World Series Game Two Recap: Lost on Base
When you win nine of the first eleven playoff games, it's inevitable you're going to catch a few breaks. And the Phillies did just that through two victorious rounds of the postseason and the Fall Classic opener Wednesday, from a Manny Ramirez double that would have been a long home run anywhere else in the park to a Cole Hamels pickoff that might have been called a balk. But if good play opens the door to good fortune, it would be tough to say the Phillies didn't earn their October luck.
Tonight, the formula got turned on its head. A first-inning error led to two Tampa Bay runs, and the team again was brutal with runners in scoring position--historically so, in fact. Phils hitters reached base to lead off an inning six times; only one of them scored. They stranded 11 men in all. Jimmy Rollins was 0 for 5, Chase Utley 0 for 4 with a walk, Pat Burrell 0 for 3 with a walk. What offense there was came from, of all people, Carlos Ruiz, who went 2 for 2 with two doubles and two walks, and Eric Bruntlett, whose 8th-inning pinch-homer put the Phils on the board.
And unlike last night, the pitching wasn't quite good enough to make up for it. Brett Myers wasn't awful by any stretch, but a leadoff walk to Akinori Iwamura and a Melvin Upton single that Jayson Werth misplayed put runners on second and third with no outs. Unlike the Phils, the Rays managed to score both men on groundouts. Werth was later doubled off first on an Utley flyout to snuff a potential rally.
Despite it all, the Phils might have won, or at least might still be playing, were it not for one of the worst umpiring performances I've ever seen in the World Series turned in by home plate ump Kerwin Danley. With one out and a man on first in the second inning, Myers seemed to have Rays outfielder Rocco Baldelli struck out on a full-count check-swing; Danley raised his hand to punch him out. But without his even asking for an appeal, first-base ump Fieldin Culbreth indicated no swing--and Baldelli took his base despite protests from Myers and Charlie Manuel. Jason Bartlett followed with a slow dribbler up the third base line that Pedro Feliz couldn't handle, and suddenly the bases were loaded. Iwamura skied out to shallow center, but Upton followed with a run-scoring single that made it 3-0. Tampa added another run in the fourth inning on a well-executed Bartlett squeeze bunt.
After Bruntlett's homer made it 4-1, Danley struck again in the 9th. After Ruiz doubled off tiring Rays reliever David Price to start the inning, a 1-1 pitch to Rollins clearly hit his jersey. But the pitch was merely ruled a ball, and Rollins later popped up a pitch out of the strike zone on a full count. Ruiz came around to score on a hard-hit ball from Werth that was ruled an error, closing the gap to 4-2, but Price fanned Utley and induced a groundout from Ryan Howard to end the game.
So the teams return to Philadelphia with the World Series tied at a game apiece. The good news from Game Two was Howard's apparent revival at the plate: he had two hits, both rockets, and seemed to have recovered his timing. Myers was pretty good, and with just 85 pitches through seven innings it wouldn't be a total shock to see him appear in one of the home games; in fact, if Saturday's game is rained out, Manuel would be well advised to bring back Cole Hamels on regular rest for Game Four and Myers for Game Five.
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As for things the Phils could control: too many men LOB. It’s difficult to outhit a team 9 to 7 and still come up 2 runs short — especially for a team with an XBH% like the Phils — but they somehow managed it tonight.
As for things beyond their control: Danley was just awful. My rule of thumb is that I try not to complain about umpires unless they actually impact the outcome of a game — and here, it’s indisputable that Danley did so. When Werth singled, I actually got more angry: it should have been 4-2 Rays, 1st and 2nd with no out; but instead, it was 4-2 Rays, man on 1st only and one out. Just to put that in perspective, had Danley given Rollins 1st base (as everyone admits he should have) and Werth had followed through with the single, the Phillies’ win expectancy (per the Win Expectancy Finder) would have risen from 7% (as it happened) to 23% (as it should have happened).
Oh well, I said before the game that we needed a split of Games 2 and 3, and I stand by that. Still, it’s tough to dominate Game 1 and only win 3-2, and then blow way too many chances to steal Game 2, and still feel good about yourself.
by PhillyFriar on Oct 24, 2008 12:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or if Utley had been struck out last night...
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/10/23/641310/i-hate-human-error
before he hit the 2 run homer.
