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What's this strange feeling?: Braves at Phillies, 9/22/08

Atlanta Braves at Philadelphia Phillies, Sep 22, 2008 7:05 PM EDT



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Atlanta Braves
@ Philadelphia Phillies

Monday, Sep 22, 2008, 7:05 PM EDT
Citizens Bank Park

Jair Jurrjens vs J.A. Happ

Partly cloudy. Winds blowing in from right field at 5-10 m.p.h. Game Time temperature: Around 70.

 

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The Phillies enter the last week of the regular season in 2008 playing a similar caliber of baseball as they did in 2007 -- red-hot, more or less.  Only this time, rather than being the hunter, they are the hunted.  Both the Milwaukee Brewers and New York Mets are hoping for a Philadelphia Phold to open the door for their own postseason berths.


The Phillies, on the other hand, are in the peculiar (for them!) position of having to hold down the fort and just win their games in order to guarantee a place in the postseason.  The Phillies current magic number for a playoff berth is 4; for the division title, 6.  Some help would be great (I'm looking at YOU, Cubbies!), but not essential.

Tonight we get a rematch of last week's John Jacob Jingerheimer Matchup, as young lefty JA Happ hopes to repeat his performance in Atlanta versus Jair Jurrjens, who would much rather forget last week.

Just win, Phillies.

Please.


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Pretty ideal start here for the Phillies. Happ’s top of the first was so short I missed it entirely.

by christonabike on Sep 22, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

off to a good start!

by pjnc2003 on Sep 22, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Happ with the shutdown inning…barely.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Victorino manufactures a run in the second. Gotta love that.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Victorino is going to end up leading the team in BA just like I predicted.

OK I didn’t really predict that.

by Putsy Caballero. on Sep 22, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

A lot of Braves hitters are lining out against Happ. Not actually watching the game though, for someone who is: are the lineouts particularly threatening? Does it seem like Happ has been getting lucky?

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Not Kendrickian screamers, but probably more solid contact than you’d really like to see.

I’m trying to be realistic about Happ. He’s a #4/#5 starter, not a guy who’s often going to dominate the way Hamels and Myers can. But I think he can be good in that role.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Much better K numbers than Kendrick could ever dream about. So he is more likely to be able to carve out a niche.

Plus, he’s a lefty.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I definitely prefer him to Kendrick, for that exact reason: he can strike guys out.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have said for a year that KK needs an out pitch as he isn’t going to ever have a power 2 seamer. That said he hasn’t and it finally caught up with him.

by Steve-O- on Sep 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Sad but true. They were trying to teach him a changeup. Maybe if he can develop an average one he will be a fringe #5 guy.

Still, his control leaves a lot to be desired.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wish I could claim to have come up with that particular insight myself ;)

But it’s true, of course. What I wonder, though, is whether they should try him as a situational reliever. With just one or two innings to work, maybe he’d see some velocity gain on his fastball, and spotting him mostly (solely, to the extent possible) against righties, he could be effective.

Though frankly I’d look to trade him first, if he has any value for a low-budget team that might be swayed by his win totals.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to figure why Werth is still in the lineup after his recent performances have all but begged for a day off.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Just a concern

Not trying to be a Negative Nellie but I am getting concerned about the slump shared by Werth and Burrell. Werth is 0-last 15 with 8 k’s, is he pressing? Somebody give me some assurance…….please.

by Steve-O- on Sep 22, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions  

He just sucks against righties.

But yes, we can’t really afford for these two guys slump hard going forward. I think it is stupid to have them both in the lineup vs. righties at this point. I don’t get it.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Happ looks like my wife’s ex-boyfriend and also I don’t trust his inability to commit to a first-name. J? JA? What’s up with that?

Haha, Negative Nellie.

by Putsy Caballero. on Sep 22, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa! What happened?

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Marquis grand slam haha. Jews are taking over the game of baseball!

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is a joke, and I am Jewish, don’t ban me for bigotry. ; )

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me too—so I loved Marquis before. Represent!

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Marquis happened!

Grand slam for the Cubs pitcher

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I work with a jerk (don’t we all) that lives and dies by the Cubs. When they lose he’s in a crappy mood, when they win he wants to give me the entire recap. Hopefully I’ll get the recap tonight.

by Steve-O- on Sep 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s with this aversion to starting Matt Stairs every once in a while? I’m not saying Charlie should platoon him, but both Burrell and Werth could use a game off.

