Meet the Amarons
No, no, I kid, I kid. Most of these seem like solid picks, a good mix of continuity with the immediate glorious past and fresh blood to guard against stasis. Todd Zolecki has the details:
Phillies general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. has his men in place for the future.
From the Phillies:
Benny Looper is a new assistant general manager in charge of player personnel. Looper will oversee the scouting and player development areas. Looper, 60, had spent the previous 23 years with the Seattle Mariners in various capacities at the major and minor league levels, including most recently vice president of player personnel (2006-08), VP of player development & scouting (2003-06) and VP of player development (2002-03). Looper spent five seasons as a player in the St. Louis Cardinals’ minor league system. He is the uncle of major league pitcher Braden Looper.
Chuck LaMar was promoted to assistant general manager, player development & scouting. While his main duty will be to manage the player development department, he will also cross-check at the amateur and professional levels. LaMar, 52, joined the Phillies in October of 2007 and spent the past year as the director of professional scouting. Prior to joining the Phillies, LaMar spent a year with the Washington Nationals as special assistant to the general manager and national cross-checker (2007) and 10 years as the general manager of the Tampa Bay Rays (1995-2006).
Mike Ondo has been promoted to pro scouting coordinator. Since joining the Phillies in 1998, Ondo, 33, has worked in the Baseball Operations department, primarily in scouting & player development. He spent the last two years as assistant director, minor leagues, while also assisting the major league coaching staff on scouting reports and statistical analysis.
Dallas Green (senior advisor to the GM), Charley Kerfeld (special assistant to the GM), Gordon Lakey (director, major league scouting), Steve Noworyta (director, minor league operations) and Marti Wolever (director, scouting) are all remaining with the organization.
As previously announced, former GM Pat Gillick will also remain with the club as an advisor to Amaro and club president David Montgomery.
The feared exodus of Mike Arbuckle loyalists seems to have been checked, though I guess it's possible that a herd of scouts might be lining up at the door. But LaMar and Looper presumably have their own networks to draw upon for replacements; I'm pretty optimistic that the Phillies won't see their system plunge as a result of brain drain, as happened more than a quarter-century ago when Dallas Green led a small army of baseball men from Philadelphia to Chicago.
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Dallas Green
When my 2 year old son is a 50 year old Phillies fan, do you think Dallas Green will still be a senior advisor to the team?
by David S. Cohen on Nov 7, 2008 1:10 PM EST 0 recs
if you count Dallas Green’s mind being downloaded into some sort of artificial thought matrix… then yes, probably…
World F*ckin' Champions, indeed...
by foos05 on
Nov 7, 2008 1:24 PM EST
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D.A.L.L.A.S.
Digital Algorithm for Loss and Liability ASsessment
http://www.thegoodphight.com
WHY CAN'T US?
by WholeCamels on
Nov 7, 2008 2:01 PM EST
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DeGaulle—the original Big D?—seems like a decent comp.
by dajafi on
Nov 7, 2008 2:42 PM EST
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lol… the current GM could just carry him around in a little glass jar. when important decisions arose, he could just hold the phone up to the jar for Dallas to decide…
World F*ckin' Champions, indeed...
by foos05 on
Nov 7, 2008 2:58 PM EST
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I think this if this season has shown us nothing, it’s that while all this new-age baseball sabermetrics crap may have a place in the game, it’s hardly the end-all, be-all and shouldn’t be the primary basis for decision-making.
For every Andrew Freidman who succeeded, you had young-gun Sabermetrics GMs like Jon Daniels, Kevin Towers and Josh Byrnes whose teams underachieved and/or flat-out bombed. Sabermetric grandpappy Billy Beane himself didn’t exactly impress with his Oakland A’s. Rebuilding yet again.
Meanwhile, who stands atop the MLB landscape? Old-schoolers like Pat Gillick and Chuck Manuel. I don’t think they’d know and VORP or a BABHIP if their very life depended on it.
More importantly, I recall an offseason of moaning from Phils fans on this and other sites about the geek-stat failings of our acquisitions. Pedro Feliz for one. His signing was met with moaning and derision over his OBP, OPS, and every other O imaginable. How ironic that he mashed the game-winning hit that handed the Phils the World Series.
Blanton was another. Too many hits per inning! His park-adjusted stats are indicators of futile success in Philly! Oh my!
And on and on it went. The purpose of my post is not to upset some of you, who will no doubt be upset. I would urge you to let go of your inner geek and trust your eyes. If a guy knocks in 100 runs, he’s a run producer. Period. If a pitcher gets people out, he’s a good pitcher. Period.
by philsme on Nov 8, 2008 8:53 AM EST 0 recs
was going to respond, but...
Really, what would be the point?
You’re 100 percent wrong about everything, from your characterization of Kevin Towers to your understanding of why the Phillies won (hint: it doesn’t have much to do with “the good face”) and your awful prose (“indicators of futile success”? do you write romance novels for a living?).
More to the point, you’re here to troll.
I’m pretty sure I banned you once already, and I think I’ll do so again. If you want to start a site for baseball imbeciles, god bless.
by dajafi on
Nov 8, 2008 1:23 PM EST
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As predicted. Anybody who doesn’t conform to the company line (idiot line?) is called a “troll” and banned.
How about you sack up and refute the point instead? Do you know how to make a point?
