Phillies Breakfast Links, October 16, 2009: Pedro-mania, Young Cole Pout, Stealing Away
by WholeCamels on Oct 16, 2009 8:21 AM EDT
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Phillies are banking on Martinez's playoff history
"It was really, really intense," Martinez said of his rehab (in 2007). "The most intense work I’ve ever done in my life. Two times I threw up while training and peed in my pants because I was out of control, it was so hard. I couldn’t do anything about it."
Brought to us by ajay in the FanShots, but it needs to be restated again here. One of the best sports quotes of all time.
Phillies' Park answers L.A. fans' snarls
With the crowd of 56,000 waving their giveaway towels, Park got Manny Ramirez to ground out to third, struck out Matt Kemp on a fastball clocked at 97 mph and induced an inning-ending groundout from Casey Blake. "That gun is not right. I'm old," said Park, 36, who had not pitched since Sept. 16 because of a strained hamstring.
Phillies Foil Dodgers' Strategy in Opener
I dunno, I kinda suspect most teams have "Don't give up multiple three-run home runs" stashed somewhere in their playbooks.
Phillies defense lets down Hamels
Amazing.
Playoffs: Manny misses twice in big moments
I can't stand the guy, but he did come through in at least one big moment.
Phillies Foil Dodgers' Strategy in Opener
I dunno, I kinda suspect most teams have "Don't give up multiple three-run home runs" stashed somewhere in their playbooks.
Lidge saves it as Phillies take Game 1 from Dodgers
Brad Lidge is fixed! YAY!
Martinez back where he started - The Boston Globe
Under the mango tree?
Phillies' Ibanez playing as if he's done this before
Played professional baseball? Yeah, he's done that before.
Second Guess: Did Torre have a 'Grady Little Moment' in NLCS?
Kind of unfair; it's only Game One.
Former Dodgers broadcaster Ross Porter analyzes Game 1 of the NLCS
Philadelphia's Philllies lead the National League in runs and home runs so their eight runs and a pair of three-run homers against the Dodgers in game 1 of the LCS were not that surprising. What really hurt the Dodgers in an 8-6 defeat were three walks doled out by Clayton Kershaw and two by George Sherrill.
But if you know anything about Kershaw, those walks (91 on the season!) were totally foreseeable.
Now a Dodger, reborn Padilla to face former team
Will his blood alcohol content be higher or lower than his ERA?
In Game 2, Pedro Returns to Where It All Began
If this is Pedro's last game as a Phillie, it needs to be said: It's been a privilege watching him.
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Who is the 4th Starter?
O.K…
Cole Hamels starts Game 1
Pedro Martinez starts Game 2, but they only expect 75 to 95 pitches from him, which means a long relief appearance by somebody, or else many relievers pitch.
Cliff Lee starts Game 3.
If Happ and Blanton are being used as relievers…
Who is the 4th starter?
(Or will Charlie save Blanton to start Game 4?)
We can’t use a 3-man rotation, can we? (or is Cole Hamels going to pitch on short rest?)
Who is the 4th Starter?
by JWoody on Oct 16, 2009 8:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would guess Cookies gets the ball for the 4th game. Happ has a lot of value as a LOOGY in the pen right now. It also depends on the weather in Philly – if it rains and a game gets pushed back, Colbert could possibly pitch game 4 on normal rest. I find his increasing pouting to be disconcerting. I would love to play poker with him, though.
by WanderingMoses on Oct 16, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The CW (not the TV station) – which is most accurately reflected on places like WIP and fightins.com – is all over Colbert today. I agree that he shouldn’t have reacted the way he did. That was wrong. I fear that he’s about to become the new Abreu though, which would be unfortunate and unnecessary.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just a couple days ago I said that when the day comes that Hamels leaves the organization, I was afraid it was going to be a messy divorce.
Stuff like this is the reason I suspect that.
by Bilzo on Oct 16, 2009 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suspect part of Hamels’ problem is that he is gaining a sense of entitlement, and that will eliminate any ability to have a killer instinct or the ability to roll with the punches. In some ways, he has believed the hype and while his numbers are similar between 2008 and 2009 – his demeanor has been (possibly irrevocably) altered, and that will, as you contend, lead to a messy divorce after 2011.
by WanderingMoses on Oct 16, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be too bad. Cole has always been ultra-confident/cocky, but before this year, it manifested itself through unflappability. There really does seem to have been a change in his personality this year. He’s gotten upset about ball-strike calls, errors, and what not on numerous occasions.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Marcus Hayes
He exists just to make other people unhappy. That’s the only explanation, isn’t it?
by David S. Cohen on Oct 16, 2009 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s a miserable [insert expletive here]. All he does is whine and find the most negative aspects of any game/athlete to point out in his articles or on DNL. He needs to start taking lithium or something.
by doubleh on Oct 16, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How that guy has a job as a sports writer in this town is beyond me. He is the 360 pounds of ineptness at Philly.com. Total Loser.
by LAPhillyPhan on Oct 16, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and that is the LAST article I will read by that douche’ bag. Someone take a stand and not post links to his articles on this site, he should write obituaries, since they are depressing already.
by LAPhillyPhan on Oct 16, 2009 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One botched DP – in a game the Phillies won – and suddenly Jimmy Rollins and Chase Effing Utley are “360 pounds of ineptness.”
