Washington Nationals @ Philadelphia Phillies GameThread, Aug 21, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

Redding, Phillies: Nationals at Phillies, 8/21/08

by WholeCamels on Aug 21, 2008 7:00 PM EDT Comment 62 comments

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Washington Nationals
@ Philadelphia Phillies

Thursday, Aug 21, 2008, 7:05 PM EDT
Citizens Bank Park

Tim Redding vs Jamie Moyer

Clear. Winds blowing from right to left field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 80.

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Nothing like a woeful Nationals team to help your squad keep pace with the red-hot Mets. Brett Myers tossed his first shutout in nearly three years last night. Jamie Moyer tries to keep it going against journeyman Tim Redding.

These last two victories have done little to mask the fact that the lineup is still being pretty crummy.

SWEEP 'EM!

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wow – Rollins grounded out to the right side. What a surprise. I think I mentioned that a time or two in “WE GON’ HIT”

by Bilzo on Aug 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

More garbage ABs in the 2nd. Though I was mildly surprised that Feliz avoided the 6-4-3 in his first plate appearance back.

by dajafi on Aug 21, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I am wondering how much more of Howard’s ineptitude I can take. This stupid fuck …. Ah forget about it.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well now ‘The pillar of salt’ is 3 for his last 33 with 17 k’s. Does he think he’s worth more $ than Albert? LOL.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rollins 2nd AB

Chopper to 1st…..
I don’t make this stuff up.

by Bilzo on Aug 21, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The one thing I cannot fathom more than anything else right now is Jayson Werth’s inability to hit a good fastball in the zone. That and the ability to make journeymen pitchers look like Sandy Koufax/Bob Gibson/Walter Johnson/Cy Young.

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Howard is just flat-out missing very hittable pitches.

He might need an off-day again. Let Dobbs take a start at 1b.

by dajafi on Aug 21, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He is now 2 for 22 vs Redding. Since Dobbs is hiting .308 for August yeah today would have been a good day. But remember Charlie sez ’ They Gon Hit ya’ll’.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate Tim Redding

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Watching the Phils “hit” against Redding makes me want to tear out my own eyeballs.

by dajafi on Aug 21, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It just makes no sense whatsoever….do these guys not watch film or what?

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They’re not just shitty hitters; sometimes they also stink in the field.

by dajafi on Aug 21, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shit smells and carries over!

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ugh, horrible error….1-0, Gnats

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

What'd Whole Camels say?

That Cole, Brett and Jamie ought to have a blanket party for the offense. How can they possibly pitch any better? I hate to sound like FM here fellas but with the series coming up I think the Phillies will fold up the tent. And I’ll sit here watching getting pissed at myself knowing I should be doing something constructive.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jim-Me

now 3 for last 36. But the fans shouldn’t boo, it might get him in more of a funk.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Are you fucking kidding me

What in God’s name is howard swinging (or allowed to) at a 3-0 pitch? He can’t hit his ass with both hands….Unfuckingreal.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

As funny as it sounds, Moyer needs the shutdown inning here badly

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Utley had a good AB with Werth on second. So that’s something.

Howard is just a flat-out mess.

by dajafi on Aug 21, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Terrible walk to Kearns

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Oh Jimmy, that won’t help your rep.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Jesus, Jimmy

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OT: That's a truly annoying Coke Zero ad

In fact, I’m generally annoyed with most of the ads this year, like the Carlos Ruiz one, while we’re at it.

by Aaron G Stock on Aug 21, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Shane with an infield triple.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dobbs should PH for Pete.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes take that Happy Pete.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, that gets it done.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

RUIZ!!

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Rofl, I was just talking about how Ruiz needs to homer.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Haha, AND it makes up for the crappy ad (which isn’t really his fault, of course).

by Aaron G Stock on Aug 21, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. ; )

by FuquaManuel on Aug 21, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Get me the defibrillator NOW!!

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

OMG

Ruiz…get outta here.

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

As much as I hate to say it…that was a nice piece of hitting by Geoff Junkie

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Don’t hate.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My money says the same thing. I guess if my money says not to hate, then I shouldn’t

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ruh Roh.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Did TMac just say that the difference between the Nats and the Phils (or I guess the Mets since he said first place team) is the back of the bullpen? Really? He said that?

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

just when Madson has you gaining some confidence in him again, he goes and does something like this. fuck it.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 21, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Madson needs you to gain confidence in him? I mean, a hit off the bag, a bloop double, and then a seeing eye up the middle. Kearns had a solid hit, but it’s not like he was blasted. Get a grip dude.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Obviously Madson doesn’t need my confidence in him, you dipshit, its a figure of speech. why don’t you lay off and shut the fuck up for once? I have only been glancing at gameday every once in a while, so I am sorry if I wasn’t able to fully understand the nature of his blown save. No comment goes unanswered with you.

I may take my anger out on the team, but you seem like one of those passive-aggressive pricks who really gets his rocks off bashing other people online. No need to worry about anything because you are tucked comfortably in the safety of your own home.

