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June 11: Hamels vs. Miller

Philadelphia Phillies at Florida Marlins, Jun 11, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


The season is still in its first half, but it's becoming more and more plausible that the Florida Marlins, universally picked to languish deep in the NL East standings, could be a legitimate playoff contender. The Fish evened their 2008 record against the division-leading Phillies with a 5-4 win last night, powered by three home runs and strong pitching from starter Ricky Nolasco and closer Kevin Gregg. Florida's previous win over the Phils this season came on May 31, when the Marlins roughed up ace Cole Hamels in Philadelphia; they'll go after Hamels again tonight in the second of this three-game set. 

Andrew Miller, a key piece in last winter's blockbuster trade that sent Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis to the Tigers, takes the hill for the Marlins. Miller, who took a no-decision against the Phillies on June 1, is just 4-5 with a 4.65 ERA this season--though he's easily outpitched fellow southpaw Willis, whom the Tigers demoted all the way down to A-ball earlier this week. The Phillies will need to be patient against him: Miller has allowed 79 walks in 138 career innings in the big leagues.  

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Normally, I don’t get too ticked about the LIDP, but Rollins had plenty of time to get back there. That’s just a mental miscue that really hurts.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Howard

Works the count to 2-0 and then declares he will swing at anything. His plate discipline is atrocious this year.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Miller looks scary good tonight. That one run from Jorge frickin Cantu just might be enough.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Good inning for Hamels. They need to be more patient against Miller—27 pitches through 2 doesn’t cut it.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t think the phils will get shut out tonight, it’s a rather difficult offense to shut out, i doubt andrew miller will do it tonight.

In other news, no pujols this weekend

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Ruiz retired 5-3 after a crap strike call on 3-1.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah – but it’s tough for the catcher to gripe about a call.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just looking at andrew millers career numbers (and numbers this year in miami)...why is anyone afraid of this dude shutting down the best offense in the NL?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah well, he’s got 34 starts under his belt, and 13 this year and 13 last year where the numbers kind of look the same…i’m not scared of this guy just yet and neither should the phillies be.
They should knock the crap out of the kid with a a home ERA of over 5.5 a whip slightly above 1.7 and a BAA over 300.

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hamles with 5Ks through 3 and not so bad pitch count…if the bats would wake up it’d be nice

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions  

He looks sharp. It doesn’t help that Rollins evidently has decided it would be a good idea to mimic Pedro Feliz’s hitting approach.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Rollins hasn’t responded to the benching in the manner I was hoping he would. I was really looking forward to a rebirth of his MVP form from last year. Fat Chance I guess.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you over react to small samples in all aspects of your life or just sports fandom?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Every game is a small sample size. Since the benching Rollins has been awful. I imagine he’ll turn it around, but he hasn’t yet.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Howard and Utley in this series....

0-12.

Throw in Victorino and its 0-19.

That’s hideous for your 2-3-4 hitters.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Miller

Why the fear?
5 IP, 65 Pitches (32 strikes, 23 balls), 1 H, 0 BB, 6 K.
Lineup looks completely lost against him.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

What bugs me about this is the very strong feeling I have that Moyer-finally-will get blasted by the Marlins tomorrow. His incredible streak against them has to end at some point (right?).

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeez…1 hit and 0 walks against this kid? He is either really on tonight, the offense is really off, or both…I think its probably a bit of both.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

but at least Colbert looks sharp.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice Pitch by Hamels to fan Uggla. Wish MLBTV had been back for the first pitch. I thought it was 2-1.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions  

seriously, I think the offense needs Pepsi Max cause they need to WAKE UP PEOPLE

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

See….cole has commanded that the bats arise from their slumber….his at bat will be special

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Personally I don’t really care about this, but since we signed Benson I have been wondering why Cole Hamel’s wife doesn’t get the same amount of attention from the media, fans, etc. that Anna Benson gets.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

because Heidi isn’t as hot.

Miller has ended every inning with a K. Utley twice, Werth twice, Hamels once.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

She might not be as hot, but she’s much saner, and her husband is MUCH cooler

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess not, but she is still attractive, and she has appeared nude in playboy, something I don’t believe Anna Benson can put on her resume.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

anna benson will appear nude in times square, who the hell needs playboy.

