World Series Game Thread, Game Five - Rays at Phillies
by WholeCamels on Oct 27, 2008 7:15 PM EDT
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It's been 28 years since the Phillies played a World Series clinching game. Of course, we all know what happened that glorious evening. And we hope for the same tonight.
They could hardly have asked for a better alignment of circumstances -- in their home park, with lefty ace Cole Hamels on the mound, on full rest. Of course it's baseball, and anything can happen, but you're a hardened pessimist if you're not at least cautiously optimistic right now...
One more game. 27 outs. Finish it.
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That was Oates … it was suppose to be Hall.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I have no diea…the young rumblers would have been better than otaes, or hall
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
one more reason getting the lead will be a big plus. If the Phils do it, weather reports indicate conditions will deteriorate, with it Rays morale (I hope)
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
clock management fortunately not a part of baseball
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Kaz is looking wild …
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
he’s still bitter it’s not Dodgers Sawx
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
RISP drought is over. drink your fill gents
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions
haha – i was just about to say that
by Putsy Caballero. on Oct 27, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Last night at the game there were like 5 Rays fans with cow bells and they were swinging them around … this old man probably in his 60s stands up turns around and holds up a mini Liberty Bell and starts swinging it … funniest thing I’ve seen in a while.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
“What Freedom Means to Me.” 5th graders may steal that vignette for social studies class.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Nope, about the benefits of sliding, enver read them, know they are out there – only a couple months old
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Dang. Pena is desperate. That was the equivalent of going on craigslist to look for a hooker during a dryspell.
I hope your joking.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
I like that they are taking the count deep … making Kaz throw some pitches.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
what do you figure their bullpen desperation plays will be to try to keep this close if need be?
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Really, I wouldn’t mind hearing that Joe Buck got busted for trying to buy kiddie porn. Then sent to prison with a bunch of real criminals.
I think he isn’t throwing that many—McCarver puts it on the weather, but for whatever reason, it’s been mostly fastballs that I’ve seen.
he’s on now, I think he’s doing more innings in the playoffs b/c he doesn’t have to do the TV as well.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I was about to come in here and post he was throwing a no hitter
Just to break it up but right as I was joining Aki got a hit.
Now I will post at least the shut out is still intact.
Not trolling …
As a matter of fact I believe it will stay intact.
Great Series as a Rays fan I am just grateful we made it this far. Enjoy your World Series championship Philly the long suffering fans have earned it. Burn a cop car for me.
Only if
A. The phillies are stupid
B. Some other team offers him an ungodly bad contract, then see ya later pat
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I think it’s much more likely than that
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I’m hoping that he’s starting at first and matt cain is the game 2 starter next season…
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Kazmir will have to call out stupid tomorrow.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
is a very good fielder and couldn’t get to it?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
mistimed his dive and had the ball go under his armpit
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Pena and Longoria with back to back hits…ok cole – stop this – we get it – stop messing with us -
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions
I REALLY don’t need a rain delay of any significance in this game
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions
There’s an uncomfortable progression on Kazmires pitch count by inning
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions
It doesn’t kill you – ever – you just spread it more and more
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Does anybody wonder if along the way anyone have ever tried to change Feliz’s approach at the plate?
I’m sure they did
It’s like talking to Jerry Falwell about homer sexuals
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s in his mid-30s. It ain’t happening.
I remember when I first noticed him, probably in ‘01 or ’02, wondering how a guy who slugged .500 couldn’t even OBP .300. Now we know.
Holy crap—Cole hit on hand. He looks nonchalant, but… yikes.
Does his trade value increase if the phillies win the world series?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I know the ratings sucked on saturday but should they have even started this game? How long is this storm supposed to last?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
See – this is why all baseball should be played in domes
:)
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t home from work yet – and didn’t see it mentioned – who threw out the first pitch?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions
Think I read this morning that it was going to be jim bunning
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Werth is also swinging at pitches he shouldn’t
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Would he be a phillie if he didn’t have a habit of chasing some kind of pitch that’s always out of the zone?:0
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Hope the long inning on the basepath (and hamels running on all these fouls) doesn’t impact next inning
That too, but he’s taken off on at least 5-6 fouls between rollins and werth
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
This has to be it for Kazmir, right? He’s over 80 already.