It is clear you don’t want to hear from me on this site anymore, so Daj, just say the word and I am gone. If not, then keep your dog on a leash.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 21, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

He doesn’t have to say the word. I could ban your ass now. In fact, considering your cursing and your veiled threat to me, I’ll talk it over with the other admins here and see if they agree. I liked you as fodder. You are the gas that keeps the fire burning. When I need an example of a foolish fan, you are target number 1. So, it would be a shame to lose my precious little poof is in the pudding. It is a dilema for me…

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If you have a problem with me or something I have said, instead of making a snide remark for other people to read and have a good laugh at (thereby boosting your self esteem) why not send a personal email? I, like most people, can only take so much ridicule. I apologize to others on this site who were offended by my language and I apologize to you if I scared you with my “veiled threat.”

I appreciate TGP for its unorthodox take on baseball analysis and its unique approach to Philadelphia Phillies fandom—unfortunately your resentment of the typical Philadelphia fan is to attack all who display traits of these fans with sarcastic, often nasty remarks. This resentment drives you to try and create a space free of any such people. Your self-righteousness is stifling but people are different—we cannot all be like you.

While I may be little more than a straw man to you, I would urge you not to forget that as abstract and immaterial I might seem through the internet, I am in fact a human being and expect at the very least a modicum of respect.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 21, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And, if I do end up being banned, I would just like to say it was nice being able to chat it up during games with some of you. It is good to know that I am not the only one who was being driven to the brink of insanity by this team…you have made watching games a far more enjoyable experience and it has been comforting to be able to suffer and celebrate with you all. Wish I could have kept a check on my emotions this time, if for no other reason than being able to continue to have access to this community come game time. I have a lot of anger, and the Phillies (and TGP I guess) have become one way I release what is pent up in a much less destructive way than I have in the past. Really sorry, goodbye.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 21, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t be so self unaware. You attacked me. I told you to get a grip for ripping on Madson who has been a stud this year. I had no idea that you didn’t watch the game and you certainly over reacted to it (as you often do). However, you took it down a level by cursing me out and by making a not even so veiled threat.

“No need to worry about anything because you are tucked comfortably in the safety of your own home.”

What the hell else is that supposed to mean? You may think I am some sort of internet dork, but I assure you, if we met, you’d probably realize how much of a dork I REALLY am and then would feel too guilty about beating me up. Anyway, you reacted to me and not what I said and then implied I had the problem. You do need to get a grip, but you aren’t going to get banned unless you threaten someone else (or even me). The cursing at should also be done with, but you just sound more like my mom than anything.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

First, I would dispute that Madson has been a “stud” this year…Lidge has been a “stud”, Madson has been solid. It is an objective fact that Madson goes through stretches where he looks unhittable followed by appearances where he gives up several runs in key situations. I have been a big Madson supporter this year, and I was just expressing frustration with the situation more than with him as an individual. “Obviously Madson doesn’t need my confidence in him, you dip@#$%, its a figure of speech.” —and for the record, I did react to what you said before I went on my profane tirade of personal attacks.

"No need to worry about anything because you are tucked comfortably in the safety of your own home."

My intention was not to threaten you with physical confrontation, rather to make the point that many people are much less likely to check how they are coming off to others when the only indication of human interaction are words on a computer screen. Fighting is a waste of time and I don’t much like it.

I am sorry for popping off, and I would just appreciate it if you toned down your comments in response to me.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 22, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

My comments have nothing to do with you, but with what you say. If anyone said them, I’d respond the same. Don’t take it personally. If you want to fly off the handle and take the time to type it here and hit post, be understanding that someone is going to call you out on it. I think that is fair all around.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 24, 2008 5:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We better not lose a game where Carlos Ruiz goes deep!

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was out for about a half-hour. A lot evidently happened…

by dajafi on Aug 21, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ryan Howard —> Gives me nightmares…in them, his whiffs cause me to be blown to the Land of Oz

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Question – has Ryan Howard ever been asked to think about situational hitting? It seems like he must have made some attempts sometime to do something like move runners along, hit to the opposite field, even lay down a bunt. I may not be remembering the exact time the Ryan Howard shift started, but it seems like ever since they started it he’s been determined to beat it the hard way – and his batting average has dropped way off since then.

by phillyinportland on Aug 21, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Eric Bruntlett < Kim Batiste

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Really, could I hate Eric Bruntlett any more?

by dajafi on Aug 21, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

WTF with the BUNT???

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Victorino singles. Next three guys are Bruntlett, Ruiz, and Coste/Taguchi.

Just kill me. The only way I imagine they score is SB, bunt, Ruiz grounder finds a hole.

by dajafi on Aug 21, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Vic steals 3rd and then scores on a suicide squeeze…Oh yeah

by Steve-O- on Aug 21, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Screw that….wild pitch is the only way!

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Honestly, I think that stealing third was the way to go there considering who was at the plate.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Aug 21, 2008 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And I would have liked to have seen a double steal in the 8th with Howard at bat – considering who was at the plate. It’s the point in the season where they need to be more aggressive both at bat and on the bases.

by phillyinportland on Aug 21, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Strike three was makeup call from SB pitch

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Way to snap the Nats losing streak….ugh

by Cluttered_JML on Aug 21, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Who would have thought

that the Phils would have better starting pitching this year and a much better bullpen and be mediocre at best because of an inconsistent offense that can’t manufacture runs. The booing of Rollins is stupid, and only convinces me that those kinds of Philly fans are the ones we don’t need and give the town a bad name.

by phillynyc on Aug 21, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs