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Hooverville!: Phillies 7, Marlins 6 (10)

Something strange happened over the course of three and a half hours of seemingly meaningless baseball on Sunday afternoon: I started to care whether the Phillies won this game. Maybe it was listening to the Marlins announcers, who deliver the sort of relentless and obnoxious boosterism I imagine one heard in mid-size midwestern towns around 1928. Maybe it was the ongoing redemption of Miguel Cairo, who made his last, best case for a spot on the postseason roster with a homer and a triple. Maybe it was just annoyance at the flat performances the Phils had turned in since clinching the division Wednesday night. Maybe it was a desire to see this year's team surpass last year's win total.  

Whatever my reason, it seemed like the team gradually got into it too. They fell behind 2-0, 5-2, and 6-5, and came back every time, finally putting away the Marlins on a tenth-inning RBI single by third string catcher Paul Hoover off the glove of Florida's Wes Helms that scored John Mayberry Jr. Both players, who actually came off the bench during the game, are very unlikely to see the field again this October; but they, like fellow reserves Cairo, Eric Bruntlett, Greg Dobbs and Ben Francisco, played with a lot more energy than most of the Phils' regulars have shown since last week's clincher. (Francisco's three caught stealings, two on overslides of the second base bag, remind us that energy isn't everything, but still.) The one regular who did play was Jayson Werth, who couldn't pick up his 100th RBI--the Marlins intentionally walked him with Mayberry on second in the 10th--but did steal two bases to finish with 20 on the season. 

On the pitching side, J.A. Happ allowed the obligatory two first-inning runs, pitched a scoreless second, and then took a seat. Kyle Kendrick started strongly with two scoreless innings, but allowed three runs in the fifth. Clay Condrey and Brett Myers recorded one out each, Sergio Escalona worked an inning and two-thirds, and Jack Taschner, Scott Eyre and Chad Durbin each pitched a scoreless frame as Charlie Manuel auditioned pretty much every reliever on the bubble for a first-round playoff roster spot. 

Rockies manager Jim Tracy announced this afternoon that Ubaldo Jiminez is likely to be his Game One starter; the Phillies have yet to choose between Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels for the start of the Division Series on Wednesday. 

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DOOMED

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by jemagee on Oct 4, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

no, the blue type on the white background represents the NL East. White on red is the WS.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 4, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m talking about on this blog – with the questino mark – that’s white on red – DOOMED I tell you

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by jemagee on Oct 4, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is the culprit :)

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by jemagee on Oct 4, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

totally missed that. Agree w/you. Premature.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 4, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

THERE’S A QUESTION MARK IT’S NOT A DEFINITIVE STATEMENT

GOLLY

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 4, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think of it as a plea

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 4, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay. hypothetical flags fly for some time, then.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 4, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hope this isn’t like a couple years ago.

I wasn't even a year old but I stayed up to be outside the Vet with my Dad and Mom when the Phillies won the World Series 1980.

by Christopher A on Oct 4, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

No reliever in the game threw a 1-2-3 inning. Can we just get one clean inning? Please?!?

by philiafan14364 on Oct 4, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

one step at a time – no runs is fine for me

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by jemagee on Oct 4, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prince

Fielder got two homers and three RBIs today to tie Ryan Howard for the RBI lead for the season. It left him one HR short of Pujols (and one ahead of Howard). When Fielder came up in the 10th inning with a runner on second base, Cardinals pitcher Todd Wellemeyer intentionally walked him, preserving Pujols’ undisputed home run title and Howard’s tie for the RBI lead.
You have to give Fielder some credit for finishing with a flourish when he hit the second homer in the ninth inning in what was likely his last at-bat of the season.

by phillyinportland on Oct 4, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m sure it increased his trade value

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by jemagee on Oct 4, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I still don’t want to have his knees in ten years. Push away.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 4, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

WE’RE GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS!!

by vfb on Oct 4, 2009 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

2:30 starts

games 1&2. Long shadows, nasty traffic, chance of showers Wed before 2 pm. It’s as if a network with an ownership interest in our archrivals had something to do with this.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 5, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Are you insinuating that ownership of TBS would be displeased if a team such as the Phillies did something the Braves couldn’t do, to wit, win two World Series?

by phillyinportland on Oct 5, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt the network’s biases have much to do with it. FOX, ESPN, [whoever] probably would have done the same thing. It’s to accommodate Yankees/Red Sox hype.

by taco pal on Oct 5, 2009 10:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

In terms of fan base / national drawing power outside their home town – is there a weaker playoff team than the rockies?

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by jemagee on Oct 5, 2009 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you could make a case that whichever team wins the AL Central is less prominent. I happen to love the Twins, but few others do, and Detroit isn’t a high-profile team.

by dajafi on Oct 5, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d say they’re about equal (Rockies vs. AL Central teams).

Not that it matters that much. In the minds of network executives, there are only three tiers. (1) Yankees and Red Sox. (2) A very small handful of “middle class” teams, which I think is limited to the Dodgers, Cubs, Mets, and maybe the Cardinals. (3) Everyone else.

by taco pal on Oct 5, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top attendance matters?

Interesting that the teams you list plus the Phillies and the Angels, make up the top 8 teams in attendance this year. I’d say there definitely is a drop-off after those teams in national prominence: Brewers, Giants, Rockies and Tigers are the next four, with the Twins coming in at number 15.
Last year’s AL champs? The Tampa Bay Rays averaged 23,147 and ranked 23rd out of the 30 clubs.

by phillyinportland on Oct 6, 2009 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Are you looking at home attendance or away attendance.

Check out the Rays when the Red Sox come to town..hell check out most AL teams when the red sox come to town – there’s usually a bump in attendance.

Home attendance is not really any indicator of a teams national draw – away attendance however…

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by jemagee on Oct 6, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are definitely some differences but most of the top home teams on attendance (that’s what I was giving) do well on the road. For what it’s worth, the top road team draw was the Cubs – what does that say? The teams in the top 8 at home but not on the road? That would be the Phillies, who are only 13th in average road attendance and, quite strangely, the Angels, who rank dead last, #30, in road attendance. So who moves into the higher ranks on the road: the Giants (#5) and, brace yourself, the Braves (#8). But I think road attendance is a definite mixture of an appealing team and/or a home team that draws well. The Washington Nationals are #11 on the road, ahead of such teams as the Phillies, the Rockies, and the Brewers. I doubt the Nationals have a larger national draw than those three teams.

by phillyinportland on Oct 7, 2009 2:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

One thing to consider is this, that against the weaker teams, the home team is more apt to have a promotional giveaway or discounted tickets to draw more fans to those games. Just look at our schedule and you can see where we have done the same thing.

by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Oct 7, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well there’s a (weak) argument that since the tigers and twins have existed longer they’d be a bigger national draw.

But either way they’re playing the yankees – so yankees – anyone probably trumps national draw (to broadcasters) of phillies rockies.

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by jemagee on Oct 5, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

True, Yankees vs. anyone is top-tier in the eyes of network execs. But in a vacuum I think the Rockies, as the only team (I think…) for hundreds of miles in any direction might be more of a draw than the AL Central winner.

by dajafi on Oct 5, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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