Would love to add a couple runs at the end of his night.
And that would feel good to me if the next guy probably wasn’t a better option than kazmir from the first inning tonight
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
29-19-9
but a nice high pitch for kazmir so far in the 4th – that’s nice
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
Is Tim McCarver questioning something Maddon did (or did not) do?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions
Since the phillies are up 3-1 and hence have scored more runs than the devil rays in 3 games – coul we stop talking about the performance in RISP as it doesn’t seem to have impacted the series all that negatively?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
this team could confound the boys at Prospectus for a solid decade.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
No, I think they’ll be fine at understanding it, this team befuddles the morons who can’t think past Batting average and how many times ryan howard strikes out
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
3-1 pitch – chase should already be on first with a run scored….
now full – come on chase
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
Damn it chase – if you wouldn’t swing at crap – the inning would be over
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions
are you shitting me.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
based on weather forecasts it wouldhave been played until thursday as i understand it?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
THis is pathetic – baseball should be embarassed
and chase utley i almost forgive you
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
Are you doubting the brilliance of Joe Maddon?
I’m just asking, because that decision seemed pretty fucking dumb to me.
I might be, but it’s wll known in many circles which no longer like me that i’m a friggin douche bag, so who knows.
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Did Joe Maddon forget that this is the national league?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
forget Philly there would be a riot in Tampa Bay if that happens
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Oh please…Tampa Fans are gentle giants – philadelphia fans are tools – haven’t you seen the articles all over the web?
Besides, Rays fans will vanish the moment this series ends
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes, I should revise that:
There is no God by Cole. Chase is his messenger.
That makes more sense anyways.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Or the Omaha Beach scene from Saving Private Ryan…but less blood.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
They left Kazmir in for howard?
Chris Myers – meterologist
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
Just arrived on the thread -- Utley's double play -- spectacular
It was not, perhaps, Rose catching the ball off of Boone’s glove, but that was one of the defensive plays of the year for the Phils.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Higher degree of difficulty for utley in my opinion, more ‘historic’ Rose/Boone but not exactly the grace and skill of what Utley did
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Kind of what I was thinking. The Rose play was more dramatic, but for degree of difficulty, the Utley play was probably higher.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Pat – if you were going to get of the schnide – now would be the time
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions
Kazmir blaming the mound…Hey Scott, Hamels has no problems
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions
I think the spirit of Dusty Baker has invaded Joe Maddon and Kazmir will pitch all 9 – no matter what
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions
175 pitches and/or bust!
Phillies sure are clogging up the bases aren’t they?
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he’ll get one more at bat in this game
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions
“FOX TRACK” should be implemented by aa comomittee of 3 who have no interest what so ever in baseball
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Pitch counts
The Phillies are making Kazmir throw tonight. Not many cheap at bats.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
Wet Werth?
shudder
http://www.thegoodphight.com
WHY CAN'T US?
by WholeCamels on Oct 27, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess that won't be Pat's last at bat...
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
It’s nice that Kazmir keeps helping out the phils when they swing at bal 4
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
The rain
And at the witching hour, the evil spirits will be defeated.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Geek call
< geek>I know what this is reminding me of — the film version of the battle at Helm’s Deep in the Two Towers.< /geek>
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddon is obviously Saruman
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I consider myself very geeky and i hate those movies
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
They have their moments. Like most adaptations, I preferred the books, but you have to accept the limitations of the form and adjust expectations sometimes.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I never read the books, i found them almost as boring and plodding of the movies, tolkien needed a real good editor
just like pirates of the carribean 2 – just saying
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
When will the reinforcements sent by Lady Galadriel arrive?
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Just my eyes. Those last two looked like strikes. I’m thrilled he got the calls, but we gotta be honest.
