Going 3-0 in the NLDS and Having Lefty Starters: Do the Dodgers Have an Advantage?
Floating out in the commentariat netherworld are two ideas suggesting that the Dodgers have an advantage over the Phillies in the NLCS.
First, there's the 3-0 advantage. This argument notes that the Dodgers easily swept the Cardinals, finishing their series on Saturday. In contrast, the Phillies needed another game and two more days to defeat the Wild Card team. Thus, the Dodgers are at an advantage because they are better physically rested, less emotionally spent, and showed their dominance by going 3-0.
Second, there's the lefty starter argument. This argument notes that the Phillies' power core of Chase Utley, Ryan Howard, and Raul Ibanez bat left-handed. The Rockies showed the Phillies a steady diet of right-handed starting pitchers. And their manager didn't even pull his right-handed closer facing Ryan Howard in the most important situation of the season. The Phillies obviously mash righties. But the Dodgers' starting rotation has Randy Wolf and Clayton Kershaw, both very good lefties. And their bullpen has Phillie-killer Hong-Chih Kuo (in 31 plate appearances, the Phillies have a .277 OPS against him) as well as George Sherrill. Thus, the Dodgers have an advantage.
Well, rest assured, the Phillies may be at a disadvantage against the Dodgers, but not for these two reasons. I'll address them in order.
The 3-0 advantage: This one is fairly simple to address. Since 1995, when the modern Wild Card system was instituted, there have been 16 Championship Series featuring a team that went 3-0 in the Division Series facing a team that didn't go 3-0 in the Division Series. Of those 16 Championship Series, the 3-0 team has won only 6 times. Thus, the team that was worse in the Division Series has won 62.5% of the time.
Of course, this doesn't mean the Phillies' chances of winning are 62.5%. That's not how statistics work nor is it what I'm saying. It's just clear from the historical evidence that the team that went 3-0 does not have an advantage because of that record in the first round of the playoffs. In fact, it's possible (although certainly not proven) there's a disadvantage of some sort.
The lefty-starter advantage: The Phillies certainly dominated the Rockies' righties. In the NLDS, they had an .867 OPS against Rockies' righties compared to just a .408 OPS against their lefties. But this is a tragically small sample size, on both fronts: 157 plate appearances against righties versus only 13 against lefties.
With a much bigger sample size, the Phillies' favoring righties over lefties disappears. In fact, it gets reversed slightly. This year, the Phillies had a .779 OPS against righties compared to a .787 OPS against lefties. Don't worry about sample size here. The Phillies had 4593 plate appearances against righties and 1745 against lefties. So let me state this again just to be clear: the Phillies hit better against lefties than righties. With Utley, Howard, and Ibanez, how's this possible?
Yes, the Phillies lefties do worse against lefthanded pitching, but only going from an .814 OPS against righties to a .793 OPS against lefties. The big difference is that the Phillies righties do much better against lefthanded pitching, going from a .717 OPS against righties to a .783 OPS against lefties.
And, measured against the rest of the league, the Phillies here are at a huge advantage. The Phillies' lefties sOPS+ (measure of how good the team's OPS is against the league for this split, with 100+ being better and below 100 being worse) is 108 against righties but goes up to 125 against lefties. The team's righties sOPS+ goes from 98 against righties to 102 against lefties.
So are the Phillies disadvantaged against the Dodgers in this matchup? Maybe so, but if they are, it has nothing to do with the Dodgers' sweeping the Cardinals or the Dodgers having very good left-handed pitching.
0 recs |
29 comments
|
Comments
The 3-0 gives them an advantage in that their rotation is set up right – i’d prefer Lee going in game 1 or game 2 – as for the rest of it – it’s a crap shoot
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 13, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So looking at the schedule, assuming 4-5 days rest
Game 1 – Hamels
Game 2 – Happ (depending on lefty/righty splits against LA)
Game 3- Lee
Game 4 – Blanton
Game 5- Hamels
Game 6 – Lee
Game 7 – Happ/Blanton?
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’ve got it right except for one big exception: replace Happ with Pedro. The Dodgers perform considerably better against LHP, and given that Happ and Pedro are pretty comparable pitchers, I’d shift Happ to the bullpen.
by PhillyFriar on Oct 13, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pedro wants to get bullpen innings before he starts a game, at the earliest if he comes in for relief in the first game on 4 days rest hes available by game 4
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 13, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read that as well, and if he’s serious about that, then I guess you flip-flop him and Blanton in Games 2 and 4. But the point remains that as solid as Happ’s been, the right match-up here is to go with the two right-handers to round out the rotation.
by PhillyFriar on Oct 13, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the 3-0 is the intangible BS that the talking heads can point to when they are too lazy or stupid to look at actual statistics and match-ups.
Agree with jemagee above that the only advantage to it is setting up your rotation, but I actually like Hamels in Game One. He’s been good against the Dodgers in his career, albeit small sample size. We need him to come through in this series if the Phils want to advance.
by doubleh on Oct 13, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t mind hamels in game 1 – it’s ‘not cliff lee’ in game 1 & 2 that i don’t like :)
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 13, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s one “good” thing about Lee going in Game 3: Assuming you use a 4-man rotation, he’d be in line for the Game 7 start on full rest.
by wildcatlh on Oct 13, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, because of all the off days, he’d be in line to start Game 6 on regular rest.
by PhillyFriar on Oct 13, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the 3-0 is the intangible BS that the talking heads can point to when they are too lazy or stupid to look at actual statistics and match-ups.
