Phillies Breakfast Links, October 20, 2009: Abbreviated Afterglow Do-It-Yourself Edition, Part II
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2009 9:05 AM EDT
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PrintSo yeah, I was there last night, and after an hour trying to get out of a Springsteen'd parking lot and two hours on the NJ Turnpike, there wasn't much sleep and even less chance to compile links. So, here's a few to get you started. Consider this an open thread, and add links to stories you like.
Namaste.
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I parked in the park past the Eagles lot. Was a hike, but SO worth it, hopped right onto the highway.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Why not FDR? It’s free, if you get a good spot you are only walking from a little further than the Pattison Orange line stop, and you can drink beers while looking at grass instead of a parking lot before the game. Oh, and getting out of there is roughly a million times faster than any lot by the Bank (I did a quick calculation).
I’ve parked there before. Of course, the downside is that you park at your own risk. But if you don’t have a super nice car, it’s probably worth it. (There’s also dog doo everywhere, so gotta watch your step.)
Another good pay lot is on the North side of Pattison west of Broad. Probably about a 15 minute walk but traffic is never a problem. No one should ever park in the stadium lot.
I suppose. I either bike or take the subway, so I can’t speak about my own vehicle, but I tailgate with a bunch of drivers there before almost every game and I’ve never heard of anyone having any break-in troubles in FDR. Don’t leave anything in plain view in your car, as you would anywhere in the city, and I can’t imagine there would be any problems.
As far as the dog doo goes, watch your step I suppose.
We particularly like parking down where the road around the park has the ramp up to Broad. A slightly longer walk, as you are down by the Wachovia Center, but home in a matter of a minutes after the game.
I park here and then go down Pattinson to Delaware/Columbus Blvd and take that to Penns Landing, were I live. You could cut over to 5th and take the Ben Franklin Bridge, but I’m not sure if its faster for you.
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by say hey nation on Oct 20, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions
I haven’t driven to the sports complex in several years. But when my parents go down there, they usually drive into Center City and park in a garage there and then take the BSL down to stadium. They live in NW Philly though, so its pretty convenient for them.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 20, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions
God I love October!
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
by foos05 on Oct 20, 2009 9:25 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Jayson Stark
Pretty good take on last night from Stark here. He just needs an editor so that it doesn’t appear that the president from the West Wing scored the tying run.
Thanks for the link. That should be required reading. It’s almost prose and it beautifully captures the magic that was last night.
by Boundforbeach on Oct 20, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
New York Times
Agreed about Stark’s column. There’s also a good story in the NYT today that includes some tidbits not mentioned in the Philadelphia papers, like how the ninth inning looked to Eyre, Madson, and Lidge. Well-written story.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/20/sports/baseball/20nlcs.html?th&emc=th
by phillyinportland on Oct 20, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
This Stark column is one for the books. Well-written, as usual. Highly recommended reading. As a teenager I absolutely pored over his Sunday Inquirer “Week in Review” feature.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 20, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
As a teenager I absolutely pored over his Sunday Inquirer "Week in Review" feature.
Oh man, totally.
Admittedly, he is kind of a hack with stats though I didn’t know that back then. It’s funny to see how much he’s now hated by fans of enemy teams now that he has a nationwide platform. It’s understandable since he is a bit of a homer, but an unusual experience for a Phillies fan.
Damn...
For all the talk about the golden rule and not baiting Dodger fans, here’s a classless little excerpt from a columnist at the Los Angeles Times about the Phaithful.
As you know, Fox will be broadcasting the World Series and it likes to put the camera on the face of every single fan sitting in the stands, these fans as ugly as any in the country.
Nowhere in America are people more angry than those living here. During Game 3 they had their humorless furry mascot put on boxing gloves and take on someone who was supposed to be an L.A. fan, sunglasses, cellphone and all.
The furry mascot punched him out, much to the delight of the folks here who love a dash of violence with their sports entertainment.
During Game 4 the furry mascot took a small Dodgers blue helmet, placed it on the ground and then pulverized it, much to the delight of the locals. Same tired skits, by the way, they employed a year ago.
But this is considered entertainment here, the only bright spot if they draw the Yankees now, getting a look in the mirror at fans who might remind them of themselves.