P.S.: Thanks, Jason Marquis.

by Walcott on Sep 22, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

I know, right? That’s what I have been saying for the past week.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Rollins has his average up over .280. Or at least it was before that AB.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Stairs can hit and Pat and Jason look like they’re trying to catch a fly with chopsticks at the plate.

by Walcott on Sep 22, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe, and I say maybe, Werth is auditioning for left field if Burrell walks. Just a thought.

by Steve-O- on Sep 22, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Thing is, the team is auditioning for a division title in 1 week. Cholly should have the judgement to say enough is enough with Werth’s “audition” and give him a break.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

McCarthy, that poop stain, finally gets to sound happy as Kelly Johnson homers to tie the game.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Happ is supposed to get the lefties out. Stupid “J” or whatever your name is..

by Putsy Caballero. on Sep 22, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops! Hung a slider. My bad. Tie game.

by Walcott on Sep 22, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Shit. We really need to win this by more than 3 runs. Can’t keep wearing our good bullpen down.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

how about a big 6 run inning? The Cubs can do it, why can’t we?

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell, they just need to make JJ throw pitches.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

He singles he singles. Slump is over fellas.

by Steve-O- on Sep 22, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, right. hehe. If only it were that easy.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Pat Burrell hit a 2-run home run the other night. And he still looks helpless.

by Walcott on Sep 22, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Pardon the long, loud, out number three.

by Walcott on Sep 22, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Probably you could make a case that with the Mets losing, it’s more important to protect the good relievers than to go all-out for this one.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d be fine with an inning a piece from Condrey and Eyre.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those two and Seanez…

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Introducing the starting left fielder/designated hitter on your New York Yankees, Pat “the Bat” Burrell!!!

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

What’s our ideal outfield look like with him gone next year

by phils11 on Sep 22, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holliday, Vic, Werth?

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

All we can do is hope

by phils11 on Sep 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m guessing Werth, Victorino, and fresh blood.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chief Bromden in. Good job by Happ.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Seanez in, Norton replacing Escobar—Cox taking his shot right here.

And the Phils IBB Norton. Probably a sensible decision. Seanez will face Prado.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Good work Seanez.

This would be a good time to score some runs and knock JJ the hell out of there.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

God damnit, they are not gonna score off of this guy again.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Not feeling too great about this one any more. Should have added to our lead when we had the chance.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Fantastic play by Rollins to get Johnson at home there. Manuel gets away with pitching Saenez is a high leverage spot.

by christonabike on Sep 22, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh wow. We NEED to make them pay for not scoring there.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Potential mirror half-innings here… c’mon Chase

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Golson called safe at home! It didn’t look like it real time but I’m sure we’re about to see it 15 more times.

by christonabike on Sep 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

nevermind, he’s safe easily

by christonabike on Sep 22, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup. Definitely safe.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought he was out too, but he might have gotten the foot in.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Who comes in for the 9th? Better not be Lidge!

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Evidently Ryan Madson is your Phillies closer this evening.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Just thinking he would be my choice.

Of course, he’s had 11.2 innings without an earned run…which means, in Madson’s world, he’s due.

Hold on to your butts.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Evidently it no longer matters.

by christonabike on Sep 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sign him now!

He just wrote his contract for next year!

by David S. Cohen on Sep 22, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh, that does my heart good.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Victorino with the triple

by phils11 on Sep 22, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Victorino is a good ballplayer.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Now hitting .351 in Sept.

by Steve-O- on Sep 22, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tavarez really has nada tonight.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

got home just in time for that home run – pat the bat!!!

by pjnc2003 on Sep 22, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Madson lookin good so far

by phils11 on Sep 22, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Braves starting to roll out their good hitters now… Larry Jr with a PH single, McCann up.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh for christ’s sake Madson don’t do this now.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s a home run, I think.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nope—ruled a double.

Second and third, one out.

That Cox hasn’t been ejected, at either the Golson play or that one, might be the biggest shock of this whole thing.

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Cha ching.

Good game guys. Still got me a bit nervous in the 9th, but you got it done.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 22, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Whew

Madson does this to me again. It’s a Rolaids moment. Great win

by Steve-O- on Sep 22, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Great win. They did everything right in the last two innings.

Could do with another month or so of this…

by dajafi on Sep 22, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, a big juicy s**t burger for me, Pat comes up huge. Madson was a little scary for a second, but glad it worked out. Just need the Cubbies to hold it together for 2 more innings and we’re golden. Way to go, boys.

by Walcott on Sep 22, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

id love for the series against the Nats to not matter.

by Bilzo on Sep 22, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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