World Series Game 2: Pre-game chat

by jonk on Oct 23, 2008 1:15 PM EDT

Well, we are sitting in a lot better position before game 2 than we were before game 1. But that goes without saying. Offense only showed up halfway, but it happens. Now we need Myers to do what Myers of the second half did: use his breaking stuff more. I am feeling pretty good about this game as well and hopefully we'll see Dobbs and Stairs tonight.

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let’s start our lineup roulette… the Fuquer can go alot of ways here… Shields doesn’t really have much of a split, but he’s a little more wild against Lefties… My guess

Rollins SS
Werth RF
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Burrell LF
Victorino CF
Stairs DH
Dobbs 3B
Ruiz C

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08

Gold... Pure Gold...

by foos05 on Oct 23, 2008 1:26 PM EDT 0 recs

That is a pretty nice lineup. Even with Jenkins as DH.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Oct 23, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

thought about it… thought process was Stairs is more familiar with the Rays than Jenkins (i don’t have numbers off hand, but i really don’t care)… Jenkins really doesn’t stir my Kool-Aid, and for some reason, I just think familarity will help… and even if Jenkins has better numbers, I’m sure the sample size is limited.

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08

Gold... Pure Gold...

by foos05 on Oct 23, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

Jenkins has never faced Shields before, and has no more than 6 AB against any Rays pitcher.

Stairs is 3 for 20 lifetime against Shields, with 1 HR. Not much luck against the bullpen: 0 for 2 vs. Howell, 1 for 8 vs. Wheeler with a HR, 0 for 4 vs. Balfour with 4 K’s, 0 for 3 vs. Miller, 2 for 5 vs. Bradford.

by taco pal on Oct 23, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

i’ll still take my chances with Stairs…

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08

Gold... Pure Gold...

by foos05 on Oct 23, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

Interesting list of Pitchers That Jenkins Owns:

Shane Reynolds
Javier Vazquez
Bronson Arroyo
Josh Fogg
Anthony Reyes
Ramon Ortiz
Ismael Valdez
Roy Oswalt
Woody Williams
Greg Maddux
Chan Ho Park
Kris Benson
Adam Eaton
Ryan Vogelsong
Brett Tomko
Jake Peavy
Chris Reitsma
Andy Benes
Kevin Millwood
Tim Redding

by taco pal on Oct 23, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

handful of current or former Phillies in there… nice

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08

Gold... Pure Gold...

by foos05 on Oct 24, 2008 8:00 AM EDT up 0 recs

I am digging that lineup.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 23, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

Additionally, I don’t have much need for my soul… so if God, the Devil, Xanu, Buddah, Cali, or any other deity out there needs one, I’m willing to exchange it for a Phils WS win…

"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08

Gold... Pure Gold...

by foos05 on Oct 23, 2008 1:28 PM EDT 0 recs

My lineup would be:

Rollins SS
Victorino CF
Utley 2B
Burrell LF
Howard 1B
Werth RF
Dobbs 3B
Stairs DH
Ruiz C

Alternating righties and lefties is a fairly big deal against this team in general, I think.

But the real key to the game will be whether Myers can control 1) himself and 2) his curve. If it’s yes on both, I think we’re in great shape.

by dajafi on Oct 23, 2008 4:20 PM EDT 0 recs

If Manuel didn’t split Howard and Utley against Kazmir, I don’t see him doing it against any of the righties. Of course, logic shows that it makes MORE sense to split them against the righties than the lefty starter, but Manuel barely gets past the first step in the logical process.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Oct 23, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

You’re almost certainly right. I was just putting out how I’d set the lineup for tonight.

That said, splitting the lefties is probably the thing I’m least sure about. Would dropping Howard a spot ease the pressure, or add more? I have no idea.

by dajafi on Oct 23, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

Would more pressure really matter right about now?

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Oct 23, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

According to ESPN, Dobbs will DH and Feliz will remain at third. The rest of the batting order and lineup will be the same as last night.

by Walcott on Oct 23, 2008 6:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Stupid, stupid, stupid. They are basically trying to concede an out with Feliz in there…especially vs. the righty. Why not stack the lineup with lefties early and then if you need a right handed bat or some defense later you bring Feliz in?

by FuquaManuel on Oct 23, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up 0 recs