Burrell got a call in the first inning too
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I was listening to the first inning on the drive home – Miller indicated that Burrell got one, maybe two, calls in that plate appearance as well
Maybe the ump wnats him to go out in style?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I thought Pats wife had that firmly under control?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
in-game management questionable on both sides.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
No fair – i question charlie every time he pulls burrell BEFORE the bottom of the 9th inning starts
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
So the NFL is scared of the world series on sunday night but not monday night?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions
Does anyone out there have this MLB app for the iphone?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions
A WHIP of 2.5 in 4 + innings and only two runs?
That’s just funky
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions
Posting for godot?
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Man, that balfour fella has really changed since six feet under
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions
Victorino is pissing me off
Except for the two-run single, and the grand slam in the NLCS, and…
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
How come the weather doesn’t affect balls hit by the phillies in the air?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions
That will happen shortly after Ryan Howard stops swinging at balls at his ankles
Holy crap ruiz put wood on that
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Phils as "Major League"
Howard is obviously the voodoo guy that can’t hit curves; victorino is Willie Mays hayes, etc.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
In theory – yes – in practice all you have to do is throw crap out of the strike zone and he’ll swing and most likely miss
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, FOX just HAS to find ways to say bad things aobut the phillies?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions
They are not going to make this enjoyable.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i guess not because of the rain… isn’t it designed to protect the runners just as much as the rays, though?
Well it’s not like the umps haven’t already sucked
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Like a ‘gimme’ in golf? Maybe if rollins hadn’t mufffed the pop up the ump would have called it?
Not my theory – FOX’s theory
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it me or does Joe Maddon look like he should be on sesame street?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
I’m quite happy that Cole Hamles is pitching tonight
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions
NWS radar shows this storm just exploding over Philadelphia.
http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=DIX&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
Does the average person really need a touch screen computer?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions
While it may not be as well known, it seems to me that the Umpire CBA with MLB is pretty fracking bad as well.
No back to back world series? Are you kidding me?
The best umps should do the most important series.
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions
I wonder if the umps are ashamed of themselves…seriously, i wonder if a guy just says ‘nah, i’m not good enough’ to do the world series
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
They’re basically trying to do maintenance on the field between every half-inning. Like a rain delay, except it’s not.
So did i miss something? They came ack from commercial – did a lot of talking – nothing happened on the field – then they went to commercial again?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
A
Not only is this asinine – the wait on hamels is just unjust
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
what is asinine? playing the game in the conditions or trying to improve the condition of the field?
I think they were ready but FOX demanded a second commercial break
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
He is waiting until it’s a tie game so he can TRULY make history
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Bud Selig would be the first one to push to continue the game.
They keep running a clip of him being interviewed on XM175 in which he says something about “the facts do not support changing the times when the games are aired…the networks have to air the games when they make financial sense.”
So you now know without a doubt what dictates these things.
Yes Bud, but NO ONE CARES ABOUT THE PREGAME – make the first pitch at 8:02
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Fox is just pandering to the Florida voters now.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
IN an Obama administration, this unfettered corporate greed will be a thing of the past, and the rain will fall back up into the sky.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I must admit – i admire those fans – seriously – i don’t think I could sit in that rain
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
Crap – I was 16 seconds behind on the DVR i had no idea why you folks were saying drat or crap
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions
I’d like to see this kind of PHiladelphia weather finally work to our advantage
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
See….the weather is worse for the rays than the phillies cause the rays steal a lot more than the phillies…who have no speed
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions
I’m confused, I thought you couldn’t steal in this weather?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions
Thank you for clarification
Rays bullpen playing such good attention that they don’t even know the count
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
In a sport with bud selig as the commissioner, I don’t think anything is ridiculous any more, it just is
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions
FUCK
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
now they CAN, if they delayed it before it was tied they were risking huge media backlash.
aarrrrrrgh
If the rays were leading there would be no backlash outside philadlephia
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, someone at fox tell Tim McCarver to stop using the word hydroplaning
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions
“I do not think it means, what you think it means”
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Seroiusly, Why does it seem like the weather is ONLY hindering the phillies?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions
I think they really have to make the effort to finish the inning once they strrted it.
