Philadelphia @ St. Louis GameThread, Jun 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT

June 13: Kendrick vs. Wellemeyer

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 8:01 PM EDT

Philadelphia @ St. Louis

Right after contending with one of the National League's two surprise teams in Florida, the Phillies come to St. Louis and face the other. The Cardinals are tied with the Phils for the second-best record in the NL (40-28, behind only the Cubs), but they're currently without both their best pitcher (Adam Wainwright) and hitter (Albert Pujols), and a sense remains that they're playing somewhat over their heads. One of the biggest reasons why is Todd Wellemeyer, who starts tonight's game for the Cards. After three undistinguished seasons for three different teams, mostly as a reliever, the 29 year-old Wellemeyer has taken to the starting rotation with a 7-1 record and 2.93 ERA, likely good enough to earn an all-star berth. He's got a 3.52 ERA and no decisions in five career appearances against the Phillies.

Lineup

Philadelphia Phillies @ St. Louis Cardinals

06/13/08 8:15 PM EDT

Philadelphia Phillies	St. Louis Cardinals
Jimmy Rollins - SS	Skip Schumaker - LF
Shane Victorino - CF	Adam Kennedy - 2B
Chase Utley - 2B	Ryan Ludwick - RF
Ryan Howard - 1B	Rick Ankiel - CF
Pat Burrell - LF	Troy Glaus - 3B
Geoff Jenkins - RF	Chris Duncan - 1B
Pedro Feliz - 3B	Yadier Molina - C
Carlos Ruiz - C	Todd Wellemeyer - P
Kyle Kendrick - P	Cesar Izturis - SS

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Utley
Howard
Burrell

ALL GONE

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 8:23 PM EDT 0 recs

(in the good way, I mean. Home runs.)

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up 0 recs

What is better than back to back home runs? Why, back to back to back homeruns of course!

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT 0 recs

I’m having trouble believing that the Wellemeyer I’m seeing is the guy who put up that record and ERA… this pitcher looks horrible.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT 0 recs

Agreed, they are putting a hurtin’ on him.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

What the hell kind of at bat did they just have kendrick have

And these cardinal announcers are making my ears bleed

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT 0 recs

I’m getting that too with these guys.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

And here i thought once that buck idiot wasn’t doing cardinals games theyw ouldn’t suck.

I forgot larussa genius – i was wondering why the pitcher was batting 8th

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up 0 recs

BTW – if you missed it – instant replay should be in place sometime in august

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 8:48 PM EDT 0 recs

Alright Kyle…please stop this

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT 0 recs

Does all this first pitch swinging contribute to the genius of larussa?

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT 0 recs

I laugh every time the pitcher hitting 8th comes up with runners on.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT 0 recs

But it’s BRILLIANT I mean, Tony Larussa is doing it so it must be brilliant, right

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

I am not saying it is genius or not, but it makes sense. You can either have an 8 hole hitter trying to drive in your 5/6/7 hitters, or you can have the 8 hole hitter transform into the 9 hole hitter and allow your 1/2/3 hitters to drive him in. Basically, you are placing an extra emphasis on the 1/2/3 hitters over the 5/6/7 hitters, which, is kind of a smart thing to do.

by Neduol Caz on Jun 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

I’ve read the arguments in much more detail and the affect is mostly negligible in the long run, it’s not like your traditional 8 hitter doesn’t suck too…i mean would it make a difference if feliz batted 9th (yes i know, but he SHOULD bat 8th every game)

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hmm, but it isn’t negligible in the long run. Everything I have read says that the average team would score an extra 15-20 runs a season. Figure that is good for at least on victory, maybe two. Finally, how many times in the past 5 years have we been one or two wins away from the post season?

by Neduol Caz on Jun 13, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

what’s a hungo?

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:05 PM EDT 0 recs

I’ve always been of the opinion that when somebody is ready to come back in the rotation someone is ready to be replaced….that’s just brilliance

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT 0 recs

pardon?

