Phillies Breakfast Links, October 29, 2009: The Notorious L.E.E., Looking Ahead, Tough Tickets
Acquiring Cliff Lee is priceless for Philadelphia Phillies in World Series Game 1
Yessir!
Thomas Boswell - Chase Utley sets tone for the defending champion Phillies - washingtonpost.com
The most appropriate of all the ornery Phillies -- Chase Utley -- announced his team to Broadway. The gritty second baseman, probably Philly's best all-around player and surely its toughest customer, crashed two home runs off Yankees ace CC Sabathia to set the tone of this night.
Did he have to say "gritty"? What's wrong with "awesome"?
McCaffery: Phillies bring swagger necessary to win
Yeah it's not talent, it's "swagger." Please don't sell the Phillies short.
Win one for Konstanty - Attytood
Will Bunch knocks this out of the park. Great piece.
New Pics: Major League Stars At The World Series - ETOnline.com
If you click on this link, I'll call you a Wetnurse and ban you.
First lady makes pledge if Phillies repeat
No, not a repeat from 1985 and "Just Say No!"
Pedro regrets tossing Zimmer to ground in 2003
"Dwarf tossing" is considered a bias crime.
No sex needed to get her Series tickets
Gah, kill it!!!
PhillyBurbs.com: What is your first Phillies memory?
Mine is losing the 1983 World Series. Neat! What's yours?
John Legend to sing national anthem at World Series
Right after Alicia Keys and Jay-Z jump the shark together before the game (credit to Wet Luzinski for the joke).
Yanks out for revenge after Game 1 defeat
Wow, this is some awful writing.
Imagine, George Steinbrenner building a new baseball cathedral and not having enough room for the press.
But, you got to go to the World Series.
Cardinal Rigali, Archbishop Dolan place bet on World Series
Okay, can we stop this now?
Jay-Z's 'Empire' to be clean for World Series
Is that Jay-Z or Kerwin Danley?
Phillies vs Yankees 2009: Phil and his men struggled in Game 1
Wait, does Phil Hughes have some connection to India that I don't know about?
Cliff's nifty glovework dazzles Yanks
For his next trick, he'll need a volunteer.
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you heard it hear first
that cliff lee nonchalant popup catch will be as iconic to this series as the joe carter homerun was to the BJs in ’93.
by sixrfan on Oct 29, 2009 9:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to ruin Lee's nonchalant catch... (Because it was the funniest thing I've ever seen in a baseball game)...
And the announcers didn’t mention this, but did they call “infield fly” on that play?
by Bye, Dawk :( on Oct 29, 2009 9:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“*PhillyBurbs.com: What is your first Phillies memory? *
Mine is losing the 1983 World Series. Neat! What’s yours?”
Going to the Braves/Phillies game in Atlanta on July 4, 1988. I was 5 years old, and ended up at the Fulton County Stadium infirmary after being injured by fireworks (it was raining, and some rocket fuel wound up in my eye). One of the medics asked who my favorite player was, and went to the dugout and got me a baseball signed by Dale Murphy (my loyalties hadn’t solidifed at that point)
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
by The Dark on Oct 29, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phormat Phail...
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
by The Dark on Oct 29, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my first phillies memory was a game at the vet when i was about 4 or 5 and Schilling was pitching, he threw 8 shut out innings and wasn’t brought back for the ninth
we booed.
by packimop on Oct 29, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sad that you can get your 15 minutes of fame (and a free WS ticket) by become a makeshift prostitute.
Nice read on Konstanty.
NY post article is pretty bad, but hey….it’s the NY Post, whaddya expect?
by Bilzo on Oct 29, 2009 10:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First Phillies memory
Wasn’t a game at all. We were driving to my grandmother’s house in NE Philly when it came on the radio that Mike Schmidt was retiring. If I try really hard I might be able to remember actually seeing him play, but it’s the first really solid memory I had.
The first game was shortly afterward for my 4th birthday. Had the Phunsters come over with confetti and everything.
by Aphilfan on Oct 29, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1) that’s a whole lot of metaphors in George King III’s (really, a guy who’s the III is writing for the Post?) lede. I suspect something with his mention of of Chase Utley’s biceps, though I’m sure left on the editing table were the words “smooth” “masculine” and “powerful,” not that there’s anything wrong with it.
2) Thought MLB would use Legend in Philadelphia. He did go to Penn, after all. But yes, the shark will have been jumped after whatever they put out there will be found lacking in comparison to Billy Joel’s “New York State of Mind.” I mean, book this.
3) Agree on Boswell. Loved “ornery.” Didn’t have to go all gritty.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 29, 2009 10:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Really nice piece by Will Bunch on Konstanty. Rec’d reading.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 29, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Incredible stat here from Jayson Stark about Lee
He now has made four starts in this postseason — the first four postseason starts of his career. In every one of them, he has gone at least seven innings and given up one earned run or none.
