Dominance and Submission: Phils@Marlins, 9/21/08
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
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Philadelphia Phillies at Florida Marlins, Sep 21, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
As recently as two months ago, Jamie Moyer was kryptonite to the Florida Marlins. Facing a lineup of free-swinging sluggers keyed on fastballs, Moyer--who doesn't really have a fastball--endlessly kept them off-balance with his repertoire of slow, slower and slowest offspeed pitches. Moyer won his first ten career starts against the Marlins, including two victories this season. But they finally got his number on Aug. 5--not by slugging home runs, but by drawing three walks and one HBP to go with six hits (five singles and a double), forcing the 45 year-old lefty out of the game with 96 pitches through five innings of work.
Florida's schizophrenic offensive personality was on display in last night's 3-2 Phillies win: the Marlins drew five walks, but struck out 16 times, and were obviously pressing in the last three innings as they chased bad pitches from J.C. Romero, Ryan Madson and Brad Lidge. As is so often the case with him, Moyer's capacity for forcing opposing hitters to make bad decisions and beat themselves likely will determine whether he can resume his former mastery of the Marlins.
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Let’s put an end to even the slimmest glimmer of the Marlins playoff hopes today.
Let’s go baby!
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really don’t understand what harm giving Stairs a start could do.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mets bullpen implodes again: they were up 4-2, but gave up 1 in the 7th and 4 in the 8th—with the inning ending just now on a great play by Murphy to save two more runs.
Braves take a 7-4 lead into the 9th.
Milwaukee already won today, 8-1.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5-3 DP (Dobbs steps on third for the force, throws across) ends the 2nd. Still scoreless.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
id be tempted to try a burrell/stairs platoon in rf.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gonzalez strikes out Easley to end it in Atlanta—Mets lose. Phils lead by a game.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pitcher doubles, Fuqua bangs his head against brick wall.
Can we get a goddamn shut down inning?
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my mlbtv has gone to hell.
wonder if a buncha mets fans just tuned in, killing b/w
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
then again…it could be pissed off that i was logged in twice, watching the phils game on one pc and the mets game on the laptop.
whats with uggla fiedling so well?
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AFLAC Trivia from Fish Deed
What 2 former Cardinals have plaques in the Yankees’s Stadium Monument Park?
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok …
gotta make them pay for that. at least one run.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Piece of shit AB by Werth w/ bases loaded. Still boggles my mind why he is playing today vs. RHP after his performances the last few days.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if ever there was an intentional HBP to avoid throwing 4 for an IBB – that was it.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think you can give Jenkins quality ABs in just about any situation.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stairs baby…I would play him over Jenkins any day of the week.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and he’s a better defender than Jenkins/Stairs/Bruntlett and they’re going to save Golson for that much needed PR in which they won’t use him anyway
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
God damn Burrell, painful. Just painful. When he slumps, he slumps HARD.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 5:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate him simply for his horrible shit eating grin in all his pictures.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was that abreu in RF?..
ehh…guess not. Abreu would’ve stopped at the track.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jacobs with the brain-dead play to quash a potential Marlins rally. 3-0 thru 5.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heh …. you don’t hustle, you don’t take advantage of your opponents miscues.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bet there’s a bunch of cussing going on near Shea stadium after that one
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice job by moyer today….not dominating, but only 1 ER in 6 IP.
I’d prefer to see him come out now…but not sure who I put in to pitch….
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what’s the significance of “fuqua” in your name??
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Charles Fuqua Manuel…manager of the Phillies. I just love the ‘Fuqua’ part.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has to happen sooner or later. Hold your breath.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the way he’s pitched lately….JD Durbin might be a better option
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im watching the steelers game on tv, phils on web…
steelers are going to win this. They look like crap, but the eagles can’t take advantage. When that happens, the team with Philly on its jersey usually loses.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Durbin gives up a 1 out double. I can just smell a mess coming on here.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1st and 3rd now. Oh god. Fuckin Durbin…what a joke this guy has become.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I’ll draft Baker as my catcher next year in fantasy baseball. He’s been a royal pain in the ass.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather the bases be empty. But he gives us a better chance than Durbin in this situation.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Romero walks Ugggggla to load them up. Shit. Why can’t anything be easy?
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh my shit. Throw a friggin strike!!!!!!!
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This sucks man. I hate watching everyone in this bullpen right now.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bullpen is tired…..but its still not as bad as the mets.
whats worse is that the phils aren’t beating up on opponents bullpens lately.
Who’s coming in? Condrey or Madson?
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From bad to worse…Condrey comes in and Greg Dobbs is hurt.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now score some gat dang runs you fools.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
please give shane a chance to run, so we don’t get a GIDP. I can handle K/CS better than GIDP
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think...
..the Marlins are laying down for you guys.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no way.
nobody in this division is laying down for anybody.