Then again, i don’t consider posing for playboy a positive asset in a woman

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh no, me neither…I am simply saying that you would think such an act would garner a lot of attention from Phillies fans. But I have never so much as seen the camera get a shot of her if she was at a game.

It also probably has something to do with the fact that Anna Benson is something of an attention hog and doesn’t shut the hell up…

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think your second paragraph puts it right there, i’m sure heidi hamels (god what an awful name) could be anna benson like in philadelphia if she cared to be, seems to me that phillies players choose better in terms of attention whores when they marry :)

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

she’s been in FHM, not that that matters….

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hot or not, she was on reality tv so in terms of celebrity she’s dead to me.

At one point someone claimed Ruiz was fast…they lied

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So how many of millers first pitch strikes have been SWINGING? Jeezus

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

That would be a big fat zero. Howard’s at at bats in the 2nd and 5th are the only ones where the first strike wasn’t called, and in the 2nd he fouled off a 2-0 pitch. In the fifth he swung and missed at a 1-0 pitch.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Horrible, horrible at-bats tonight.

Cole’s going to have to sue for non-support.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Cole at bat will not longer be special. because Ruiz done messed it up

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Aren’t the pitches called from the dugout for the phillies these days?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Strikes out the side, 16 in a row, 10Ks through 6

SCORE A DAMN RUN

If the phillies lose 1-0 on a jorge cantu home run they should all shave their heads or something

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

You know, before the Romans (I think it was the Romans) went to battle they would perform circle jerks…just a thought.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

You would not be invited…

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am saying the players should consider it…not me for christ sake! They are the ones going to battle.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sure, sure, one should be careful when voicing their deepest darkest fantasies

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Colbert is dealing tonight. RUNS. Don’t let this go to waste please.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Sleeping Bats

What is it about excellent pitching nights getting wasted. First there was the Myers 7 IP no hitter against Volquez, now Hamels is pitching nutso tonight and Andrew Miller is p3wning the Phils.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Holy crap rollins took TWO pitches

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Not for nothing as i read my RSS feeds…why the hell is congress having hearings on the safety of thoroughbred racing?

Nice thwack Shane…stupid big park…why are the marlins ‘fans’ booing?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Kudos to shane for not turning that into a 2B, thrown out stretching at 3rd.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d pitch around Utley here. Howard is a good GIDP candidate.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I think they are :)

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep. the ump just decided to call pitch #2 a strike, even tho it was low.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chase Utley leads the league in RBIs against LHP?

THat’s my new favorite obscure stat.

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Chase Utley – MVP

Tie Game

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

not on my screen yet.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Time moves faster on the west coast

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I believe Einstein’s theory of special relativity says something about simultaneity…

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ever see that dudes hair? What the hell did he know….i mean did you see that documentary about him…IQ? Man what a putz

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We got a run. Yippie!!! Maybe they had a circle jerk between innings.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh god damn that was horrible

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

“Unfortunately, seems like there are more Phillies fans here than Marlins fans.”—Florida announcer.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

that doesn’t explain booing after Victorino scored tho.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think the booing is trying to drown ou the phillies cheers…

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would have been fun to see Helms try and turn the double play…

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Would have been even more fun to have men on first and second after andrew miller makes pat burrell his bitch

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

And the Phils get their first LOB of the night.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

A. Why doesn’t major league baseball balance out the schedules of teams in the same division so they at least all have the same interleague (amount) series?

B. What are the chances the phils make a play for that 18 year old cuban third baseman who just defected?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

2 home runs to jorge cantu? Seriously?

SEe what a story in usa today can get you….

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Eff me.

I swear I knew that was going to happen.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Cantu? He is the new Jeff Conine.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

SHUT DOWN INNINGS!!!!! Deja vu.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

In his first at bat tomorrow jamie moyer should ‘drill’ jorge cantu (sure it’s moyer so it won’t hurt, but still)

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Nah, they should put lidge in and HE should drill Cantu. THAT would hurt.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe lidge will get that chance in the 9th…game ain’t over yet

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid shit always seems to get us in this park. This one isn’t (yet) the Barajas/Myers nightmare game, but it’s certainly annoying.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

cole hamels strikes out 10+ and gives up only 3 hits through 7…the phillies REALLY should win a game like that, no matter who is pitching.

