Phillies Breakfast Links, October 15, 2009: Hated in the Nation, Rotating, Bandwagon Jumpers
by WholeCamels on Oct 15, 2009 8:13 AM EDT
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Phillies Notebook: Pedro likely candidate to start Game 2 for Phillies
Exciting, but nerve-wracking! Go Pedro!
Phillies' Cole Hamels gets first crack at Dodgers
He's pitched in L.A. a lot this season; I've seen that commercial where the guy comes out of the stands, like, 600 times now. "Who are you?" (flat affect)
Phillies Notes: Martinez goes in Game 2; Myers reportedly off roster
With extra-creepy closeup of Brett.
Clippers' Butler is a Phillies guy
Great, we're doomed.
Phillies catcher Ruiz again steps up game in playoffs
You could ask for more at the plate, April through September, but the results in October otherwise are hard to quibble with.
TBS ratings up for division series, but Rockies-Phillies not a big draw
Well, no f---ing s--- it wasn't a big draw, most of us were at work, or asleep, for the games.
Broad Street Billy: This kid's a real Phils phan: Only 2 and already booing
Ehh, foul ball tossback girl is still cuter.
Dodgers owners separating
I hope they split everything; she gets Manny Ramirez, he gets Andre Ethier.
Inqlings: Radio war in Phils' future?
Good, I hope they get them off "The Big Talker" so I don't have to hear those vile Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh promos between innings anymore.
Eckersley feeling better about Phils closer Lidge
Can a moustache like that be wrong? Wait, yes. Yes it can.
Dear Phillies, please lose. Love, baseball.
This guy must be an 80 year old, soap opera watching grandmother. You're a really really s----y sports fan if you care about off-the-field STORYLINES as much as this doddering ninny does. Better leave work at 3 so you can get to the Early-Bird Special, Agnes! Oh look, his Twitter account is at the bottom of the article! Hmm...
Lidge has the courage to reclaim his heroism
I'll take first-pitch strikes over heroics anyday, thanks.
Wolf Pack won't be cheering for Randy now
YOU DON'T SAY?!
Phillies, Angels Team Up To Stop Yankees
We're in the World Series, guys!
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Good decisions all around.
Pedro starting Game 2; Kendrick off the roster; a 6th bench player (even if it is Bruntlett) added. Now hopefully Park’s as healthy as he claims he is.
by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
park brings his A game when it comes to playing in southern California
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Oct 15, 2009 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the rest of the time he’s bringing less than his A game?
That’s a strong professional athlete
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WPHT
I agree completely about the awful commercials. That one about Rush Limbaugh having talent on loan from god makes me want to throw my radio through my window. Maybe the Phillies could just negotiate to keep those commercials off the air. Because otherwise the 50,000 watts are pretty awesome.
by David S. Cohen on Oct 15, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
love Rush
that never gets old. I also love the irrational hatred people have for him. It’s kind of funny.
by uneasy rider on Oct 15, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most of it is pretty rational, actually.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 15, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most hatred, in general, is irrational…hatred of a gasbag blowhard trolling and pandering for ratings and cash might not be totally irrational, but it ain’t fully rational either.
He’s a moron – wasting your hatred on him – and those who believe he believes what he says gives them more attention than they deserve in my opinion
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
recognize Limbaugh for what he is, an entertainer who plays to the paranoid conservatives.
I’m a republican. i’m not paranoid. i think rush is funny, but I don’t take anything he says seriously, and often…he annoys me.
by Bilzo on Oct 15, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can understand why black people hate him though, right?
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s pretty cut and dry. To my mind, it’s fairly pointless to separate Rush Limbaugh the act from Rush Limbaugh the person for most of us. Sure, his friends can find solace in the fact that while he has created a very profitable image for himself, they can still like him because he isn’t likely to make outwardly racist comments over the Thanksgiving turkey.
For those of us who only have contact with him through his radio program, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to have strong distaste (some might call that hate, and it’s probably unnecessary to get into an “opponent” vs. “foe” quibble-match) for much of the hateful garbage that comes out of his mouth. So why is it necessary that we so be so gracious and say “that radio personality says the darnedest things” instead of “that guy is a total [expletive of choice].” When nice guys have jobs where they say mean things, that makes them mean guys to most people. Calling him “an entertainer” doesn’t make offensive behavior acceptable – it’s just a thin excuse.
by Steve J on Oct 15, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is actually more likely to make outwardly racist comments over dinner. After all, being a racist is not generally a facade someone puts on on their radio show and then takes off at the bar. It’s the other way around.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 15, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially if they’re democrats. he’s very brash to people who disagree with him, and since he controls who gets to talk, if you’re of opposing opinion and intelligent you don’t get on the air. If you’re of oppossing opinion and a buffoon, he opens the lines up.
by Bilzo on Oct 15, 2009 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it runs a lot deeper than that.
