Sweep the Leg, Jamie!: NLDS Game Three, Phillies at Brewers
Philadelphia Phillies @ Milwaukee Brewers
Two nights after the Phillies improbable defeat of 2007 Cy Young Award winner and Hottest Pitcher on the Planet CC Sabathia, the Phillies head to Milwaukee to attempt to complete a three game sweep of the Brewers and set a date with either the Dodgers (likely) or the Cubs (wha' happen'?) in the NLCS.
Jamie Moyer, moundsman during the Phillies division clinchers in 2007 and 2008, goes for the Phillies against righty Dave Bush. In his previous start in Philadelphia, Bush was touched for three runs over six innings. Hopefully the Phillies can do better than that tonight.
Fun fact: Despite winning both games, the Phillies have only scored runs in two innings in this series: a three run third on Wednesday, and a five run second on Thursday.
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Put ’em in a body bag, yeahhh!!!!!
Steve Jeltz
.210/.308/.268
"If you condensed everything I ever did in my career into one game, it looks decent"
by Steve Jeltz on
Oct 4, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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Listen to the game
Can anyone tell me where I might be able to listen to the game online?
by frisco3 on
Oct 4, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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Core Hart ‘showing a lot of patience’ – because he doesn’t swing at the first pitch?
Come on Moyer – get it together
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 7:03 PM EDT
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You don't understand.
That is a lot of patience for Corey Hart. :)
I have an unreasonable dislike of Bill Hall.
by Ted Simmons Speed Camp on
Oct 5, 2008 9:10 AM EDT
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WERTH
great play getting corey hart off of first base. inning changing and hopefully, game changing
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 7:46 PM EDT
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Moyer can’t get that low out of the zone pitch – but busch can?
Excellent
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 7:53 PM EDT
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Bad luck for the Phils in that fourth inning—Howard’s rocket just foul, Burrell and Victorino hit line drives right at guys.
They can get Dave Bush. Gramps just has to keep ’em close.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:03 PM EDT
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I wasn’t even able to finish my yelling at Feliz for first-pitch swinging before the Brewers bungled that into a hit…
No DP plz
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:08 PM EDT
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Another line drive out.
Baseball gods haven’t been with us tonight.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:09 PM EDT
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stairs in - moyer out
who’s coming in for moyer?
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 8:11 PM EDT
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Him and Pat – really coming through this year
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:24 PM EDT
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Some risk now that the competitive portion of this game is about to end.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:21 PM EDT
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Speaking of Fatty. I wonder if his knees will hold up as long as his old mans. My god he is Fat, in fact he makes jelltyroll Blanton look downright slim. OK that’s a stretch.
by Steve-O- on
Oct 4, 2008 8:31 PM EDT
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They might trade him this winter. Gotta figure he’ll DH eventually.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:32 PM EDT
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Are we talking about Ryan Howard or Prince Fielder?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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I guess if I was to say either it’d liven things up a bit .
by Steve-O- on
Oct 4, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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and a K to end the inning, the bats have to show up in the same inning
by pjnc2003 on
Oct 4, 2008 8:30 PM EDT
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Let’s see if he makes it through the 6th first ;)
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:33 PM EDT
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Hart “didn’t make a football move” while he had possession…
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Condrey threw 26 pitches, but what the HELL happened to patient phillies…busch is averaging 12 pitches per inning…god damn
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:34 PM EDT
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Utley comes up small there.
It’s surprising how a guy who’s such a good hitter overall is so consistently disappointing with guys on third, less than two outs.
Stetter coming in for Howard.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:39 PM EDT
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Whatever happened to tie goes to the runner?
At least the run got home – but holy gards
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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Okay, there’s one. Howard RBI groundout—more than I expected once he got to two strikes, frankly.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:43 PM EDT
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Fuqua – you shouldn’t hack peoples accounts – it’s not nice
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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2 runs seems so much more surmountable than 3…
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 8:44 PM EDT
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Utley/Howard/Burrell must perform better, tonight, and over all, at the plate
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:45 PM EDT
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what happened to the september, lefty-killing version of ryno? i want him back
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 8:46 PM EDT
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Seriously, even though they got the run home, that was just pathetic
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:48 PM EDT
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Burrell
The usual waving swing ground out. Methinks he’s about punched his ticket outta town. Too bad I like the guy too.
by Steve-O- on
Oct 4, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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Probably you’re right.
I wonder what kind of market there will be for him, though. The thing about free agents-to-be who make the playoffs is that 30 GMs get to watch them… Carlos Beltran probably owes half that phat contract he got from the Mets to what he did with the Astros in ’04.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:50 PM EDT
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Boy was Carlos in a zone thatnI haven’t seen since. He was fun to watch but that was then. Kinda like the Angels with Matthews contract.
by Steve-O- on
Oct 4, 2008 8:53 PM EDT
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Why do people insist to over react to small sample size playoff performances?