I can take a lot, but...
The Phanatic is humorless? C’mon.
“Philly fans are terrible” makes for an easy column for lazy writers. As it has been in the past, and as it will be in the future. Simers is especially idiotic (not just for this column. He’s not exactly a great sportswriter. Plus he manages to be the most annoying person on Around the Horn, which says a lot)
In a positive note, at least he managed to avoid making a Santa Claus reference. That’s an… improvement?
Agreed on all counts. The Philly fans stereotyping article is the epitome of lazy journalism. But I’ve come to expect no less from Simers — he’s pathetic. Between him and Plaschke, L.A. has a duo of awful sportswriters that can rumble with any in the country.
by PhillyFriar on Oct 20, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I find Philly fans to be great…although I don’t wear my Giants gear on the subway!
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by say hey nation on Oct 20, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Its not like the dodgers have enough fans in their stadium to warrant a mascot anyways.
FYI, they are 1 of 4 teams in the majors without a mascot. LAA, LAD, NYY, CHC
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by say hey nation on Oct 20, 2009 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions
God, I’d been searching for that image for months. One of the funniest posts I’ve ever seen on this site was someone who either captioned it or responded to it with the line “Where is your God now, Mr. Met?” I’m still chuckling at that.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 20, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
I will say that the crushing of the blue helmet is very lame.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
The Phanatic does have some pretty tired bits. After 31 years or so, it’s hard to keep it fresh, but as long as you have a tamper, some souvenir batting helmets, and an endless supply of bald and/or fat guys and beautiful women coming to the park, material is always as close as the next section.
I can’t ride him too hard however. A friend of mine told me how he visited a local hospital to see a young patient, who got cold feet, and then, just as he was about to leave the hospital, got warm to the idea. The guy suited back up and went back down to see the kid.
He was at his best this year playing with Jack Nicholson during a regular season game this year. He remains a rumor to the upper deck, which is a bit of a shame, as I don’t believe the upper deck at CBP is anywhere near the quality of the upper deck at the Vet.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 20, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
This is an old trick for Simers. Remember the NLCS last year? Calling us ugly is nice compared to that. We have several of these guys in our papers – they really aren’t worth the effort of paying attention to them. They call him “provocative” and “edgy” at the LA Times, but all that is spin for “total A-hole”.
Here in the Chicago land area, they call guys like that “Rick Morrisey”
by BigPhillyStyle on Oct 20, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
This is just really mean and reminds me of the way I used to deal with minor frustrations in middle school. It bewilders me that something like this was actually printed.
But two things: If he is calling us ugly, isn’t that essentially the pot calling the kettle black. Has HE not looked in the mirror lately? And also, I don’t really care about him calling us ugly. I am comfortable enough with my own appearance (and aware enough of the sheer hideousness of some of my fellow Philadelphians) not to be offended. But it’s not like we have a monopoly on ugliness here.
After all, isn’t L.A. the plastic surgery capital of the world?
by FuquaManuel on Oct 20, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I could be wrong, but I believe Simers attacks L.A. and its residents in a lot of his other columns too so I’m not sure if “frustrated” is exactly the right description. I don’t get the impression that he roots for L.A. teams or loves his own city. I’m not sure if he’s even from there.
It’s basically just shtick – his goal is to be insulting and unfair on purpose. You or I or anyone else who can write competently could do it too if we set our minds to it. The only reason why people like this are relatively scarce is that not many people have a willingness to devote their lives and careers to a pursuit that’s so, well, worthless.
By shtick, I don’t mean that it isn’t sincere on some level. If you choose to live the life that Simers has lived, you eventually come to internalize it and you become your act. Last year, Rich Hoffman wrote a piece in the Daily News that gently scoffed at Simers’ “angry-ville” column, and Simers responded with a column in the LAT angrily attacking Hoffman personally (though not by name). It suggests to me that even within the fraternity of sportswriters, Simers’ act isn’t wink-wink, nudge-nudge. It’s sincere in the sense that this is who he really is. It’s just insincere in that he basically has no pretense that what he writes is for the pursuit of truth. Even as nasty as Bill Conlin is, at least his goal to try to tell the truth.