Limbaugh is too smart to say anything explicitly racist while he’s on the air. Paradoxically, most racist remarks that are made in public come from people who don’t actually hate their targets. Their remarks slip out because they’re momentarily pissed (Michael Richards) or because they’re just ignorant or because they made some kind of gaffe. In contrast, those who have an actual agenda to publicly crap on a particular ethnic group do so in a calculated manner so that they’re never technically over the line.
Most black Americans vote for Democrats, but like all other Americans, most of them are not particularly politically minded. However, I would posit that nearly all black Americans who have been exposed to Limbaugh hate him, regardless of their interest level in politics. The explanation for that is that people can tell when they’re being mocked or scorned, even if an outside observer can’t.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People who love rush, i find them kind of funny, not funny ha ha, but funny, you know, maybe you should see the guys with the white coats.
Then again I feel the same about avid watchers of Nancy Grace, Laura Schlessinger, Dr Phil, Oprah and most of their Fox News ilk.
What I find irrational – on both sides of these idiotic arguments (purely for ratings mind you) is that neither thinks a dissenting opinion is valid…it’s hysterical
Oh and listening to the hypocrisy of Rush Limbaugh lament how the media landscape that he helped create is coming back to bite him in the ass is funny.
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinda like you never think an opinion aside from your own is valid? Huh.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 15, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that were true maybe – but that’s a blanket generalization – and incorrect…are you the sherriff for a day?
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at one point – i thought you got it – but sadly seems like you don’t – maybe some day you will.
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh come on, you have an undying compulsion to always get the last word in and you ooze condescension in practically every comment you make.
Not saying you should stop, it’s (practically) a free country, and you are who you are. But I was merely pointing out the irony of your comment.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 15, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well what you were pointing out what you misunderstanding of thinking an opinion is valid and respecting an opinion – those are two different things.
Admittedly I respect very few people – but who I respect I respect their opinions even when they differ from my own.
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I think it’s a waste of time to hate rush limbaugh?
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not so much what you say, but how you go about saying it.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 15, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last word.
Word!
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget it – you’re no longer entertaining – you’re just deputy Sheriff now…sigh…
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure it must be heartbreaking for someone to hear that he’s not entertaining you. Seeing as how your opinion is held in such high esteem.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry I can no longer be of use to you, massa.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 15, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well-played.
Seriously guys…just ignore it and it’ll go away.
by Bilzo on Oct 15, 2009 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW
There’s a difference between not respecting a differing opinoon – and not thinking it’s valid.
In general, if I don’t respect the person it’s doubtful I’ll respect their opinions as they are the source of said opinion. Rightly or wrongly, I don’t automatically give respect to people – if i respect the person i respect the opinion…
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really hate it when, because I listened to the game in my car the night before, I then have to deal with Glenn Beck yammering away when I turn the key in the ignition the next morning.
But agreed on the 50,000 watts. It’s nice to be able to listen to the game during summer road trips.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don’t know the half of it. I don’t have television, so I listen to all the games – sometimes I will forget to switch my radio station before I go to bed and will wake up hearing Michael Smerconish instead of Carl Kasell. Talk about an awful start to a day…
by Steve J on Oct 15, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Chester
Oh, that Chris Chester guy convinced me. I now want the Phillies to lose.
by David S. Cohen on Oct 15, 2009 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW. What a douchebag.
This is just further evidence of the TMZ-ization of sports fandom in the US. We want celebrities! We want stars! Who cares about the actual sport?
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate adding Bruntlett to the roster. What in the WORLD do we need two backup middle infielders for? Bruntlett was only added because Charlie would feel bad adding Mayberry jr over Bruntlett. This really pisses me off.
The ONLY, and I mean ONLY way I can be ok with this is if they brought Bruntlett on so that they can pinch hit for Feliz. If that was the course of reasoning, I am beyond OK for it, I am ecstatic. But I am sure they will not PH for Feliz at all this series.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Oct 15, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thrilled to have Bruntlett off the NLDS roster, but after some reflection, I’m alright with him sticking around for the NLCS. I just think that carrying a designated long reliever (i.e. Kendrick) is completely unnecessary in a playoff series, and the resulting product — a 5-man bench — severely handicaps the manager’s in-game tactical options.
Sure, I’d rather have Mayberry because he has power against lefties, but given the choice between Bruntlett and a 12th pitcher, I’ll side with the gnome if for nothing else than the roster construction rationale.
by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keeping Kendrick on the roster also doesn’t make sense to me, since you can alreay send Happ out of the Bullpen as long relief, in the event Pedro can’t go deep in the game because of his long layoff. If the series goes so badly that you need 2 long relief guys, then Bruntlett or Mayberry is the least of our worries.