I was in the stands, the only reason I could think of that Rollins didn’t try hard enough to get out of the way, maybe he moved into it? Those things are hard to see when you’re as far away as I was sitting…
by staplemaniac on Oct 24, 2008 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right… please don’t tell me you think GameDay or any Pitch Trax is precise… Also, please examine the second picture in your “post”… yes, the ball looks like it just caught the corner of the plate… too bad it’s already almost in the glove… fyi the location of the ball at the FRONT edge of home plate is what determines if it is a ball/strike… secondly, there’s a distinct difference between a ball/strike call and a hbp/not hbp call… also, if the case was that Rollins didn’t try to retreat from the ball, the umpire would need to state that that was specifically the reason that Rollins would not be awarded first base…
"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08
Gold... Pure Gold...
by foos05 on Oct 24, 2008 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GameDay and Pitch Trax suck
What you’re looking at in that link is PitchFX, and that is neither of those. Be forewarned: questioning pitchFX’s accuracy will bring internet hate raining down upon you from regions unknown not like any you have ever experienced.
by kericr on Oct 24, 2008 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*By GameDay, I mean the old pitch-tracking system prior to last year, which was for some reason called 'Game Day'
by kericr on Oct 24, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to FOX pitch trax – the phillies threw almost no strikes in game one and every rays pitch bit the corner….
by jemagee on Oct 24, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"According to FOX pitch trax"
You have completely given away all of your credibility as a knowledgeable fan.
by kericr on Oct 24, 2008 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose if my point was that I believed Fox Pitch Trax – then that would be true – but reading comprehension is as fundamental as reading itself.
Nice try though
by jemagee on Oct 24, 2008 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well let's forget that point then.
We both know Fox’s Pitch Trax is garbage. There’s no point in talking about it (especially no point in providing the always classic ‘it said everything was bad for us and good for our opponents’ argument).
My original point is that MLB’s current PitchFX system is vastly superior to both the original MLB Gameday system and Pitch Trax. The link on Lookout Landing above uses PitchFX.
by kericr on Oct 24, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry if I got off topic… my point was to argue that strikes vs. balls are always open to judgement… the two specific plays from last nights game (Baldelli striking out, because he was rung up, and then being awarded first on an appeal that was against the rules and Rollins being hit by a pitch are not open to judgement).
Danley called strike 3 on Baldelli… Once he did that, the atbat was over. After calling a swinging strike, he is not allowed to ask for help from the 1st base umpire… Baldelli instead was awarded 1st base. This was not a judgement call, it was procedural error.
Again Rollins HBP is either a yes or no… Clearly he was hit… that ended up changing the entire 9th inning…
I truly hope MLB takes the Ed Hochuli approach here and fines Danley and doesn’t allow him to umpire post season play anymore… He blows a basic procedural call and misses a clear HBP… You can’t have that in the WS
"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08
Gold... Pure Gold...
by foos05 on Oct 24, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure… Here’s the relevant passage from the official rulebook:
Rule 9.02© Comment: The manager or the catcher may request the plate umpire to ask his partner for help on a half swing when the plate umpire calls the pitch a ball, but not when the pitch is called a strike. The manager may not complain that the umpire made an improper call, but only that he did not ask his partner for help. Field umpires must be alerted to the request from the plate umpire and quickly respond. Managers may not protest the call of a ball or strike on the pretense they are asking for information about a half swing.
Appeals on a half swing may be made only on the call of ball and when asked to appeal, the home plate umpire must refer to a base umpire for his judgment on the half swing. Should the base umpire call the pitch a strike, the strike call shall prevail.
Emphasis mine. Now, that could be interpreted to mean that an ump can ask for help on any called ball, meaning he can ask for help not only on balls but also on swinging strikes.
Also, you could interpret the rule as not applying to umps at all. Meaning: “appeal” might only refer to the request of the team whom the original call went against. The rule might not limit the right of the ump to ask for help on his own on any pitch.
Still, even judgment calls can sometimes be so clear as to have a right and a wrong answer, and I think this was one of those cases. For some reason Fox didn’t show the side angle on that pitch, but even from a front-side view, it was pretty clear that Baldelli went around. Of course, that’s on both Danley and Fieldin Culbretch (the 1B ump last night).
by taco pal on Oct 24, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true… the problem i have here is that it specifically says that a manager or catcher has to request the help… it seems that Danley requested the help… i don’t know though, the play was a disaster
"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08
Gold... Pure Gold...
by foos05 on Oct 25, 2008 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn’t move into it. He flinched back, and the ball hit his jersey anyway.
by dajafi on Oct 24, 2008 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The video from the first mlb.com link posted below makes this crystal-clear. That pitch was nowhere near a strike.
by taco pal on Oct 24, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…and I imagine the win expectancy would have been even higher had Baldelli been properly struck out, which led to a run.
What gives me hope: we’re getting base runners, and we had, I believe 4 XBH (3/4 of which came from Ruiz and Bruntlett). When you get as many runners on base, with that much power, runs will come through. Obviously there are exceptions to that rule—for example, their ability to take advantage of platoon splits—but that wasn’t the issue in many cases. Also buoyed by how human Price and Wheeler both looked, and Myers should have had a quality start if not for shenanigans.