If he is calling us ugly, isn’t that essentially the pot calling the kettle black. Has HE not looked in the mirror lately?
+1 to this… there are some things you just can’t unsee…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Hi, Chris Hansen, Dateline NBC
Why don’t you have a seat over there for a minute?
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah ok
our cheer “beat LA”
they’re cheer “phillies suck”
now which fans are ‘tasteless’
anyway he just sounds angry that his team is losing & he has to write a childish article to fill his sadness
"Leave Michael Alone!" - said like that Brittany Spears fan on youtube
by sports00fan00 on Oct 20, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Pedro Feliz
How bad do you have to be playing to get pulled because Matt Stairs has a better chance of getting on base than you do?
Never thought I’d long for the days of Dave Hollins again.
with 1 out and no one on
Who has a better chance of hitting a solo homer to tie things up?
EB?
Dobbs?
I know his batting avg sucked this year but he leads the league in PH HR’s (I think this is the only stat that TBS has compiled for the whole Phils team).
If we left off EB and brought up Mayberry I’d probably use him but we needed EB’s speed and playoff beard to get our mojo last night.
I’m surprised to see his OBP is better as a pinch hitter than as a starter this year (.304 vs .386). I certainly get the feeling that he strikes out far too often to justify his HR threat, but 18 walks in 83 PA by a pinch hitter ain’t too shabby. I’d go so far as to say that’s his job for us – scare the pitcher into walking him.
It would be nice, if we recognized that, if we had a track star on the bench to run for him instead of Beardo. But out roster seems to be working just fine right now, so I’ll pipe down.
Well part of it was a lefty/righty matchup. Feliz and Broxton are righty. Stairs is a better matchup. Also, its clear that Broxton (and the Dodgers) still haven’t recovered from what Stairs did last year. Stairs got walked on 4 pitches. Never mind the fact that Feliz never saw a pitch he didn’t like, I doubt he would have gotten 4 balls in a rows.
WOOO!!!!
If yesterday’s game didn’t fill you with unmitigated joy and make you feel like a kid again, you don’t really love baseball (and are probably a terrible person to be around to boot).
J-ROLL!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I mean, EVEN I was jumping up and down a screaming like a mad man after that finish.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 20, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
I was hugging everyone around me in the stadium.
by David S. Cohen on Oct 20, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Like those two 350 pounders next to you? And Guy With Full World Series Outfit in front?
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
In Game 5 news...
Torre named Padilla his starter.
At the risk of being a massive jinx here — I mean, I know he was fantastic in Game 2 — I think this is the first really bad decision Torre’s made all series. What are the odds Padilla replicates that Game 2 performance? Isn’t he vastly more likely to revert to the guy who’s surrendered a .297/.380/.479 line to lefties over the course of his career?
Hamels vs. Padilla at home, with a chance to go back to the Series? I’ll take it.
The only positive is that we won’t have to look at Padilla in the SoCal heat. He seriously looked like a greased pig in his last start.
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by say hey nation on Oct 20, 2009 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Like I said before Game 2, I don’t know that Padilla will be affected too much by presure. But I DO think he will be affected by noise.
Is there a more intimidating crowd in all of baseball than ours? I don’t think so – not Fenway, not the Yankees’, not the Cubs’.
The issue with Fenway and New New (Is that enough?) Yankee stadium is that the price out the really rowdy fans, especially from premier seating areas. The nice thing about Philly is that the ticketed price difference between a seat in section 115 and 432 is about 40 dollars for the playoffs and even less so for the regular season
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by say hey nation on Oct 20, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Additionally, this will cause Torre to use his most effective starter in this series again (on short rest) in our house. I mean Padilla flat out dominated… That’ll leave him with “Wild Thing” Kershaw and Wolf/Kuroda for any potential games 6 or 7. I’ll take those match ups, if we need to go that far. Also, what are the chances Padilla can put together two gems in a row?
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
He either starts Padilla or Ezekiel Kershaw. It’s not like the Dodgers have a true ace, Torre basically has to pick a starter from a list of guys with pretty big issues.