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

one cardinal announcer said that when talking about their injured pitchers coming back and who they’d replace :)

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

oh…haha.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Part of the problem is that Wellemeyer works pretty slowly. They’ve got too much time to think of stupid things to talk about.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 9:16 PM EDT 0 recs

The bigger problem of course is that they are just plain stupid.

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well Wellemyer is done

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT 0 recs

The genius of Chase Utley.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT 0 recs

How did Villone never wind up a Phillie?

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT 0 recs

he almost did last year…at least there were rumblings among the philly sportswriters that we should have signed him.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not enough grit

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Which athletes Think they are bigger than the game and are hard to watch?

I can’t wait for these guys to talk about how someone should be more like josh hamilton.

The nationals thing is ridiculous, the manager was out of line.

And they think baseball has a higher reputations than other sports?

Good lord make it stop

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT 0 recs

mute! ; )

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

The clone wars second trailer was a nice distraction

George Lucas has to be embarassed that this animated flick looks better than the last 3 combined

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

See…Pedro Feliz now bats to give the cardinals a hand?

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:31 PM EDT 0 recs

“It seems like the Phillies have been up [to bat] this entire game. The Cardinals have been up for a minute and a half. Skip Schumaker ran around the bases and that was it.”
—Cardinals announcer

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT 0 recs

It’s true because the Cardinals pitchers are paaaaaiiiiinnnnffffuullly sssssllllooooowwww

I keep having to remind myself that’s not Steve Trachsel out there.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

Trachsel IS available though

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

that confused me too…so i started reading about the death of usenet instead…it’s sad, i used usenet to auction off stuff in 1994 so i could afford to move to california.

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

FELIZ WALK ALARM!!!!

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 9:36 PM EDT 0 recs

Impressive as he swung at the first two (bad) pitches

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

As they say before the HOVA mash up with Linkin Park

This is fun

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:36 PM EDT 0 recs

I think I’m turning elsewhere with my evening… will check back.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 9:36 PM EDT 0 recs

I just heard booing in heaven

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT 0 recs

Talk about an explosion. This is what we were missing from the Florida series. I think it is vital that we take this series from the team with the second best record in the National League (tied with us) (Really????? this team is tied with us) Go Phils

by Erufus2 on Jun 13, 2008 9:38 PM EDT 0 recs

The marlins have better pitching….oh yeah it’s raining in kansas

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

Kyle Kedrick…2 hits in the inning…I think I am gonna follow Dajafi’s lead…see y’all later!

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT 0 recs

Not to be the guy who farts during the toast, but we have seen something potentially like this before.

I’m fairly concerned that I lost a year or so off my life that night.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 9:43 PM EDT 0 recs

I hate you.

by FuquaManuel on Jun 13, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

YOu know i was channel surfing and thought i’d come back and the inning would be over already, holy crap

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT 0 recs

It’s been going on for more than 40 minutes. Like they stopped time. I felt compelled to see how it would end, if it would end, and of course Howard eventually struck out.

by dajafi on Jun 13, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

Oh ryan

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:47 PM EDT 0 recs

Oh Shane

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:50 PM EDT 0 recs

Rick ANkeil wants to EARN hits

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:51 PM EDT 0 recs

There’s a fire in the belly of tony larussa – get him a beer so he can douse it

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 9:56 PM EDT 0 recs

In other games that ‘matter’ to the phillies

marlins down 4 headed to the top of the 9th, cubs down 1 as blue jays bat in the 8th

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 10:01 PM EDT 0 recs

Kendrick

I’d love to see where he ranks among ‘pitchers receiving run support’ since he’s been called up. I’m sure he’s top 10, at the very least.

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by king myno on Jun 13, 2008 10:06 PM EDT 0 recs

Probably pretty easy to do

I always had the feeling that he got an inordinant amount of double plays myself

by jemagee on Jun 13, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

he couldn’t have found himself in a better position, and we couldn’t have found a more consistent, appropriate pitcher in our minor league system. it’s uncanny how it worked out

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by king myno on Jun 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up 0 recs