Miami Blues: Marlins at Phillies, 9/9/08
by WholeCamels on Sep 9, 2008 7:00 PM EDT
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Florida Marlins at Philadelphia Phillies, Sep 9, 2008 7:05 PM EDT
After what can only be described as a frustrating win (shoulda been a blowout, but they taxed the bullpen and barely held on at the end), the Phillies send the struggling Kyle Kendrick to the mound to face the talented Chris Volstad.
Nonetheless, the Phillies enter the game 1 1/2 games behind the Mets (2 in the loss column) in the NL East, and 3 games behind Milwaukee for the Wild Card, with a four-game series in Philadelphia looming later this week.
Rollins, Howard, and Werth, with some help from the strangely enigmatic Chase Utley, have been running this offense for the past couple of weeks. Imagine how it'd feel if everyone clicked at once. They might need an onslaught of runs; I can't see Kendrick pitching a gem tonight.
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It’s unlikely, but I hope this is the last start as a Phillie by Kyle Kendrick.
by christonabike on Sep 9, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at this point I might be ready to have Eaton take his spot in the rotation. I’d rather Happ, but they won’t let him start for some reason.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Happ is supposed to start Thursday.
by christonabike on Sep 9, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ross swung at ball 4 there, but I suspect Kendrick will give him another shot at the walk.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I won’t go so far as want Eaton but by God it’s time for ‘KK the Klown’ to take a seat. He flat out sucks.
by Steve-O- on Sep 9, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh and after 2 sucky games
2 weeks apart he said "I just have to throw the ball and stop trying to pin point my pitches’ or words to that effect. Well KK throw the effin ball then.
by Steve-O- on Sep 9, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
werth deserved that after getting a strike called at the letters and one at the ankles.
How sad is it though, that despite that strike zone, kendrick couldn’t get anything near it without it getting creamed.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
now you’ve gotta rely on kendrick not letting them get a couple more here….
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get the Pen up…giving up a double to the pitcher….i wanna puke now.
by Cluttered_JML on Sep 9, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Picking up right where he left off is Kendrick I see.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hard to understate just how bad Kendrick is…my god, this is awful.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am by nature a pretty calm guy when it comes to the Phillies, because I know baseball season is a marathon and 162 games and 6 months are so long, but this is utter bullshit. Send Kendrick to Clearwater, Cuba, China, something….get him the fuck out.
by Cluttered_JML on Sep 9, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
‘Kendrick is just not able to get it done’
- Chris Wheeler
I am born anew in the brightness of your wisdom.
by Cluttered_JML on Sep 9, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. And it only gets worse. I am gonna go out on a limb and say that Kendrick should not pitch again this season.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
feel sorry for the guy. You gotta shoulder a little of the blame on Manuel and Dubee here for leaving him in as long as they did. Regardless, I don’t think he pitches MLB for quite a while.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was about to say “This is painful” before the homer. Now, it’s just numbingly crazy. I guess they didn’t have Plan B ready after the terrible first inning.
by phillyinportland on Sep 9, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what??? Happ struck somebody out looking? Why didn’t he get the start?
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Carrasco is able to win a rotation spot next spring. Like I said last night, pitchers that don’t strike anyone out, with poor command, and the inability to induce groundballs are not the model for success in the major leagues.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Assuming they re-sign Moyer, I like the top four of Hamels/Myers/Moyer/Blanton. Let Happ and Carrasco battle for the last spot.
(If they don’t re-sign Moyer, maybe they’ll go get Derek Lowe.)
Kendrick is cooked. We always knew his lack of good stuff would catch up with him; I’m mostly just pissed that this happened before a canny GM could deal him away. But that probably never would have happened anyway with the Phils, who always look on the illusory bright side of life.
by dajafi on Sep 9, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As Bilzo said above, I honestly feel sorry for Kendrick. He seems like a good kid, and he knew he hadn’t been starting because he’d been struggling lately.
With that said, I blame Dubee and Manuel. It is absolutely inexcusable — I repeat, absolutely inexcusable — to put yourselves in this kind of a position in the midst of a nip-and-tuck pennant race. If Kendrick were going to start, it should have been against the Brewers, a predominantly RH team. Honestly, sticking him in the bullpen entirely was the better option all along.