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Redemption time for Jimmy? Horrible game in the field be nice to get a knock of some sort
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions
I have a serious quesiton – with all this crap going on and delays – should they pull cole?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions
Yes, it’s pretty clear that no matter what pitcher we put in there right now, they are gonna be marginally effective, why risk Cole getting hurt?
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Joe Buck replaces Chris Wheeler on Philllies broadcasts
You have a choice, does that make you happy or sad?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Say it bob – you piece of shit – now that the rays have finally tied it up we want to delay the game so we can have more games
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
I hope bud selig dies in a fiery fucking plane crash where he collides with the plane carrying buck and mccarver and troy aikman and all the umps
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
Is it rainning any harder than it was earlier?
SHUT UP BUCK AND MCCARVER YOU DOUCHE BAGS
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
If it starts from the bottom of the 6th bring in madson
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You think it might be time to start considering chopping 10 games off of the regular season and moving the start of the playoffs up 2 weeks?
Stupid rule change
they changed this rule KNOWING it would fuck the phillies in 2008
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions
What a crock. No way this game finishes tonight, they cant continue the game at midnight+, ratings down the drain.
Most people would save their ticket stubs from a sries ending game?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
same tickets … had it happen last year … it ended up being a double header we came in watched the game and then get kicked out for the fans for the real game.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
Damn, that’s rough for any idiot who somehow lost it.
by Have a Seat on Oct 27, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
e-tix are great
presumably if you have the e-ticket you can just print out a new one if you want. But if you bought a hard ticket you’d better have held on to it.
At least now i can watch chcuck and see how bad heroes is getting
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions
Would they go play Games 6 and 7 (if necessary) in Tampa, and return to Philly over the weekend to resume Game 5 (if necessary) over the weekend?
http://www.thegoodphight.com
WHY CAN'T US?
so close
It’s hard to know what would have happened. And maybe it would have sort of sucked to see it end that way.
But damn. Just, damn.
This game should have been dleayed innings ago – i have a hard time believing it SUDDENLY got unplayable coincidentally when they tied up the fracking game…
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
No question about it, the umpires were scared to death about delaying it with a 1 run world series elimination game.
No doubt about it – the umps didn’t make the decision – that douche bag car salesman did
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
BP made a good point. The safe thing to do would have been to call it after the end of the 4th, due to the forecast.
that’s why selig should have called it then….it wouldn’t have been official and you would have avoided the phils leading in a regulation game decision
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
it wouldnt have mattered then. unofficial game before the 4th.
this way, at least we get our 6 innings of Cole in and they mean something
sure, from the phils POV….but I was referring to MLB’s POV.
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
All day i was unemotional about it, my sister called and I wasn’t all that psyched, i was zen, i figured cole was pitching….
now i’m just more angry than i’ve ever been – i want to yell at BS on PP and I can’t – jesus christmas what do i do with this anger?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
In zen, one must let go of attachment. You were obviously not zen, grasshopper.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I had no emotion heading into the game – i was enjoying the game but wasn’t too happy or mad at any one event until i saw MLB screw over the phils yet again
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Another reason why they should play afternoon WS games. Had this thing been scheduled or moved up to 3 p.m. this could have been done.
Even if you got afternoon world series games, they would be on the weekends, and thus had no impact on tonight (but would have made saturday easier)
The only solution really is that all teams build domes of course
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
well, the other plus is that if the weather in the afternoon is bad, you have a chance to get the game in later and keep rotations set.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Ugh.
I just feel violated…but I can’t say deep down I thought this was gonna be easy…without some wild turn of events like this.
Oh just shut up – really – you saw this coming?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously – just stop it already – not tonight – not right now -
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I will. Can’t help how I feel though. This has public relations nightmare written all over it.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
MLB hates us and will never end the game and thus, no WS winner.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
When was the last time MLB didn’t screw the pooch on a difficult decision?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
These frustrations will make the ultimate victory for the Phils that much more sweet.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
I hope so! Wishing on my lucky stars that the opposite is not true.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Do either of you guys know the rules regarding delays for the WS?