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Miller out after the leadoff walk to Werth. Probably Tattoo Miller coming in for Happy GIDPete.

Hamels has 102 pitches through 7. I’d probably let him go one more, but it’s questionable. Maybe if the Phils take the lead here I use Gordon.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Manuel seems to enjoy angering fans by elevating hamels pitch count.

I’m going to say, as a whole, in toto, i hate pedro feliz

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Abraham Nuñez, Wes Helms, and David Bell say “Hi”.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes they all sucked, BUT SO DOES FELIZ

and it angers me that placido polanco OR kevin youkilis could be there every day if ed wade wasn’t an utter moron

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate feliz as well. As a protest, I am going to turn the TV off for all of his at bats for the remainder of the season.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shit, Ruiz is just a sad sack of shit right now.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

The tampa bay (devil) rays hate chewing tobacco – do you?

Did you know don zimmer worked for the rays and has the most ‘stretched out’ fat face i’ve ever seen?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Cantu starts the 3-6-3 DP to end the inning. Off the bat I thought it might be extra bases.

This is my fault, and that of every other Phillies-following writer, for writing happy pieces yesterday. The baseball gods punish hubris.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

You think somehow calling carlos ruiz cantu will appease the gods?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude, they’re not stupid.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

they’re gods…who said gods were smart…

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the part when Hamels goes too far, and spoils a beautiful outing, and I go crazy.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

This is the part where manuel leaves hamels out there too long and spoils a wonderful outing by the pitcher because sometimes he makes managing gaffes?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah…that’s what I mean.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some nice fielding keeps it at one

Dobbs and top of the order against Kevin Gregg who is right handed…

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

115 pitches for Hamels.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

If the dodgers trade matt kemp the phillies should figure out a way to obtain him…and ned coletti should resign

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Where are these pitches missing?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

As much as I hate them in GENERAL, i wouldn’t mind seeing shane victorino bunt here…contrary to bill james 10 commandments….i’d just HATE to see a double play here

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Charlie Manuel – friggin genius

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

ok, less so, because it wasn’t a double steal but still

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

meh…

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

PHEW.

Off the bat, thought that was it.

At least Cole won’t take the loss, and the inning continues.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

One run will almost feel like a disappointment

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Cole deserves at the very least a no decision.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

So does andrew miller :)

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on Pat. Do the damn thing.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok, take a HBP. Whatever.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gregg hit him on purpose to get to werth :)

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope to GOD werth made that call on his own

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

What. The. Frak.

This was a closer who was tired and rattled. He might walk you; he might hang one. At the least, give him a chance to do either.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Is werth in the outfield to start the inning?:)

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gordon? I think I might need to change into the depends :)

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, thought of you as soon as I realized he was coming in.

I’ve got the bad feeling too, if it makes you feel any better. (It shouldn’t.)

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are you kidding me?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Its gotten to the point where I would almost feel more comfortable going with Madson in these kind of situations.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Like my dear old mom used to say “Go wash your mouth out with soap”.

by Steve-O- on Jun 11, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i mean, you simply can’t rely on Gordon to even be able to throw strikes when he goes out there.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I rest my case. It is time to experiment with something else.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stealing bases in the 9th inning when it’s a tie game is so much harder than at other times…

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

At least it wasn’t a home run?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Does Tom Gordon feel bad about something he did to wes helms in philadlephia?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Could someone at least TALK toGordon?

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

This is over. At least we got one more half an inning. Gordon boggles my mind.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

A walk off grand slam…fitting

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

What is Gordon supposed to do? He couldn’t throw a strike and he goes 3-1 with the bases loaded. Of course he is gonna groove one.

I will say it again: Gordon has serious serious consistency issues. In my opinion he should not be allowed anywhere near close games until he proves that he can throw strikes.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really glad I had the sound down for the entirety of that inning. That was a travesty of a debacle of a disgrace.

by dajafi on Jun 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah, I leaked through my depends. This really sucks.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutly Pathetic

I can’t effing believe this ending.

by Steve-O- on Jun 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a travshamockery

That should demote Gordon for at least a week or so

by jemagee on Jun 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

You know what Gordon has after one batter. If he fails to get the first guy out, or gets hit hard, he should be instantly removed.

by Bilzo on Jun 11, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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