In the history of baseball, only one other starting pitcher ever started his postseason career with four starts like that — a Hall of Famer named Christy Mathewson, who did it as recently as a century ago (in 1905-11).
by wildcatlh on Oct 29, 2009 10:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I couldn’t help but think how painful it must have been for an Indians fan to watch last night’s game. And at one point, Fox flashes a graphic of both pitchers with the heading “At Least You’ve Still Got Lebron.” I thought that was totally classless. But hey, it is Fox after all.
by Boundforbeach on Oct 29, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cleveland really gets too much flack for all that. They absolutely did the right thing in trading Sabathia because they were going to lose him anyway, and they got a good return for him. There was just no way they were going to afford him. The Lee trade was more questionable, but I personally don’t think the return they got was that bad. It’s become fashionable to crap on Carlos Carrasco and co. because they supposedly had down years, but since when is it a good idea to buy high? Aren’t you supposed to buy low? Carrasco is still a good prospect, in my view.
by taco pal on Oct 29, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm…can anybody tell me who Cleveland got for CC?
I have no idea. That makes me think it wasn’t a great trade. If I didn’t follow Philly sports, I’d have no idea come next season who they got for Lee. At least when the Twins ditched Santana, I think they got Carlos Gomez in return. Not that he’s great, but I at least know who he is.
by Bilzo on Oct 29, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matt LaPorta
And he’s awesome.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 29, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, LaPorta’s awesome. And Michael Brantley was the PTBNL and is a really nice player — he .315/.358/.348 in a cup of coffee this September, and projects as a contact-oriented center fielder with little power but impressive plate discipline.
But taco pal is right about the haul Cleveland got from the Phils. I thought they did well to buy low on Carrasco, and Knapp looks like a future power reliever at the very worst, and a potential front line starter at best. I’d probably have insisted on Michael Taylor in lieu of Marson and Donald, though — especially since Marson will only be keeping the seat warm until uberprospect Carlos Santana is ready.
Let me put it this way: the Indians got as much as the Twins got for Johan, if not more. Carlos Gomez may be flashy, but with a career .297 OBP, he’s not a starter; Phil Humber’s arm has fallen off; Kevin Mulvey was at least turned into Jon Rauch; and Deolis Guerra is still a huge wild card.
by PhillyFriar on Oct 29, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Indians have done well in their trades. If I remember correctly, they caught a lot of flack for trading Bartolo Colon for similar reasons. They happened to get some guys called Brandon Phillips, Grady Sizemore, and Cliff Lee.
Matt LaPorta projects very high. And Carrasco, Marson, Donald, and Knapp all project as serviceable major league players. Knapp could be a frontline starter.
The only questionable trade the Indians made was with Victor Martinez. I’m not sure they really needed to trade him. But they did get Justin Masterson in return, who has very good stuff.
by The R on Oct 29, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know this is blasphemy...
but am I the only one who secretly wishes that Charlie would have given the ball to Cole for game 2?
I know he said he didn’t want to pitch lefties back to back, but that didn’t stop him from doing it against the Rockies. And I’m not really buying the whole Pedro is better suited mentally for the challenge of Yankee stadium. What, and Cole isn’t experienced on the big stage? Are his home vs away stats that markedly different? If you accept the premise that Cole is the second best pitcher on this staff (and I do), then he should be starting tonight IMHO.
by Boundforbeach on Oct 29, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cole's splits are ridiculous
Home: 17 starts, 7-5, 3.76 ERA, 95 hits, 44 earned runs, 103 K, 1.120 WHIP, 8.8 K/9, batters are .241/.283/.406 against
Away: 15 starts, 3-6, 4.99 ERA, 111 hits, 49 earned runs, 65 K, 1.483 WHIP, 6.6 K/9, batters are .308/.349/.478 against
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
by The Dark on Oct 29, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d thought about this as well, with Cole pitching better at home. Doesn’t really matter. They’re both going to pitch a game.
by Bilzo on Oct 29, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just feeling greedy. Putting the Yanks in an 0-2 hole going back to CBP would completely demoralize them. I just thought Cole would give them the best chance to do that, but if his splits are that bad, well then maybe its the right call. I sure hope Pedro can deliver. It’s going to be a wild scene tonite with him on the mound.
by Boundforbeach on Oct 29, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pedro's splits (SSS warning):
Home: 5 games, 2-0, 1.88 ERA, 20 hits, 5 earned runs, 22 K, 1.000 WHIP, 8.3 K/9, batters are .225/.274/.427
Away: 4 games, 3-1, 5.66 ERA, 28 hits, 13 earned runs, 15 K, 1.548 WHIP, 6.5 K/9, batters are .322/.362/.517
Pedro’s splits look even worse, but bear in mind the sample size is ridiculously small – 9 starts versus 32. The BABIP split is also unreasonable – .254 at home, .357 away. His two high scoring games away were at Turner Field and Citi Field. The two low scoring away games were the ChiCubs and the Nats.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
by The Dark on Oct 29, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was a the the turner field game. dink after dink after dink to RF.
by Bilzo on Oct 29, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Memory
I don’t know about my first memory, but I know my best one… as a child going to game 2 of the ‘80 world series. Yes, I’m pretty old.
by The R on Oct 29, 2009 12:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m thrilled the Phillies made it back to the WS this year. For me, it’s a bit of a mulligan. Last year I was moving into a new house the day after the WS started. I missed the first 2 games almost completely due to the actual act of moving. I knew I would, but I wanted to make sure I could catch the rest of the series. I called Time Warner and ordered a cable hookup for Saturday. Problem was, I never paid attention to which Saturday I scheduled it for. I scheduled it for the Saturday after the WS was to wrap up.