They have to play this for 9 full innings, right?
Wait, misunderstood the question. Yes. THey will resume from the bottom of the 6th whenever possible. Be it tonight or 3 days from now.
by Have a Seat on Oct 27, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
One team was in the lead after 5 innings – it was just the wrong one
If the rays hadn’t scored i bet you money this game would still be going on
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I think calling it was the right decision; it was just shitty timing.
I also believe that they’d still be playing had Upton not scored.
Upton scoring allowed Selig to take the chickenshit way out.
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
ABSOLUTELY
i told me wife that no umpire in the US is calling that game while the Phils are ahead
"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."
no, they don’t. they can’t end the game as a tie, though. so, theoretically, if they un-suspend the game, stairs or someone hits a homerun, then it starts raining again, that could be game.
but the exception is, if the away team goes ahead before the home team gets 3 outs to try and respond, then the game is still suspended.
A rule that was instituted in 2007 – just for such a phils screwing event
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Pre 2007 – if this game was called – it would go to the last completed inning – the 5th inning – the phillis would be the winners….2007 season they instituted this suspended rule thing.
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
also,
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USPA1276?from=36hr_topnav_undeclared
if we don’t get this in by 12, they arent getting it in.
awesome – better than shadowkat deserves a sacrafice – must give to all possible web sites :)
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I want it on a t-shirt
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
feel free to reproduce & distribute widely!
by Putsy Caballero. on Oct 27, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
That’s what she…oh screw it…
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i did and i wish i hadnt....
How long can the rain delay last… i should go to bed if they’re not going to play
But i will not miss this….
"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."
My seven year old is running out of gas fast...
damn rain might deprive him of his chance to see a modern equivalent of the Willie Wilson K. That’s what sucks the most about this.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions
I think the odds of this game being restrated tonight are very slim, get your sleep folks.
I need SOMETHING, god damn it, halloween milky ways just aren’t doing it and i don’t drink :(
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions
it’s never to late to start
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
No see, it was the right time to STOP
Trust me
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s always porn
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No – there’s not – not for me – never understood porn
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Attractive, nude people having sex. Not much else too it.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
On BSG – they jsut said Larry Shenk is reporting the game as suspended.
I don’t know who Larry Shenk is
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions
senior advisor; head of Phillies alumni also
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
XM on-field guy said they just announced over the press box that the game is suspended. No word on when it will be resumed.
would have to be tomorrow
"Watching Big Ben kiss the canvas nine times in Philly was like watching a guy fighting a school of sharks -- with everyone rooting for the sharks."
I miss Karn
The last time something this important to me was delayed in such a manner I ended up with eight years of George W. Bush
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions
game off
Just saw it on the local news here.
Unprecedented. I don’t really blame anyone as far as the decisions tonight… but this is what happens when you let television dictate the conditions of the entire postseason.
Oh I blame the timing…i’m sorry – the weather conditions didn’t change between the start of the top of the sixth and the end of the top of the sixth – the only thing that changed was the score – if the rays didn’t score in the 6th the game continues – and that’s BULL SHIT
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Even 5 games off of the regular season – 1 week – and they probably never run into a situation like this.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 27, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
While flashing over the look at the lying car sales man on ESPN News I saw a piece that the rockies would like to trade matt holliday before the start of next season – i say obtain him
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions
From Jayson Stark:
"And now for yet another complication: The Rays checked out of their hotel in center-city Philadelphia, in anticipation of flying home after the game — and they can’t get back in, because the hotel is sold out.
They’re scrambling to find rooms — somewhere — as we speak."
Just thought that was an interesting tidbit.
