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Can't say I'm excited about this one

But I don’t expect this to develop anywhere any way. No need to worry.

Kevin

by kevinmc on Jan 23, 2009 9:04 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I disagree with this. I disagree highly. If we’re looking for a right-handed bat, I suggest we look for someone with a pulse first.

Plus, who wants to deal with this? (I know it was written by Jim Caple, but it’s still gross.)

by Walcott on Jan 23, 2009 9:24 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have no problem with it. Even at his old age, Alou crushes left-handed pitching. 130 OPS+ in 2007, 136 in 2006, 149 in 2005. He’s a fine solution as long as he isn’t playing full-time.

by yosoysean on Jan 23, 2009 10:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but he also appeared in all of 15 games with 49 ABs in 2008. I think one should be wary of his injury issues.

by Walcott on Jan 23, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Even at 42, Alou’s a fantastic hitter; it’s just that his career-long health concerns are now such that you’d have to put him in bubble wrap between pinch-hitting appearances. But as a fourth or fifth outfielder, starting once a week and coming off the bench, I think he’d be an enormous asset.

by dajafi on Jan 23, 2009 11:02 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree. Like any acquisition, there is always a price that justifies it. I’m not exactly sure what that price is here, but a cheap, incentive-laden deal would easily be worth the risk. Alou’s talents vs. lefties are well documented.

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by Steve Jeltz on Jan 23, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well said. If it turns out Alou wants significant playing time or a decent chunk of change — as Phillies Nation seems to think — then we’ll just move on. But at the right price, and using him in the right role, it’d be a nice signing.

by PhillyFriar on Jan 23, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Actually this was my feeling as well. If there’s no real cost to it, he could really be an asset mashing lefties. He’s got a huge platoon split for his career, about 100 pts of OPS, and as a threat vs RHB off the bench, he would really be helpful. If he’s not too expensive (or is paid mostly by incentives by PA or something), the only issue is if he doesn’t cost much of a roster spot. If we keep both Stairs and Jenkins, that might be tougher since we don’t really have anybody on the bench with options, which seems like what having Alou on the roster for 30% of the time he’s not on the DL would require— somebody with options.

by Matt Swartz on Jan 24, 2009 12:01 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t understand why we need to dip into the Fountain of Decrepitude for our token right handed bench bat. It’s the part of the roster where nearly free talent should be available, paying a premium for a glitzy name and a higher injury risk shouldn’t be a priority, though given Alou’s hitting, it is mighty tempting.

by bugbear on Jan 23, 2009 12:56 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree. You might as well get a guy who can play some defense and run the bases as a bench guy.

Guys who can smack around lefties without any other skills are a dime a dozen.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Jan 23, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Will Bill “buffet” Conlin’s off season grade of A for the new GM maintain if this signing occurs?

by jemagee on Jan 23, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I’m convinced that Batboy Amaro thirty years ago performed the Heimlich on Conlin—at that point, it might still have been possible to get one’s arms around him—and that Bill’s still sufficiently grateful that Ruben probably has a year of good ink no matter how badly he fouls up.

by dajafi on Jan 23, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

RH bat

Why don’t we just give the guy we traded Golson for a shot? He’s a righty, former 1st round pick who mashed 30+ HR in AAA last year. Not like we need to go out of our way to add “veteran presence” or “playoff experience” since we’ll have 20+ guys in the dugout sporting shiny new championship rings.

by kuff6 on Jan 23, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think the argument against Mayberry is that if you have a still-developing player, you need to put him in a lineup every day (in the minors, presumably) to get the full sense of his abilities and limitations. It’s tough coming off the bench; it’s a different mindset having one at-bat in a game rather than the expectation of four. You have to get things going more quickly, which is why it’s generally better to have more experienced players in that role.

by dajafi on Jan 23, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Julio Franco

I heard Julio Franco’s looking for a job. He should call Ruben.

by David S. Cohen on Jan 23, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don't Have a Problem with It

If this deal were to come to fruition, I don’t have a major problem with it. Alou, when healthy, is still an above average big-league hitter. Of course, his injury woes are a concern, but perhaps a reserve role will cure that problem. To me, the larger concern is his willingness to accept a part-time gig. I find that unlikely and as a result, I doubt this deal will materialize.

On another, did you happen to catch Keith Law’s ranking of the top farm systems in baseball? They Phils came in at #11. I wrote my take on it over at my site: http://heardinthecheapseats.com/, but would be curious to hear your thoughts as well.

Chris Iafolla http://heardinthecheapseats.com/

by Chris Iafolla on Jan 23, 2009 7:02 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He pees on his hands! I think that says enough right there…

Seriously though, I doubt he signs here… he’s said he wants to be an everyday player and he’s not going to sniff that with the Phils, so I don’t see it happening. The DH role is the logical one for him, obviously.

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by Travis Hughes on Jan 23, 2009 8:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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