And his last column was about how Carlos Ruiz, 4th in VORP rate among NL catchers, was somehow a bad hitter during the regular season.
by SethC on Oct 16, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the radio this morning, they’ve been referring to Chooch as “Sr. Octubre”
I love it.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did that first here
Check the Rockies threads.
TGP: trendsetters! Look for Mr. Positive gear any day now…
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 16, 2009 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mr. Positive is seriously missing the boat by not having an online store.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Should someone email him and ask?
I’d do it, but it would seem sort of strange. I wonder if he’d be pissed off about all the extra web traffic he’s probably had recently:
drb(at)mrpositive(dot)com
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 16, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I just realized he lives in L.A. (or at least his mailing address is in Marina Del Rey – I assume that’s his office). Could he be a Dodgers fan?
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hayes sucks, but he’s sucking in a rather unexpected way this morning. I think he usually follows the CW, supports grittiness, etc. I would have expected him to express his unfairness by piling on “Prima Donna Cole” excessively. Not by blaming the infield.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he forget that the Phils won? And Cole was the winning pitcher? Die, journalism, die.
by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on Oct 16, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wins don't really matter for pitchers
Moyer won lots this year, but I can’t really say he was the best pitcher on the team.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 16, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Michael’s point was that since Cole got the win anyway, Hayes has no cause to “stand up” for him by trashing the infield. I don’t think he was commenting on the statistical significance of Ws.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
taco ftw
by TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsMichaelBourn on Oct 21, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure the defense let him down on that double play, but I didn’t know the defense served up 3 changeups in a row to one of the best hitters in the league.
by SJPhillyVT on Oct 16, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Martinez and the mango tree of myth
“Martinez back where he started – The Boston Globe
Under the mango tree?”
I’ve seen the mango tree quote, of course, but jeez. What, is he some sort of Dominican Isaac Newton? Or are we sure it wasn’t really a Bodhi tree?
Whatever the case, Pedro is the kind of player who is a fountainhead for baseball mythology — he’s a modern day Ruth with enormous talent and enormous personality. It is fun seeing it play out. Tonight could be another chapter in that mythology, and I am really looking forward to it — at best it could be a chance to watch the phoenix one more time, much like it must have been to see Ruth hit 3 home runs in his last game (in Pennsylvania at Forbes Field, for what it is worth).
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 16, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody else notice the post game interviewr butchering the pronunciation of
“raul ibañez” last night after talking with lidge.
I cringe at my parents who call him
eye-bin-ezzz
but an announcer…sheesh?
by Bilzo on Oct 16, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I saw that. And also how he just kind of walked away from Lidge. He looked flustered in that powder blue sports coat.
by LAPhillyPhan on Oct 16, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he was thinking of the guitar brand, which really is pronounced that way.
Are you talking about Craig Sager of NBA on TBS fame? That was one ugly suit he was wearing.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did you notice Lidge said as he was walking away, “Let me know later where you got that suit from, okay?”
Classic.
I love Lidge, but I don’t think I’ve ever been more nervous with a 2 run lead and 2 outs than last night.
by BigPhillyStyle on Oct 16, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah…we had to rewind the DVR a couple times to hear what Lidge said.
by Bilzo on Oct 16, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is a wonderful quote.
I thought it was odd how close he was standing to Rollins prior to the first AB. It kind of reminded me like this was a Japanese game show .
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 16, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah!
It is an honor and a privilege to watch Pedro. What other professional sports player would ever talk about peeing their pants? At the age of 35?
And it won’t be his last game in a Phillies uniform – that will be in the World Series ;-).
by ajay on Oct 16, 2009 11:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is almost as good as the Matt Stairs quote from last year. Guess we need one a year as a good omen?
Jim Johnson 1941-2009
"The 0-2 pitch, swing and a miss! STRUCK HIM OUT! The Philadelphia Phillies are 2008 World Champions of baseball! And let the city celebrate! " - Harry Kalas 1936-2009
by Whodie126 on Oct 16, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Phillies did what they do
They did pretty much nothing for 4 innings, then score 5 runs. The Dodgers must have been thinking “what just happened?” The Phils seem to have the look and feel of those dominant Yankee teams back in the day. They just act like they know they are going to win. Loving it.
And I can’t wait for today’s game… I’ll be there!
by The R on Oct 16, 2009 12:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I was listening on the radio for the first 3 innings and you would have thought that Kershaw was working on a 1-0 1-hitter in the top of the 8th, not the top of the 4th.
I love where we’re positioned. Up 1-0, Lee going in game 3 means the Pedro experiment has limited downside. If he pitches a gem today, you might well call the series. If he doesn’t look so good, we got the split on the road and have our best guy on the slate for pivotal game 3.
by BigPhillyStyle on Oct 16, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kuroda has always been trouble for us though. I could actually see him outpitching Lee.
But still, with a 2-0 lead and going home for three games, it’s hard to see how we’d lose.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the yankees that lost to the Fish in the world series say “hi”.
by Bilzo on Oct 16, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah yeah, and the ‘86 Red Sox etc. I’m not saying it’s impossible, just that the odds would be overwhelmingly in our favor.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a second – the Yankees and Marlins split their first two games, and they were both in the Bronx, not in Miami.
by taco pal on Oct 16, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong series
I think he was thinking about the Yankees-Braves in 1996, when the Yankees lost the first two at home and then won four straight.
by phillyinportland on Oct 17, 2009 3:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lolz, you never agree with any of the links you post
by philiafan14364 on Oct 16, 2009 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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