You provide facts from multiple sources and build upon one another to form a cohesive and, hopefully, intelligent thesis.
Now run along and gather up some facts. Name-calling and banning are not forms of debating.
by philsme on Nov 8, 2008 2:18 PM EST 0 recs
You proved, once again, that you’re not worth arguing with in the first line of your post. And there’s not a single “fact”—though there are, as I said, many inaccuracies, in your angry rant.
Debating hint: describing the position you oppose as “crap” before you event type a period isn’t the best way to initiative a respectful conversation.
Now buh-bye.
by dajafi on
Nov 8, 2008 2:42 PM EST
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It’s not that you don’t conform to the company line, it’s that you come here and are purposely antagonistic. If you were actually interested in having a reasoned debate you would make your point in a way that wasn’t designed simply to provoke a response and rile people up.
Moreover, you know the people on this blog embrace statistical analysis. You aren’t going to gain many converts to your Daily News-ism with comments like this: “all this new-age baseball sabermetrics crap”
by FuquaManuel on
Nov 8, 2008 2:51 PM EST
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more generally
I hate when people argue against a straw man, as this dimwit did.
Nobody here ever asserts that performance metrics are the end-all be-all. And I, probably even more than my colleagues, always try to make the point that the simply fact that we can’t quantify something (“experience” or "leadership") doesn’t mean it isn’t real or doesn’t matter.
Maybe more to the point, if the banned poster had any real understanding of what he’s arguing against, he’d know that few “sabermetric types” elsewhere do either. Jamie Moyer and Chris Coste aren’t “saber” players… nor was Chad Bradford when Billy Beane saved his career.
But they were undervalued assets—which is the real point of “Moneyball,” not VORP or the Dewan +/- defensive metric (which I don’t claim to understand). And Pat Gillick, believe it or not, was a “Moneyball GM” because he was brilliant—this year, anyway—at identifying and exploiting those market inefficiencies. Trading very little for Eyre and Stairs, both after the non-waiver deadline, was the best but hardly the only example.
Even Feliz was probably a bargain, despite his generally shitty offensive performance, because of his defense. (That he seemed to bunch all his hits in high-leverage situations, for the first and presumably last time in his career, was gravy.)
The core point is that more knowledge is always better than less knowledge. You don’t find all the answers about baseball from looking at a spreadsheet or “trusting your eyes”; both can reveal some things and obscure other things. So you try to take in as much information as possible, then make good decisions about what to consider and what to discard. And then hope your luck holds up.
Maybe it’s not the worst thing that idiots keep showing up to remind us of all this.
by dajafi on Nov 8, 2008 2:59 PM EST 0 recs
Old School/New School . . .
is not realy any kind of legitimate argument anyway. Gillick and Manuel and others in the Phillies organization understand that getting on base and hitting for power (slg. pct.) is what drives in runs. They understand all of that stuff I’d guess. It’s their job and their team reflects a ton of alleged “new school” though as I’ve said many times in the past.
What is BABIP? It’s “hitting in tough luck” and it’s “hitting ‘em where they ain’t” and all of that stuff baseball folks have been saying for more than 100 years. If it’s “new school” than it’s an awfully old new school.
What is VORP and EqAve and that kind of stuff? It’s a guy who wins you games doing stuff that doesn’t show up in the box score. Again, something that’s been said for a long, long time.
Anyone who thinks the “old schoolers” don’t understand the new metrics just aren’t paying attention. Every team has statistical analysts on their staff. The one for the Phils went to the GM meetings this past week with Amaro and company.
Here’s another thing. Understanding the “new fangled statistics” is not the sole domain of math and computer geeks. I had to take math 5 twice just to pass it with a C. I am about as low tech as you can get. I don’t have an I-pod an I-phone or an X-Box. (I tried to use a blackberry to send an e-mail once but the stupid thing just went “squish” — I dont’ know how these guys communicate with those little pieces of fruit). Yet, this supposed “new school” stuff is pretty easy to understand and use. It just ain’t that hard. It’s baseball common sense for the most part really.
You don’t have to be a math whiz or a computer genius to understand any of this stuff. It’s baseball explained in a newer and better way than some of the old timey expressions like “pitching is 75 percent of the game.” some “old school” expressions and phrases have proved to be nonsense. But so have some “new school” phrases already. For example, the so called new schoolers love to talk about “fungible” relievers. Geoff Geary is an example. Yet Geoff Geary has been good for four straight years. And other guys — Madson, Eyre, Romero, Linerbrink, Qualls, and many others are good pretty much every year. And many, many starters’ performances are up and down. Yet no one calls a starting pitcher fungible.
So called new school guys also talk about a guy standing up there taking a lot of pitches as having a good at bat while a guy who swings at the first or second pitch as having a bad at bat. It’s pretty clear to me there’s a lot more to it that that. But you still hear new school conventional wisdom like this.
Dajafi is 100 percent correct. There is a ton of information out there. Whether it’s new school or old school or Montisori (sp?) school isn’t important. The good stuff is valuable and the bad stuff you need to disregard and you use as much good info as you can to make your best judgment. And the smartest amongst us still don’t know nearly close to everything. That’s why baseball is the best game ever.
by smitty99 on Nov 11, 2008 12:59 PM EST 0 recs











