Disgusted By Lack of National Support??
As I am sure many of you do, I log on to espn.com religiously and look for an article written about the Phillies and their success this season. I do not look for stories with a twist such as Jimmy Rollins and Pat Burrell playing together for years or Mike Victorino traveling with the team. I look for articles, much like the ones written about other teams. The articles that bring attention to all of the positive aspects of the Phillies of 2008. I want to see an article written about the greatness of Ryan Howard's season not just the negativity of his strikeouts and low batting average or that Chase Utley is really the MVP of this team. I want to read an article about the downright incredible pitching that came during the Brewers series. For some reason the articles are about the Brewers lack of hitting, rather than the Phillies dominant pitching performances. I want to understand why so many writers are picking the Dodgers in 7 when the Phillies tied the season series 4-4, adjusting for the first 4 defeats and winning the last 4. Cole Hamels who will pitch 2 possibly 3 times in the series and absolutely dominated the dodgers lineup with Manny in it while the Phils will face RH low ball pitchers, whom they generally feast on! The reasons given are "Brad Lidge hasn't blown a save this year, and that is a bad thing!" How is that a bad thing?? Who is to say he will blow a save in postseason just because he has not blown one yet?? Who is to say that the games will even come down to save situations. Other arguments are "Phillies inconsistent offense" and my favorite of all "Manny Ramirez's series against the Cubs." This is a new series!! Against the Phillies this year, Manny Ramirez's stats are eye popping right?? A .212 batting average with 1 hr and 5 rbi 2 runs 1 double. He has also walked 9 times and struck out 8 in 33 at bats. His OBP is .409 and his ops is a measly .742. Do sportswriters look at stats?? Do they have a basis for any argument? Dodgers/Red Sox are a sexy pick. There is a story line behind it. But, our Phillies have a story line as well. They have building up to this moment as a perennal contender for much of this century. They deserve to be on magazine covers and to be spoken of positively on radio and in articles.
What set me off is that I found an article on msn.com. The headline reads With Cubs out, Phils now lovable losers. I tried to find something in the article that depicts the PHils as lovable. Instead, i found an article that does not mention even one Phillies player on the current team. The article focused on Philadelphia sports miscues and leads the reader to assume that this Phillies season will just be another miscue. These Phillies players and us Phillies fans deserve more.
Here is that article:
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8651562/?MSNHPHMA
Another convincing surrender by the Chicago Cubs has removed from the 2008 Major League Baseball playoffs a franchise that defines futility.
It's hard to compete with 100 years of screaming karma.
For the record, the times haven't been rosy in Los Angeles, where the Dodgers just ended a 20-year postseason drought by skunking the Cubs. But the Dodgers did achieve a World Series victory in 1988, and have treated their fans to a fine, if distant, history of Fall Classic success.
The Tampa Bay Rays have handed their gun-shy fan base a mostly miserable, 10-year existence, while followers of the Boston Red Sox evolved from historically tortured to unrepentantly smug in only four years.
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please don't cut and paste entire articles...
Add a link (like you did) and a couple excerpt paragraphs.
by WholeCamels on Oct 8, 2008 11:00 AM EDT 0 recs
The fact is this Phillies team just doesn’t have a “hook” or easy story… the Red Sox are, well, the Red Sox, going for a repeat, the Dodgers have Manny, Torre, etc., and the Rays are the worst-to-first Cinderella story. The Phillies, frankly, are just a good team that put in a really good season. That’s BORING to the national media.
by WholeCamels on Oct 8, 2008 11:01 AM EDT 0 recs
I just want a reason why the Dodgers are favored in this series that actually has a basis. Also, some articles about the quality of our players would be nice as well. How about an article thats not written for Phillies.com about Utley playing against his favorite team that drafted him, the same team that let Victorino and Werth (2/3 of phils outfield) go for nothing. There are built in stories here. But, it always come back to us being a city of losers.
by schrifty on
Oct 8, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
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I was thinking about why they are favored, and I think that maybe I agree that they should be. I think they are just the hotter team right now. Not necessarily in wins and losses (we both finished september at 17-8), but certainly in stats.
