trees.
by FuquaManuel on
Oct 2, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
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anyone watching the rays-sox game?
announcing on TBS for this game is just turrible.
by char6587 on Oct 2, 2008 5:08 PM EDT 0 recs
TBS announcers suck – and they showed me craig saeger during baseball season last night, he’s bad enough during the NBA season
by jemagee on
Oct 2, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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also, does anyone have any advice for the best way to deal with frank caliendo?
by char6587 on Oct 2, 2008 5:09 PM EDT 0 recs
Cutting out his tongue would work nicely, plus no murder charges
by jemagee on
Oct 2, 2008 7:08 PM EDT
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Ruiz is catching…which is unusual for Myers…he seems to pitch to Coste exclusively.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:08 PM EDT 0 recs
First fastball hit 93 according to the TBS gun. Good sign early.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:09 PM EDT 0 recs
Follows it up with a 4 pitch walk to Durham. Weird.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Braun doubles on a 1-2 pitch.
Oh shit Myers…don’t do this nonsense.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:13 PM EDT 0 recs
IBB to Fielder. Bases loaded, 1-out. Already a huge spot in this game.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:14 PM EDT 0 recs
1-0 Brewers.
It’s the bad Brett everybody. This game is gonna suck.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:16 PM EDT 0 recs
Huge double play to end the inning from Brett.
Okay, maybe it was just nerves. We will see next inning.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:17 PM EDT 0 recs
yikes
could have been a whole lot worse… maybe that settles him down? I can pretend right?
by heyelander on Oct 2, 2008 6:19 PM EDT 0 recs
With Sabathia on the hill, I fear the damage might have been done.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:21 PM EDT 0 recs
Why the hell doesn’t Cholly split Howard and Utley tonight? Sometimes I just don’t get this guy.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:22 PM EDT 0 recs
Victorino doubles. We need to bring him in here. Sabathia has the matchup advantage however, in that he gets to face 2 lefties in a row.
Victorino moves over to 3rd on passed ball. Now we MUST bring him home here.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Utley Ks.
That was big. All we needed was contact really.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Howard quickly down 0-2. We know what happens next.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:27 PM EDT 0 recs
That’s why you fucking split the lefties against one of the best lefties in baseball Cholly you moron.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:28 PM EDT 0 recs
Relax
It’s one inning. Your post count is rivaling Brett’s pitch count.
by dpb132 on
Oct 2, 2008 6:30 PM EDT
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sabathia is nowhere near the strike zone with a lot of those swinging ks.
too aggressive
by Bilzo on Oct 2, 2008 6:31 PM EDT 0 recs
I didn’t see the first, but from watching these first two hitters here, it seems like his stuff is okay—just needs to stay calm and focus.
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 6:34 PM EDT 0 recs
Yeah. His stuff is definitely good tonight. I don’t think his first inning issues were the same as his last 2 games. Seemed mostly like nerves to me.
by FuquaManuel on
Oct 2, 2008 6:35 PM EDT
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he got squoze a little on the walk to durham but nothing obnoxious.
He made one bad pitch to Braun.
by Bilzo on
Oct 2, 2008 6:36 PM EDT
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Wind a factor for the righties again tonight.
Burrell got a big piece of one and it fell way short.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:40 PM EDT 0 recs
hitting it off the end of his bat didn’t help either
by jemagee on
Oct 2, 2008 7:09 PM EDT
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I thought he made solid contact, but if you say so.
by FuquaManuel on
Oct 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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Burrell got a good swing on that, but my guess is that the ball isn’t carrying in the cold.
Gotta make him throw a lot of pitches. 17 in the first was an okay start. Of course it’s tough if he throws strikes.
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 6:40 PM EDT 0 recs
Werth with a nice double on a 1-2 pitch. Lefty killer.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Werth hit a rope—double into the gap.
That’s 4-5 hard-hit balls so far, a couple of which have fallen in. They can do this.
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 6:41 PM EDT 0 recs
Feliz. Double. Tie-game.
We can definitely do this.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:43 PM EDT 0 recs
Happy Pete!
Double just down the line—tie game!
Third double in the first seven hitters.
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 6:43 PM EDT 0 recs
Myers looks like he is gonna run up the 3b line on these hacks. lol.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:46 PM EDT 0 recs
Crowd roaring as Myers takes balls and fouls pitches off…
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 6:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Damn. Myers has had the best AB against Sabathia tonight!!
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:48 PM EDT 0 recs
Myers wasn’t working the count, he was working the crowd.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on
Oct 2, 2008 6:55 PM EDT
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Works the walk. OMG!!!!