Still, just as a win is always beautiful in October, a loss is always ugly.
by bugbear on Oct 24, 2008 1:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He actually did have a quality start because one of the runs was unearned, but your point is well taken.
by taco pal on Oct 24, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Re: Our favorite ump Kerwin…
this didn’t take long…
"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08
Gold... Pure Gold...
by foos05 on Oct 24, 2008 8:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a couple stories from mlb.com too (referenced in the wiki article). do they accept that their umps make mistakes and have reporters actually call them out on it? i doubt we will be hearing from Misters Danley or Selig on the matter
by pjnc2003 on Oct 24, 2008 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really? didn’t see them yet… links?
"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08
Gold... Pure Gold...
by foos05 on Oct 24, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and i would hope that someone addresses this issue
"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08
Gold... Pure Gold...
by foos05 on Oct 24, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha, wikipedia got a hold of the updates on his page and cut them out – booo!
rollins play: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081024&content_id=3641444&vkey=ps2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
baldelli play: http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081023&content_id=3639414&vkey=ps2008news&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
both by the same author, Alyson Footer
by pjnc2003 on Oct 24, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They must think we’re stupid… Cached pages are our friends!!!
"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08
Gold... Pure Gold...
by foos05 on Oct 24, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least I was unshocked by last nights outcome?
by jemagee on Oct 24, 2008 9:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was frustrating what happened with Kerwin Danley last night, but the Phillies certainly didn’t do themselves any favors with their terrible situational hitting.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
WHY CAN'T US?
by WholeCamels on Oct 24, 2008 10:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate the expression, but the Phillies really deserved to lose…
http://www.thegoodphight.com
WHY CAN'T US?
by WholeCamels on Oct 24, 2008 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they sure didnt do much to help themselves win at the plate. the pitching was decent enough, but this team should be scoring 5 runs a game (regular season avg 799 runs over 162 games = 4.93 rpg)
by pjnc2003 on Oct 24, 2008 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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5 runs a game facing NL pitchers and playing half their games in an extreme hitters park. The scores should be little higher in Philadelphia, but the cold weather could lower scores. Not sure how wet the field and ball will be, so will leave that out of the equation. Should be closer to 9 runs a game for the three games in Philly, a little lower for Hamels start.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 24, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CBP isn’t an extreme hitter’s park. It played very neutral this year and never has been as extreme as its reputation.
by phatj on Oct 24, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shhh…..silly facts and numbers….CBP is a hitters park, we all know it, they keep saying it :)
If the phils ‘deserved’ to lose does it mean the rays ‘deserved’ to win?
by jemagee on Oct 24, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely true. They were both bad and unlucky.
by dajafi on Oct 24, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whole – totally agree with you that the Phils should blame themselves for the loss and not expect Danley to shoulder everything… it’s just unfortunate that in a game where the pitching staff was able to overcome the offense’s poor productiion and allow us to stay in the game, that the game was possibly decided by poor umpiring calls that had nothing to do with judgement… the Baldelli incident was procedural error, one of the first things umpires learn is procedure… and there’s no judgement on the HBP… i would like to hear from Danley an explanation for both instances, weather he just blew both calls, didn’t understand the rules that covered the Baldelli incident, or thought Rollins didn’t try to move… something… if his explanation involves either of the last two scenarios, he should be barred from umpiring any post season games…
the Rollins HBP was actually the more devistating call… totally destroyed the 9th inning…
unfortunate
"When you get that nice celebration coming into the dugout and you're getting your ass hammered by guys - there's no better feeling than to have that done." - Matt Stairs 10/13/08
Gold... Pure Gold...
by foos05 on Oct 24, 2008 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Instant replay
Without instant replay, determining whether or not a pitch hits a jersey can be a difficult call to make. Only the hitter, catcher and ump would know if there was a noise, and with all those cowbells, good luck hearing a small noise like that. I will give the ump a pass on the HBP. The check swing call was a little odd. I saw the 3-2 pitch as I was leaving the living room and assumed it was a strike out and was perplexed when I walked back into the room to see the bases loaded and only one out.
vr, Xei
by Xeifrank on Oct 24, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I am praying for 2 things:
1. The rain keeps up and the games are pushed back.
2. Cholly is smart enough to bring Brett Myers back on Tuesday.
Mother nature might throw a huge break our way, it is important we take full advantage.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 25, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How exactly would a rainout benefit us?
by taco pal on Oct 25, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless I am mistaken, I think it means that we can bring Cole AND Myers back to pitch at home. I guess it is not as huge a benefit as I thought, but it certainly gives us a better chance to win at least 2 of 3 at home than any other arrangement I would think.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 25, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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