Utley and Howard have been garbage at the plate as well, for most of the series, i guess they should be shipped out of town as well
CC cost himself some money on Thursday too didn’t he?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:51 PM EDT
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Well let’s hope the trend from the first two games doesn’t hold any more – or I’ll just watch Primeval
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:49 PM EDT
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I don’t have my usual bad feeling about Durbin here, for some reason.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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Cause you’ve realized whatever he does tonight won’t matter?:)
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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The phillies should pick a number and a number of years for burrell and take it or leave it, but they shouldn’t change their minds because of a small sample size of a playoff series JFC alreadyh.
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:52 PM EDT
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What kind of number/years do you have in mind?
by Steve-O- on
Oct 4, 2008 8:55 PM EDT
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no more than 2 years, the money is irrelevant to me, it’s the years, i know the phillies have a budget and all that silliness…but if you look at Pat Burells recent CAREER and not just 3 fracking games, he’s a pretty valuable and hard to replace bat, and there’s no one in the minors or on the roster who replaces that bat…and the phils aren’t paying for manny.
Plus, I think exploring moving Howard for a front line pitcher and putting Burrell at first is NOT a bad idea.
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:56 PM EDT
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Money shouldn’t be an issue. They drew 3.4 million fans and will have some postseason revenue.
I think you’re actually right—I’d offer 2/28 and maybe go up to 2/30. But I bet someone will offer three, maybe even four years. At that point, you take the picks and see what else might be out there.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
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I don’t disagree, but maybe offer team options with a ‘polite’ buy out number for 3rd year…remember, Pat has ‘refused’ to leave Philadelphia in the past, maybe he still wants to stay.
I keep hearing talk about how Manny is a ‘free agent’ this off season but weren’t there a couple team options in his contract? Were those options voided when he was traded?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:02 PM EDT
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For those of the inclination, pretty good SEC game on ESPN right now…Vandy trying to prove themslves
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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Who is the Brewers game 4 starter scheduled to be? I really don’t like Joe Blanton
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:54 PM EDT
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Well, I feel slightly better about Blanton now…
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 8:59 PM EDT
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Double switch coming—Jenkins to RF, one of the lefties (I imagine Eyre) coming in. Presumably Werth goes to left, Burrell’s out of the game.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:01 PM EDT
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Unless Burrell aggravated his back, I’d still rather have him in the game batting than having Jenkins batting later…and if the phils are going to win, that spot will come up again…
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:03 PM EDT
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Besides, seriously, do the Phillies want Scott Eyre to get more than one batter out tonight?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:05 PM EDT
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I doubt it. So with that in mind, you’re right—no need for the double switch.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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I never see a need for pulling Pat Burrell in a close game where he’s going to come to the plate again…this one is just the most heinous violation of the stupid ‘late inning substitution’ at one of the most important moments of the game.
I really hope the game doesn’t come down to the success of the 5th spot in the phils batting order.
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:08 PM EDT
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depending on what happens in the top of tihs inning, I think they could definitely leave eyre in for the 7th
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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Why, the next two scheduled brewers hitters are right handed.
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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bases strand them loaded again!!!
i feel a momentum shift
by pjnc2003 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:06 PM EDT
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Might have been an earthquake – where do you live?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:07 PM EDT
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Bud Selig sighting…
Now come on—you have to beat them to send that miserable f*cking prick home unhappy.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:09 PM EDT
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He always looks unhappy to me anyway.
Charlie Villanueva taking a break from training camp to pitch?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:10 PM EDT
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cubs
I could easily see a cubs rout tonight, by they way. studly harden vs. wildly inconsistent kuroda + angry aramis ramirez
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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The only team I expect to get swept is the Angels, who should be ashamed of themslves
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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I’ve only seen Kuroda against the Phillies. He filleted us in that first game, and was decent in the second one.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:12 PM EDT
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look at his numbers this year though. I’m not sure i’ve seen another pitcher where, depending on the game I saw, I thought he was a top-10 NL pitcher, or looking for a shot in AAA
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:15 PM EDT
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No, I believe you. I remember looking at his numbers after he dominated the Phillies and thinking, “how the hell did the guy with these numbers do that?”
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
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You forget the ‘first time facing the phillies’ dominance that all pitchers seem to have in the regular season.
I’d like to thank the bottom 3 ‘batters’ for sucking in the top of the 7th
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:17 PM EDT
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Eyre
He is still in. So that I guess justifies the double shift… it’s just probably not good strategy. I guess Manuel wants to stay away from Madson until the 8th.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
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For a man obsessed with the lefty righty thing this seems odd, when did the red sox and angels bring their closers in last night again?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:23 PM EDT
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Yeah, that was interesting. The way it worked out kind of confirmed my previous thought that Papelbon > SaveRecordBoy.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:25 PM EDT
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Charlie might have learned something watching that game if he was paying attention about the idiocy of overly defined roles and ‘sticking to them’
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
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I’m hoping Save Record Boy imitates the career of Billy Wagner – it would be fun
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:29 PM EDT
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i hope you aren’t suggesting that the phillies sign him
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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No, I’m suggesting that the mets grossly over pay for him and then hopefully he stinks :)
Damn you ed wade
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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Or is Charlie just conceding the game?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:30 PM EDT
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whats with TBS not showing who is in the bullpen/who is coming in or anything?