I wouldn’t be surprised if he picks Billingsley to start 6 or 7. He pitched well in relief of Kuroda and the drop off from Kershaw or Wolf to Billingsley is not that big.
I guess the Dodgers don’t have a “true ace” like Cliff Lee, but then again, very few teams do. Kershaw is no slouch — he’s certainly one of the top 10 starters in the National League even now, and despite his struggles in Game 1, I’d feel much better (as a Dodgers fan) with him on the mound than Padilla.
Agreed that Billingsley could wind up taking Kuroda’s spot if it gets that far. He struggled in the second half, but he’s a very good pitcher provided he’s fully healthy.
I think Wolf will pitch Game 7 if it gets there.
Kershaw is definitely better than Padilla, but once they choose their three starters, I don’t think it matters much what order they go in, since they have to win all three games anyway.
That’s a fair point. And maybe Torre figures it’s better to have the veteran with the hot hand pitching on the road instead of the precocious prodigy with control problems. There’s certainly psychology at play here, but I’m thinking of it in the most simple terms: I’d rather have my best pitcher on the mound in the series’ last road game.
As much as we can analyze the decision, I think this is most similar to Torre’s line of reasoning. That’s certainly the criticism he’ll have to face if they lose – “Why didn’t you go with your ‘ace’ in a must-win game?” Can’t imagine many reporters with the mental capacity to make the logical conclusion that they’re all must wins (see Simers, T. J., above).
In that light, I agree that it’s most likely a poor choice.
Did anyone else catch Broxton after the game? Equipment manager should really commandeer his shoe laces and belts until tomorrow…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Rollins & Howard Interview Post-game
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4578982&categoryid=2521705
The good value here is seeing Shane get J-Roll with the pie in the face.
Speaking of photos
The one for this story is a gem. Ruiz has not even fully slid across home plate and you can see the excitement on his face. I love Chooch.
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
by Chris Haines on Oct 20, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree. Even from the 400 level, you could tell his exuberance by his jump-pop-slide. I love him, too.
This is probably my favorite, though.
93 photo
the pics of the team near home plate when ruiz is sliding and going crazy remind me of the all-time classic shot of milt, lenny, dutch & co waiting for krukker to cross home plate in the 10th after the defensive replacement from hell knocked him in. if anyone can dig that photo up, awesome.
by hoboken_dukes79 on Oct 20, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
As silly as it sounds, I get a lot of satisfaction looking through photos of the 1993 team and seeing them wearing the same uniforms we wear now. I was thinking about this while watching a few videos to get excited for a Flyers game a couple weeks ago (you know, the last time they played… we can complain all we want about postseason schedules in the NLDS, but 2 games in 12 days right after the season starts? Unbelievable). With the Flyers adding a new wrinkle to the uniforms they wear regularly almost every season, highlights from the 90s almost look like a different franchise. I hope we have this same logo, colors and pinstripes for years to come.
1993
That’s a great scene – Kim Batiste (defensive replacement from hell) has just doubled in Kruk from second in Game One of the LCS, the one where Schilling was awesome. Batiste came in as a defensive replacement for Hollins at 3rd and immediately made an error to allow the Braves to tie the score in the 9th. By the way, at least one ESPN reference had Howard, with six, tying Mike Schmidt’s record for most postseason homers. Wrong guy. Schmidt had only four postseason homers in 36 games. The record holder (now with Howard) is Lenny Dykstra, in just 12 games from 1993. Two homers in the LCS and four in the World Series. His postseason OPS was 1.179, compared to Howard’s 1.250 this year. Unfortunately for the Dude, that was his last hurrah.
by phillyinportland on Oct 20, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Dru Hill and The Wire are the best things ever to come out of Baltimore. Okay, maybe not Dru Hill…
by FuquaManuel on Oct 20, 2009 7:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
NYT says “Give the Phillies the Respect They Deserve” (although it ends with a bizarre digression about J.C. Romero’s 50-game suspension).
I think the author was reaching for straws there, giving himself an out for supporting a Dodgers (with Manny) vs. Yankees (with A-Rod) World Series, saying: Yeah, but the Phillies had JC Romero suspended, too. A casual reader might equate the three.
by phillyinportland on Oct 20, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
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