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Down on the Farm

If in fact our staff endures a few injuries, which seems likely, we do have a few options down on the farm.  With Hamels,Myers, and Moyer having a major potential to be out for time this year and Kendrick possibly going into a sophomore slump we do have some options.  

According to Baseball America Josh Outman figures to make his big league debut by September this year.  He is a lefty with a plus fastball at 90-94 mph.  He also has a late-biting slider and a solid change up.  However, when he falls behind hitters he tends to overthrow a bit.  With some practice he seems like he will be fine.    He went 2-3 with a 4.50 ERA in Reading.  He seems most likely to make it to the bigs first and projects as a #3 starter.

Next in line seems to be Drew Carpenter.  A second round pick out of The Beach and performed pretty well in Clearwater last year posting a 3.2 ERA while going 17-6.  He throws 89-92 and can hit any quadrant in the strike zone.  He has a plus slider and an average curveball.  Since going pro he has added a splitter and a change up.  His splitter has quickly become his outpitch.  He still has some mechanic issues and if his change up does not improve, they will have to take it away from him.  They feel that if the need arises for a pitcher he could make it to the bigs this year.  

After that we are pretty much out of options.  We can either pick someone up or bring up someone along the lines of Matthew Maloney.  Or to really push the deal we can bring up 18 year old Carlos Carrasco.  He is projected as a #2 starter in 2009.  He has been rushed up before but has responded well.  My guess is that he will not come up this year but maybe if he shoves in Reading and it is totally necessary he might see a start or two, but I wouldn't bet on it.

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Re: Down on the Farm
Maloney was traded to the Reds last year for Lohse, and Carrasco is 20 or 21.

by dajafi on Feb 12, 2008 11:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Down on the Farm
Don't forget Scott MAthieson.  Who knows what phils will get from him though.  He could wind up in pen or as a spot starter.

by schrifty on Feb 12, 2008 11:34 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Down on the Farm
Put it this way; if Mathieson is starting for us, we'll be deep in the brown stuff. They'll swing a trade or sign a vet before it comes to pitching some of those kids on a regular basis

by fredex1 on Feb 12, 2008 3:09 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Down on the Farm
I don't think that's necessarily true. Having to bring up one kid over the course of the season wouldn't be such a horrible thing, and Mathieson is just as likely to be that guy as anyone else. More than one would be a problem.

by taco pal on Feb 13, 2008 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Down on the Farm
I really hope that we see Mathieson contributing to the big club this year, but just about everything about him - power arm, some command problems, injury history - says reliever to me.

by Seth on Feb 14, 2008 4:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Down on the Farm
woops, didnt catch the trade of maloney.  also wrong math on Carrasco.  born in 1987.  Sorry.

by PhillyBruin on Feb 12, 2008 6:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Down on the Farm
Carpenter pitched all of '07 in high A ball.  I don't think he even sniffs the majors this year.  Carrasco doesn't stand a chance to make it to the bigs, and why should he?  No reason to rush the best arm in the organization.  Outman has a chance, I guess.  Although, I think he probably should spend an entire year in 2A/3A and be ready for '09.  Remember, also, that the Phillies have a lot of options for the rotation even if they aren't particularly great ones.  These include Kendrick, Moyer, Eaton, Benson, Durbin, the other Durbin, and Blackley.  That is seven guys for three spots.  I just don't see a need to dip into our minor leagues.

by Neduol Caz on Feb 13, 2008 12:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Down on the Farm
Normally I'd agree about Carpenter. But everything I've read on him suggests that, to use the expression of the moment, "he is what he is"--a guy with good location and "pitchability" but middling stuff, who may or may not grow up to be a Chad Durbin type.

If that's true, it isn't impossible to imagine him getting tossed in there, and you'd probably rather let him finish his shorter learning curve in the bigs than a guy like Carrasco whose confidence (and service time) are more important to the team's longer-term goals.

by dajafi on Feb 13, 2008 12:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Down on the Farm
The Future: Many Phillies officials compare Carpenter's rise to that of Kyle Kendrick, and he could wind up in the big leagues as early as 2008 if the need should arise. Until then, Carpenter will head to Double-A, just like Kendrick did in 2007.

That is straight from Baseball America, people i trust more than anyone at ranking colleges and prospects.  If we need him, he will come.

by PhillyBruin on Feb 13, 2008 8:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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