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:31 PM EDT
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They have bad coverage, it’s like once they lost the braves they forgot how to cover baseball
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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I think they’re too busy bringing each other to climax over Craig Counsell.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:32 PM EDT
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At least Saegers ugly jacket isn’t at this game.
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:34 PM EDT
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I’ve really got some questions about how this game has been managed
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
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and the double switch which i felt was unnecessary and unwarranted…unless charlie is managing in the ‘small sample size’ school of managing
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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Pull Werth…i’d rather keep Burrell in the game than Werth.
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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why? werth is better runner, fielder, and these days, hitter.
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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See, small sample size managing…it’s a brilliant way to go.
Howard has sucked something fierce this series, why not pull him for Coste?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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My theory is that Manuel just wasn’t very interested tonight. Maybe he figured Moyer had it.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:36 PM EDT
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then why bother bringing madson in at all – bring in someone unimportant and save him for tomorrow when you want to reload.
It’s games like this where Charlie Manuel loses the good will he got in game 2 and goes back to being the guy i wanted fired 2 years ago
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
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It’s amazing how much more annoying FrankTV Guy is when the Phils are losing one of these games. The difference maybe could be captured by “I’d like to see him die” on the one hand, and “I’d actually like to kill him myself” on the other.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:37 PM EDT
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Actually it’s the proof of the standard sports corrolary about how much better the world looks when your team is winning.
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:38 PM EDT
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I have to disagree. that guy annoys the shit out of me at all times.
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
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Well yeah, he annoys dajafi as well if you read the whole post, but the annoying is ‘lessened’ by the positive feelings towards a win :)
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:40 PM EDT
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right, I’m just saying on the annoying scale, he has been at 10 this whole week.
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:41 PM EDT
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He’s been at 10 since i first heard of his existence
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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It’s not that he gets more annoying, it’s that I have less tolerance for his annoyingness.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:42 PM EDT
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i see. after the divisionals though, he’s gone, right?
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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TBS has one of the champonship series doesn’t it?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:44 PM EDT
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ALCS. So char is right—no more FrankTV for us after this round.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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You don’t live with a red sox fan you lucky lucky man
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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True. But the Angels are actually my wife’s favorite team. So if they come back…
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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If any team ‘owns’ another in the playoffs, it’s the red sox over the Angels. Plus if Francona is to be believed, Beckett is healthy, I doubt you have much to worry about.
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:47 PM EDT
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That was a pitch the ump called a strike earlier tonight, against Burrell, at least twice.
Werth with a double.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:45 PM EDT
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yeah I was thinking the same thing. second werth-ish gift tonight
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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The ump has been inconsistent low tonight
I’m still upset with chase for his first at bat of the night
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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Seriously Chase, if a right handed French Canadian gets you out you should be ashamed
(more ashamed than you should be of your ‘skin care’ commercials)
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:49 PM EDT
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Meanwhile, this is a 4-2 game that’s more than three hours old, and we’re only midway through the 8th. That’s kinda vile.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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Lots and lots of wasted opportunities tonight (continuation from last game) with less timely hitting.
I didn’t really expect them to sweep, but it’d have been nice
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 9:53 PM EDT
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were they just playing hava nagila (sp?) during chase’s at-bat?
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 9:51 PM EDT
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I really hope shane isn’t up there trying to hit a home run – just get a hit…
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:04 PM EDT
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- on the off season priorities is find a 3rd baseman WORTHY of this infield
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
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Ugh, Feliz… not hard to see that coming…
I actually started typing this before he even hit it.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 10:06 PM EDT
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Sveum, you got two outs – shut up
BTW – it didn’t look like Feliz ran that out very well.
Dobbs HAD to go to third, why is there a question?
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:07 PM EDT
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The baseball rulebook has some REAL stupid rules
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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It doesn’t make a difference cause Ruiz needs to go
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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On the plus side, one less playoff RBI for David Abraham Feliz
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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No RBI on the DP anyway. So they’ll just have to beat him senseless in the clubhouse.
by dajafi on
Oct 4, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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If the phillies weren’t in contention this year – is there a chance marson would have replaced ruiz already?
I wasn’t sure on the RBI rule – thanks for clearing that up
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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You’re married, I could make a suggestion for satisfaction :)
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:11 PM EDT
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goodnight. see you tomorrow. then hopefully we’ll have some time off.
by char6587 on
Oct 4, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Please, Please spare us from Feliz (next year). There is just no possible way his fielding makes up for his atrocious hitting
by suffering on
Oct 4, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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There are empty seats behind home plate at dodger stadium.
That’s just sad
by jemagee on
Oct 4, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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Pedro Feliz is a worthless sack of shit. I hate him so much. There was never a doubt in my mind that he would do that.
This loss was kinda disconcerting because again we had a shitton of opportunities to score and we managed one measly run. There were so many shitty ABs that I lost count also.
I think I am gonna primarily watch the football game tomorrow (flipping back to the ballgame at every commercial) to let my mind reboot after Pedro Feliz’s AB. That is the kind of thing you need a day to recover from.
by FuquaManuel on
Oct 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT
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