I like Mayberry’s bat better, but I think Bruntlett gives Manuel better late inning defensive flexibility if we’re protecting a lead and he wants to double switch for a pitching change.
by Cormican on Oct 15, 2009 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double switch doesn’t help that much if the position player you bring in doesn’t hit much better than a pitcher anyway.
But whatever. Not a big enough deal to get all up in arms about, I think.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking late game, with the 9th spot due up the next inning. Even Bruntlet’s bat would be an improvement over the pitcher. This is a pretty minor issue to merit so many posts though.
by Cormican on Oct 15, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No...it's ok to obsess -- that's what playoff baseball is all about
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since we’ve been bashing Rush Limbaugh as the racist, I’m going to make a stereotypical assumption here wrt Mayberry vs Bruntlett.
One is a 6’0" white guy in his 30’s. The other a 6’6" black guy in his 20s who plays corner outfield. While I may be totally wrong and admit this it totally stereotyping, is Bruntlett really faster than Mayberry??? I find that hard to believe. (but…Mayberry didn’t a base this year, and that may be tied to the fact that he seems to either whiff or hit it over the wall…neither situation conducive to base stealing opps).
by Bilzo on Oct 15, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait until Bruntlett is up in the 9th inning of a game where we are down 1 with 2 men on base.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Oct 15, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he’s pinch hitting for Feliz, I’ll be happy.
by Bilzo on Oct 15, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TBS
Something pretty Kafkaesque about that. Your ratings are really bad so we’re going to put you in the worst time slot. You were in the worst time slot so your ratings are really bad.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
extra creepy brett
Man, you weren’t kidding.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the 1 PM (local time) start for game 2 might be one of the more heinous time starts of these hrere playoffs cause I think it basically is an FU to both fan bases. Way to capitalize on the ability to broadcast in ‘prime time’ in one of the biggest tv markets out there TBS
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am supposing because of the start of the ALCS and wanting to ‘showcase’ the Yankees in prime time and all that jazz. But then again, the double-decking of the LCS’s has been done for years, so it isn’t a total surprise.
by WanderingMoses on Oct 15, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah the ‘prime time’ start of the yankees game does throw things out of whack – but still – you gotta think getting the LA market in prime time local time (10 PM eastern start) with maybe an hour overlap on the NLCS game would put higher ratings up. I mean, no offense to the Angels, but name change or not, Los Angeles is still mostly a dodgers town for the baseball fans…
I haven’t really minded the playoff time scheduling cause it made sense to me from ‘their’ point of view – but this one doesn’t make sense to me from TBS point of view because ‘night’ ratings tend to be more valuable than ‘day time’ ratings…so they’re blowing a chance for a strong prime time hour in one of the largest tv markets around…just seems counterintuitive to me.
I wonder if there’s a ‘non cross over’ clause…the games can’t overlap by more than 30 minutes or something (if 9 inning games)
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since it’s only one game, I can live with it. They did this for last year’s Game 2 as well, if I recall.
It has definitely been going on for years. The famous Red Sox-Angels Game 5 in 1986 was in the daytime, as can be seen whenever they show the clip of Henderson’s homer.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alarming News
Mr. Positive just changed his profile pic!!! Where is WL??
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Old news, dude:
http://www.thegoodphight.com/2009/10/14/1085411/mr-positive-changes-photo-world
Where have you been?
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ARGH!!! How could this have happened?
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And at the worst possible time! Somebody needs to contact him and ask him to change it back just until the end of the World Series.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just link it from the Wayback machine like I did
Besides, that pre-shave photo that WL found is waaaaay creepier than the old banner ad looking one. When his head is bigger, it’s just < Ellen Feiss>like, wow…</Ellen Feiss>.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW, I'm not sure where
his neck ends and his jowl begins.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think it could have had anything to do with the fact that people were hot-linking it 50 times a day around here? If so, that’s kind of hilarious.
by taco pal on Oct 15, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely.
As soon as I saw it, I figured his traffic must have spiked about 1,000,000 percent, especially since it’s a graphic.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A. That’s probably the most news that Rasual Butler will make this year.
B. The local ESPN (radio) affiliate is going to be bummed about the McCord split, they LOVE Mrs McCord – she gives good interview. Interestingly there were ‘financial’ concerns from certain areas (not MLB of course) when they let McCord buy the dodgers instead of the bigger all cash offer…now dude will probably have less money to work with – that’s strong.
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by jemagee on Oct 15, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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