Strawberry Mansion probably has a few spots
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s october in Philadlephia, are there really hotel issues?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
There’s some convention, and I think also family weekends for colleges
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Make em sleep in their plane – it’s their own damn fault
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I’d enjoy seeing him boringly boiled in hot oil
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Bud Selig doesn’t know what comical means – someone explained it to him – he still doesn’t understand it
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Selig kind of rhetorically hydroplaned there.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Selig just said a rain delay could have lasted 3 days if the Phils were leading. No way would the game have been called
I’m sorry, but that doesn’t exactly make his case – unless the case he’s making is that we wanted to give the Rays every chance to tie the game and then end up screwing the phillies
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
How does this play out. Let’s assume no game tomorrow, they play Wed. Cole threw 75 pitches. Can he come back Wed? Should he?
On the plus side Madson recharges.
Cole does not come back out.
"I need to do a better job of putting players in the right position to perennially come up short of expectations"
If they don’t pitch until Wednesday can he do one inning as his ‘throw day’ – how do those things work?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
but if 6&7 get pushed back, we could use him another night?
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Kick Bud Selig in the ass line starts behind me
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Q: Why not call the game the inning earlier?
A: “The groundskeepers did a great job, told us the field is OK repeatedly. Then they told us after the 6th that conditions had deteriorated, so that was it.”
Bud knows they didn’t finish the 6th right?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Philly.com weather report
AccuWeather.com meteorologist Carl Erickson, reporting from State College , said there’s a developing storm moving northward that will continue to intensify tonight and into the day tomorrow.
"We’ll get a pretty good soaking tonight," Erickson said.
Rain will begin to taper off in the mid-afternoon Tuesday, but it won’t be until 5 to 7 p.m. tomorrow that things will completely dry out, he said.
Temperatures will hover in the upper 30s to 40s during the day Tuesday. Temps will be in the upper 30s Tuesday night.
So tomorrow night?
Q: Would the remainder of the game be moved to Tampa?
A: No, no. We’ll celebrate Thanksgiving in Philly if necessary.
Anyone ever read the book interface? BUd really needs one of those control chips…
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I tuned in late to t his Selig-palooza… did anyone ask him if he thought about moving the start time up?
Bud Selig hhas issues when he delivers prepared statements – when he’s having to answer off the cuff – it’s bound to be comical
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
He keep saying that the forecasts were wrong. He says he never had any indication the rain would get as bad as it was. Groundskeeper told him after every inning that the field would be fine. But he says it deteriorated very quickly.
even though he uses 3 different forecasting systems
by Alex Falzone on Oct 27, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions
local weatherfolks in Philadelphia were calling this in the 5 p.m. hour—ok to start, but driving rain by 10 p.m. I think that’s what I just saw.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Q: Is the way the game was called a rule or just your judgement.
Selig: Um…well…um…uhh…I just did not want the World Series to end this way.
At least my kid might get to see the end of the game, and possibly a win
It is an ill wind that does not blow someone some good.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 27, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions
Selig's PC in a nutshell
- Who knows when the game will resume, but it will be in Philly and will be at night.
- Everything is the weather forecasters’ fault.
- He never would have allowed the game to end before 9 innings
Bud Selig called a tie in a baseball game – is anyone surprised by anything he over sees any more?
I mean yes it’s popular but is any league run by a bigger collection of ass turds than MLB?
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
im not exactly what you guys would have preferred, besides just postponing the game from the outset?
Suspend it earlier, don’t wait for the rays to tie the game – don’t make this utter bullshit – don’t MAKE UP RULES AS YOU GO ALONG – which is basically what selig admitted doing…if the rays HADNT scored in the top of the 6th the game would have kept going and everyone know it…
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
don’t know why he’s even taking questions…just make a statement and say goodnight. No upside to q&a
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 27, 2008 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions
screw it
water under the bridge, let’s get the bats out whenever and kick their asses. On to game 5.1.
We had to pull Cole Hamles early – kazmir was total shit
And the rays can now throw price at us.
Fun
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions
Charlie Manuel refused to address the media?
I like him more now than ever before.
by jemagee on Oct 27, 2008 11:55 PM EDT reply actions
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