I imagine the Phillies are less hateful than the mets, but still.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That pitch to Feliz....
…was right down the pipe. This to a hitter that decides when to swing based on the direction of the breeze.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
most of his other pitches that inning were right down the heart of the plate as well. Feliz just made contact with one.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t be silly man. Did you watch the game last night? Have you watched any of the Phillies-Marlins matchups all season?
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go be facetious with your fellow mets fans.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good comeback.
You’re not only stupid, you’re funny too.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dobbs injury worked out for you guys.
Not only did u get the HR, but Dobbs doesn’t make that play.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 6:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah – that went well.
MLB scripted it that way b/c they hate the Mets.
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luck is a part of the game.....
…I’m just pointing out it’s worked in your favor today.
Why do Phils fans have a stick up there ass? I’m sorry you live in a shithole city. This forum is for baseball tho. Leave your personal baggage to yourselves.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are the one who came on this blog and started stirring the pot with your conspiracy theories/facetiousness.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My sense of humor....
…doesn’t fly here. Fine.
I’ll revert to 5th grade analogies and knock knock jokes.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meanwhile, the Mets guy didn’t say anything nasty.
He’s working through some stuff, obviously.
Try and be sympathetic and hospitable.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh god Lidge. This years Phillies’ motto: “nothing is easy”
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i bet he’ll be back if this inning goes poorly.
I know I would be….
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Lidge...
….was a good pick up actually. Just don’t let him face Pujols.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he’s back and he acts like a jerk, I’ll ban him.
I could care less about him, I just don’t want any of you guys not acting classy.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Relax....
…Phils fans have a bad sense for sarcasm and we NYers are very sarcastic.
I just need to be more sensitive to the intellectual capacity of my audience here. No need to ban. I’ll keep things simple for you guys.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Brooklyn. My guess is you’re from North Jersey.
So please, don’t go with the “we New Yorkers.”
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're going to build an argument....
…around an assumption based on nothing?
I’m from Queens and also lived in Manhattan. We consider Brooklyn the “other side” of NY.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My apologies. I figured anyone who’d bother coming to a Phillies message board after watching their team crap out again was of the maturity level I’d expect from a 15 year old from Englewood.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does....
…being a big baseball fan equate to maturity level?
Only in Brooklyn does that have any chance of making sense.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, thanks for the visit. Glad you got to see a bullpen hold a lead today.
Is Queens even in the city? Gotta wonder about a borough whose two most famous residents were Archie Bunker and Son of Sam.
(OK, that isn’t fair. I like Queens. Amazing jazz history there.)
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh....
..Seinfeld?
Brooklyn is full of homos, crack heads and stray dogs. Honestly, Brooklyn? Give it up man.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is wrong with gay people being from Brooklyn? I guess the converse is that all of the homophobes come from Queens. Makes sense considering Archie Bunker is from there.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I could keep arguing with him—about the economies of the two boroughs, or the cultural traditions, or any of the dozens of other ways in which Brooklyn is superior to Queens—but I think I’m just gonna wish him well and ban him.
Bigotry isn’t allowed here. Except for making fun of the stupid, of course.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about stupidity...
I mean, ripping on Brooklyn when Staten Island is clearly the worst…
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Sep 22, 2008 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something Brooklynites and Jerseyans can agree on
Screw Shaolin!
by WholeCamels on Sep 22, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I lived in NY for 30 years...
….and there are still parts of Brooklyn I’ve never seen and never want to see.
The wierdest people I’ve met in NY all came from Brooklyn.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Brooklyn. My guess is you’re from North Jersey.
I live in North Jersey… :(
by WholeCamels on Sep 21, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHA!!! I getz it! Wez from philadelphia, we so stoopidz. In new york you so smaaat.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fact, if Pujols is in the stadiium...
…just give Lidge the day off. I think the mere sight of him would revert Lidge to the mental state of a 9 yr old boy.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has faced him this season you know. Didn’t go too poorly.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the problem is that Lidge takes SOOOO long between pitches, It really amps up the drama factor.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why can’t it just be 1-2-3 for Lidge. WHY???
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You should see what it's like....
….having Heilman on your team. Lidge is a cake walk.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn’t mcpherson some awesome prospect from either anaheim or oakland?
how’d florida get him?
by Bilzo on Sep 21, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was hurt for years and ineffective when healthy with the Angels. Finally they cut him loose.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anaheim...
….they got him as a throw in for dirt.
He Ks too much but he had a huge year in Triple A. Doesn’t really count for much given that he’s 27. He’s a quadruple A guy who will bat .220, K a ton and hit a HR once in a while. Thy’d be lucky if he turned into a Mike Jacobs, who isn’t very good anyway.
by Omar21 on Sep 21, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god man. How is this so hard, really?
by FuquaManuel on Sep 21, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lidge really needs a rest.
Would be nice to see him get a few days off.
by dajafi on Sep 21, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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