In the long view, I can’t fault the Phils for trying to teach Kendrick a change up and make him an effective starter. His groundball tendencies were very good, and he should — in all fairness — be in Triple-A right now if he were following a normal development curve. That being said, I don’t think the Phils necessarily hesitated to deal him — he was rumored to be part of the Bedard offer last December.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 9, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup. The fact that the Marlins torched him very recently—more than once?—figures into it as well.
Though I guess the counter-argument is that the Brewers games, by virtue of their head-to-head value, are more important.
by dajafi on Sep 9, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just thinking here fellas
Maybe the plan was once seen that KK was getting his ass handed to him again just accept the loss, let him be humiliated and lose what little confidence he has left and now Charlie/Dubee have a very good reason for both fans and team to replace him the rest of the way.
by Steve-O- on Sep 9, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ouch – I can’t see anyone with the team wanting to see Kendrick get humiliated. You can make the case to trade him or replace him in the rotation without going to this extreme.
by phillyinportland on Sep 9, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well with that dinger, I think my night of scoring might be over.
At least the Nats are being pesky, but with Carlos Roidgado doing what he’s been doing lately, I don’t think it’ll hold.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well tomorrows a new day
Might as well do some fall clean up work in the yard, it’s gotta be more pleasurable than this ass whipping. Nats and Mess tied at 5 in the 4th. Go Nats !!!
by Steve-O- on Sep 9, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in all fairness, while it would be nice to win every game the rest of the year, that’s not realistic. If the Phils win tomorrow, this won’t be as painful.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brett’s on the hill, I am actually pretty excited for tomorrow.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the bright side, Howard is getting red hot at the right time.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The utter inability to shut the other team down after scoring runs is really annoying.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
home run f-in derby tonight.
nice play by happ there.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't feel sorry for KK at all...
I don’t care if you’re an A pitcher or in the show, you have to be able to throw strikes when it counts…and Mets just tied it at 7 in the 4th.
by phillynyc on Sep 9, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im pretty sure kendrick isn’t up there trying to blow the game. He just doesn’t have it right now.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And by ‘it’, I think you mean ‘luck’.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is never, ever, ever safe to turn off a phillies game
by christonabike on Sep 9, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not a great at bat by werth so far. hope he can redeem himself.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies should have sent Stairs there. If they’ve got even a 50/50 shot of scoring there, they should take it.
by christonabike on Sep 9, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn’t give Utley anything here.
Miller would destroy Howard with that breaking ball.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh. well, 2 runs in 3 innings seems doable. Assuming we don’t go and give 2 or 3 right back here.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
after stairs singled…is there a good reason they didn’t PR Greg Golson?
Guy at 1st, 0 outs.
Seriously?
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That definitely would have been a smart move.
by christonabike on Sep 9, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only would it have been a good move to do it while he was on first, but even better when he was on third. Burrell would have been lifted but you leave Matt Stairs in the game? That is ridiculous.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Sep 10, 2008 3:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it might be worth it to get to miller to get him out so Howard doesnt have to face him
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, so who the hell is their closer?
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lindstrom. He’s not very good, just like the rest of the Marlins bullpen.
by christonabike on Sep 9, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silly me for thinking the Nats would play spoiler for anyone but the Phils.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Joe Nelson is probably the Marlins best reliever. He throws a crazy change up with a Vulcan grip.
by christonabike on Sep 9, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What is it about the Houston Astros that I hate. Why does it seem like every year they should be dead and buried and there they are in September winning games. I just looked at their schedule compared to the Brewers and the Cardinals and it’s way easier – one series vs. Chicago and one vs. Florida and the rest against Pitt/Cin/Atl.
by phillyinportland on Sep 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that year the they 6-0’d the phils and took our WC spot.
Wagner and David Bell gave them runs.
Hated them ever since.
Felt good to rob them of Lidge for Bourn and Geary.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, although I see Geary’s in the game tonight and his numbers this year are actually pretty good – 2.48 ERA and WHIP of 1.16. But I much prefer having Lidge.
by phillyinportland on Sep 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they pass us and get a playoff spot, I might have to kill someone.
by dajafi on Sep 9, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice AB from happy pete.
Can’t believe I just typed that.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Coste should maybe taken another pitch there… but he didn’t GIDP.
by Bilzo on Sep 9, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Feeling less confident that we can mount this comeback now. That seemed like our best shot.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 9, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think not splitting Howard and Utley with a righty may have lost that game for us.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Sep 10, 2008 3:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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