Yup. Remember when the (84-win) Dodgers’ bandwagon swelled up last year after the sweep of the Cubs?
by PhillyFriar on Oct 13, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MANNY makes everyone better
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
b-b-b-but MANNY!!!
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 13, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Here’s hoping Joe Torre listens to some of the LA Talkings heads and makes sure that Juan Pierre gets significant minutes
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 13, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
great article, david. there is another factor, though, with the phils vs. lefties thing: howard, utley, and ibanez face a significantly higher percentage of lefties than the rest of the team. last year, i discussed this factor here:
http://www.thegoodphight.com/2008/12/14/691943/phillies-vs-lhp-rhp
the reason this matters is that there is a selection bias in that worse overall hitters face RHP for the phillies and better overall hitters face LHP. put it this way— if teams could interchange pitchers every batter, the phillies OPS split would basically be howard, ibanez, and utley vs LHP versus werth, feliz, ruiz vs RHP. i think you’re right about the huge gap in RHB splits being a factor though. that’s a good point.
also, the 3-0 thing would only matter if it meant we didn’t get to throw hamels and lee twice each. all this does is adjust the order of when they pitch those four games.
awesome article, awesome series coming up…go phils!
by Matt Swartz on Oct 13, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Phillies can hit lefties slightly better because Utley doesn’t actually have much of a split and all, and Ibanez actually had a reverse split this year. Only Howard suffers against southpaws, but boy oh boy is he terrible against them. Thank goodness nobody told Jim Tracy.
by SethC on Oct 13, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just as Werth was probably the most important guy in the lineup all season, he’s probably the most important Phillies hitter in this series.
What’s crazy is that the next most important guy might be Feliz. Hopefully he can quickly snap out of that horrid slump from the NLDS.
by dajafi on Oct 13, 2009 8:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I’d pick Ruiz as the next most important guy.
Phillies’ OPS vs. LHP minus OPS vs. RHP in 2009
Werth +.275
Ruiz +.152
Ibanez +.139
Utley +.086
Victorino +.057
Rollins -.037
Feliz -.041
Howard -.434 (yikes)
(One year might not be the most accurate sample though.)
by taco pal on Oct 13, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ummm, they were a Matt Holliday ballshot from going to 4 games.
by philiafan14364 on Oct 13, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I don’t think the sweep of the Cards should be read much into. It’d be one thing if we came in and all the games against the Cards were blowouts, but all of the games (except for maybe Game 3) were closely fought games.
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
by Jesse Sparks on Oct 13, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d say even bigger than setting up our rotation is getting our bullpen tons of rest. It’s no secret that our bullpen is leaned on heavily (and rightly so), so getting four full days of rest will be really nice for them as they gear up for an intense series.
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
by Jesse Sparks on Oct 13, 2009 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They better hope that rest doesn’t turn to rust. Were coming in HOT and I think that we didn’t get burned out. we are better off without days to ponder. Besides if Phillies win this one they will say the dodgers are the Phillies’ BITCH.
I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.
by Christopher A on Oct 13, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
um – yeah – ok
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 13, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who is “they”? You? Sounds like you get your kicks by listening to the praise that’s spewed out of the almighty ESPN.
You wanna know how great baseball is? The greatest basketball player ever left his sport to play baseball.
by Jesse Sparks on Oct 13, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give Me Pedro Game 2
I ask you, will there ever be a better time there a better time to pitch Pedro in the playoffs than an afternoon game in LA? It probably keeps him from having to pitch in Philly, the weather should be comfortable, and the stage will be perfect. At this point, if the Phils aren’t going to start him, they’d be better served adding Bruntlett to the playoff roster to pinch-run. GIVE PEDRO THE BALL!
On another note, is it ever to early to think about next season? MLBFP has a scouting report on Kyle Drabek today: http://www.mlbfantasyprospects.com/2009/10/17-mlb-fantasy-prospect-kyle-drabek-sp-philadelphia-phillies—-scouting-report.html
by Steve @ MLB Fantasy Prospects on Oct 13, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s too early to think about Kyle Drabek making the 25 man roster…yes
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 13, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
per baseball prospectus sims...
Phils are a favorite to win the NLCS.
Win DS Win CS Win WS
NYY 100.0000 70.4483 38.7487
LAA 100.0000 29.5517 12.3033
LAD 100.0000 32.3828 12.8439
PHI 100.0000 67.6172 36.1041
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/postseasonodds.php
by Bilzo on Oct 13, 2009 11:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Philly fans
Wanted to post this yesterday but wasn’t a member of the site yet.
Exciting series even though it was heartbreak for us. You guys have a tough team. Congrats and I hope you beat the snot out of Manny and the Dodgers.
I'm still hoping to wake up from that nightmare I had about the 9th inning of Game 4.
by RhodeIslandRoxfan on Oct 14, 2009 1:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs


