September hitting:
Dodgers: .283/.372/.443 for an OPS of .815 — NL Ranks: 3, 1, 4, and 1
Phillies: .263/.336/.457 for an OPS of .793 — NL Ranks: 7, 7, 2, and 4 (respectively)
September Pitching:
Dodgers ERA: 3.16 BAA: .245 opponents OPS: .652 — NL ranks: 1 and 1
Phillies ERA: 4.03 BAA: .256 opponents OPS: .739 — NL ranks: 4 and 7 (respectively)
(sorry I couldn’t figure out a way to include postseason stats)
but, as much as I believe that the phils will make the dodgers wish they signed up for track and field in 7th grade instead of baseball, I don’t think that it’s unreasonable for them to be the favorite in this series. They have just been playing better baseball lately.
(and I think that this deserves a little credence considering the rockies last year).
but hey, who doesn’t like being the underdog?
by char6587 on
Oct 8, 2008 11:48 AM EDT
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I agree that, unlike the 1993 Phillies, this year’s team does not have an easily categorized personality. If there is any similarity in makeup to any of the previous Phillies playoff teams, the one they may most resemble is the 1980 team. Led by decent pitching (Carlton, Ruthven, McGraw), a few long-ball hitters (Schmidt, Luzinski), an excellent fielding center fielder (Maddox), and an inspirational on-base machine (Rose) they were trying to get out from under the failures of the previous four years. They won their playoff spot on the next to last day of the season and opened the postseason at home with limited expectations about their chances. If I remember my Phillies history they didn’t catch on nationally until they made the World Series for the first time in 30 years and it became obvious they might actually win a World Series for the first time ever. There certainly was pressure on that team to finally win a playoff series, but it may have helped that they didn’t go into the postseason as the favorites. So, rather than worry that the Dodgers are being picked by many “experts” I’m actually relieved that the Phillies are the underdogs this round.
As noted elsewhere, the former Dodgers Werth and Victorino and one-time draftee Utley are probably the easiest “hooks” along with the Manuel and Manny history. I imagine if the Red Sox and Phillies meet in the World Series we will hear more about Terry Francona’s days as Phillies manager than we will care to hear.
by phillyinportland on
Oct 8, 2008 8:37 PM EDT
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Better baseball lately? The Phillies have won 16 out of their last 20. Dodgers have won 13 out of their last 20. Sure they beat the cubs 3-0. But the 17 games prior they went 10-7 to San Diego (63-99), Colorado (74-88), San Francisco (72-90), and Pittsburgh (67-95).
The Phillies went 3-1 to Milwaukee. The 16 games prior they went 13-3 to Milwaukee (90-72), Atlanta (72-90), Florida (84-77), and Washington (59-102). While the Dodgers went 10-7 to teams essentially playing for nothing. The Phillies beat up on 2 teams that were fighting for a playoff berth (6-1 against milwaukee and florida during that stretch.) I still don’t understand why the Dodgers should be favored. They do not have a Lefty in the rotation against a team that feasts on right handed pitching, Manny has ugly numbers against the Phillies pitchers this year, and Phillies pitching is lights out right now, including a closer who has not blown a save in 2008! Oh, did i mention, PHils also have home field advantage!!!
by schrifty on Oct 8, 2008 12:08 PM EDT 0 recs
Well, according to John Kruk, the Dodgers’ greatest advantage is the fact that they get to start out on the road!
by taco pal on
Oct 8, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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makes perfect sense… why would you want that home field advantage thing?
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by foos05 on
Oct 8, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
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The reason people are picking the Dodgers...
… is because of they way the absolutely dismantled the Cubs, the team that most of the windbags on espn.com picked to win the World Series. A significant factor in the outcome of the NLDS is the fact that the Cubs are a bunch of choking dogs and played horribly, but the Dodgers are finally playing the lineup that I, as a Giants fan, have long feared. Furcal is healthy, Ethier, Kemp, and Loney are all playing every day, and Pierre, Nomar, Andrew Jones, and Kent are all on the bench (or in Jones’ case, off the roster entirely). This is a scary offense right now, and the Lowe-Billingsley combination is as good as any one-two combination still pitching. These two teams are about as evenly matched as can be imagined.
I think it’s going to be an incredible series that will go seven games, and I agree that the Phillies are not getting enough credit in the media, but if anything, I think that’s a positive.
by costenh on Oct 8, 2008 9:20 PM EDT 0 recs
ESPN just loves to talk about the ‘underdog’ dodgers now
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2008/news/story?id=3638756
Fox mentions “Manny & The Dodgers” – the phillies have no players names worth mentioning it seems
by jemagee on Oct 12, 2008 2:54 PM EDT 0 recs