I spent the next 3 games going to Buffalo Wild Wings, listening on the radio then for Game 5 I watched at a chain restaurant (forget which, there’s like 10 of them across the street from me and they all blur together). When the game got called for rain with the remaining innings being payed Wednesday night (if I remember correctly), I decided to go to a sports bar I found down the street.
Now, I live just outside Raleigh, NC. No one here really cares about the Phillies, but its a sports bar and baseball’s a sportso I figured it would be on. It wasn’t, I asked twice for them to put it on the big screen and they finally did. The game started and then so did Karaoke night. I had to watch the rest of the game with idiots singing (mostly) crappy country songs. I hate country music with the passion of a thousand suns, but I had to listen to it. The one advantage: drunks are frankly just as good at singing country as the pros.
When the Phillies finally recorded the last out, some poor bastard, who was taking his karaoke as seriously as a doctor performing brain surgery, was singing John Lennon’s ‘Imagine’ while my wife and I jumped up and down screaming at the top of our lungs facing the opposite direction at the Phillies win. Sucked for him, but a great moment for me.
This year, I have cable.
by Cormican on Oct 29, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cormican-what bar did you go to? I work in Morrisville and live in Pittsboro.
by Bilzo on Oct 29, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget the name, It’s on 64 in Raleigh, by the Sheetz.
I have a rental property in Morrisville over on Morrisville-Carpenter Rd.
by Cormican on Oct 29, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Rosenheck writes in the NYT that starting Pedro tonight is a mistake.
Frankly, his argument makes very little sense. Even if you were to stipulate that all of his facts are right, both Hamels and Martinez are still guaranteed to pitch one game, right? So who cares if they’re out of order?
I suppose that the odds that Hamels will make a second start will be smaller than the odds that Martinez will make a second start. But again, so what? If we’re not facing elimination, then either Pedro’s game will clinch the Series or Hamels will get to pitch a second game too. And if we are facing elimination, then both guys would have to pitch and win anyway.
This is just a case of a writer who’s so intent on showing off his statistical insights that he loses sight of the fact that his argument has to be logical too.
by taco pal on Oct 29, 2009 2:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s more of a panic mode on NYC press.
“The enemy beat us in the first battle. Write stuff that makes them look stupid and weak”
by Bilzo on Oct 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of panic mode
I read the NY Post article linked above (Yanks out for revenge) and voted in the poll on whether I felt the Yankees were in trouble or felt the Yankees would bounce back and win it all. I expected most “Yankee fans” to display confidence, but the poll results said 81% in trouble to 19% confident. Amazing what one home loss does to a city’s swagger.
by phillyinportland on Oct 29, 2009 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can tell that he hasn’t actually been watching the phillies’ games (no surprise) this year and has to back up his argument with numbers rather than first hand accounts of SEEING something. The higher average with balls in play is because THEYVE BEEN HIT HARDER due to Hamels MISSING HIS SPOTS, not due to luck. And he’s talking about Pedro having an 89mph fastball, I’ve seen pedro throwing fastballs that registered at 92mph with pinpoint accuracy, something Hamel’s has lacked
by packimop on Oct 29, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he really has been unlucky. The correct counterargument is that it doesn’t matter who starts Game Two, as long as they’re both scheduled to make two starts.
by taco pal on Oct 29, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you can’t tell me he’s the same as last year besides the luck, he just doesn’t seem to have it when it matters most. I go back to August, he had a couple really good starts in a row, then proceeded to be mediocre against the Astros, then not have another good start the rest of the year.
But i completely agree with you that it doesn’t matter whether Pedro pitches game two or game three, he’s going to pitch two games nonetheless.
by packimop on Oct 29, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe it was early september, I don’t know
by packimop on Oct 29, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Susan Finklestein, PR professional
There are just so many questions here. Imagine you’re her boss. Do you:
1) double-check the receipts for entrance to the Wistar Institute?
2) wonder why she can’t generate this kind of media attention for her employer,
3) hope that she never does, or
4) don’t wait to find out?
I’m thinking all four.
by Wet Luzinski on Oct 29, 2009 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So many questions
I’m particularly curious what Caspar Wistar’s Quaker ancestors would think about who works at their boy’s institute.
by phillyinportland on Oct 29, 2009 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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