Come on Jimmy. Let’s make this one count. Reward your pitcher.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:49 PM EDT 0 recs
Sabathia might be coming apart here. We have a chance to really do some damage.
Crowd is rocking, hanging on every pitch.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:52 PM EDT 0 recs
GRAND SLAM VICTORINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
5-1
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:53 PM EDT 0 recs
Sabathia is just not a good postseason pitcher I guess. Wowee.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 6:54 PM EDT 0 recs
Holy shit. What kind of pitch was that CC?
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Oct 2, 2008 6:55 PM EDT 0 recs
should have benched Utley and Howard.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Oct 2, 2008 6:55 PM EDT 0 recs
Gotta figure Sabathia's tired
This is his fifth start in 17 days.
In those first four starts he threw 99, 105, 107, and 122.
And he’s got 51 thru 2 today.
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 6:56 PM EDT 0 recs
right. I imagine people are going to jump on him tomorrow for not being a clutch post season pitcher, but I really don’t think thats it. you can’t expect anyone to keep pitching like an ace on such short rest so often
by char6587 on
Oct 2, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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That was like 4 extra base hits all with 2 strikes.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Oct 2, 2008 6:57 PM EDT 0 recs
I think he’s probably at a point where if two guys get on, he’s done.
Big strikeout there—slider.
by dajafi on
Oct 2, 2008 7:02 PM EDT
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Myers not locating very well here. Maybe he’s still amped up from his AB.
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 7:01 PM EDT 0 recs
HUGE inning there for Brett. Lets put Sabathia out of his misery here!
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 7:03 PM EDT 0 recs
myers got by there but his velocity seemed down and got away with a few.. anyone else see the speed gun readings- 88-90 dont know how big of a deal that is
by phils11 on Oct 2, 2008 7:05 PM EDT 0 recs
I saw one earlier at 92, and upthread FM reported a 93.
I’m not super-concerned. Myers doesn’t really blow guys away at this point—more like setting them up with it to put them away with offspeed stuff.
by dajafi on
Oct 2, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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Yeah…he tends to do that…he was clearly amped up in the 1st so has was digging deep and hitting 92-94. Since then it appears he has settled into his normal 88-91 groove.
by FuquaManuel on
Oct 2, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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remember brett’s first start back in the majors against the mets? brett got absolutely pooped on in the first inning, but then settled down and pitched like a stud for the rest of the season?
maybe thats how brett turns things around? comes back from a wicked slump with a terrible first inning, then snaps into it and cruises the rest of the year (post-season). maybe?
by char6587 on Oct 2, 2008 7:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Utley and Howard will most likely K in every at bat against Sabathia tonight, i’m ok with that right now :)
by jemagee on
Oct 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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Is it too much to hope they don’t face him again tonight?
by dajafi on
Oct 2, 2008 7:11 PM EDT
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Well Werth just got another double, so if the bottom part can do it again, maybe…
by jemagee on
Oct 2, 2008 7:12 PM EDT
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Sabathia is pretty ungodly against lefty hitters: .205 average allowed, WHIP under 1. Against righties, he’s a merely very good .247 OBA, 1.16 WHIP.
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 7:10 PM EDT 0 recs
Werth Doubles again.
All these extra base hits are great.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2008 7:12 PM EDT 0 recs
Werth
Feeling it against the lefty—second double tonight.
by dajafi on Oct 2, 2008 7:12 PM EDT 0 recs
BTW – the start times for tonights game 2’s are just stupid
by jemagee on Oct 2, 2008 7:13 PM EDT 0 recs
I was thinking that any young kid in Chicago was really screwed—game starts at 8:30 there. It’s bad enough when the NBA does that in postseason.
by dajafi on
Oct 2, 2008 7:14 PM EDT
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I’m just saying, what the hell kind of start time is 6 PM (local time)…I missed yesterdays game cause inventory takes too damn long, so today I just ducked out to do homework and then watch the game – but 6 pm start time just seems weird to me for you philly folks…i also worried about ‘sunset’ impact – would that be a factor
by jemagee on
Oct 2, 2008 7:16 PM EDT
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I’m deeply impressed that he’s gotten to a three-ball count.
by dajafi on
Oct 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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…though he waved at ball four to end it. Entirely my fault.
by dajafi on
Oct 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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Pedro Feliz is contractually prevented from taking too many walks in a season, he’s a little too close to the limit that voids his contract so he had to swing.
by jemagee on
Oct 2, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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BTW – the old folks IMing about theie retirement commercial idea is just as bad as Frank TV ads (but not as tiresome as the long dead ‘geico caveman’ ploy)
by jemagee on Oct 2, 2008 7:17 PM EDT 0 recs