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Three Up, Three Down: Reasons The Phillies Will Win (or Lose) Tonight

The Phillies faced their first elimination game in two years on Monday night and prevailed.  Can they do it again tonight?  Here are three reasons they will, and three reasons they won't:

The Good

1) Road Warriors.  The Phillies were tied with the Angels for the best road team in baseball this year.  The Phillies went 48-33, with a +70 run differential away from CBP this year.  The Phillies have played five games at Yankee Stadium so far this year, and have outscored the Yankees 22-15.  Their record at Yankee Stadium is 3-2 in those five games, but the two losses were incredibly close, one coming on a Brad Lidge blown save and another despite Pedro Martinez's gem last week.

2) Rested and ready.  Despite some criticism, Charlie Manuel's decision to keep his pitchers on normal rest could pay off huge.  Pedro Martinez, on 5 days rest, is going up against Andy Pettitte, on 3 days rest.  Martinez has always been at his best when he's on regular 4 or 5 day rest.  When he gets too much rest, 6 days or more, his game suffers.  Batters hit him better (a .070 jump in OPS on his career, about a .200 jump this year) and he gives up more runs (his ERA jumps about 1.00 on his career, about 3.00 this year).  Martinez is in his sweet spot going on 5 days rest.  On the other hand, Pettitte will be challenged on 3 days rest.  For his career, Pettitte is only slightly worse on 3 days rest compared to regular rest.  But, here's the rub -- he hasn't pitched on 3 days rest since 2006, when he was 34.  The body works differently at 37.

3) Righty power. The Phillies right-handed hitters can demolish Pettitte.  Even though Pettitte had a small reverse platoon split this year (.730 OPS for lefties, .717 for righties) and just a very small platoon split for his career (.728 OPS for righties, .711 for lefties), the Phillies righties have demolished Pettitte in the past.  It's all on the small to miniscule sample size end of the spectrum, but the results have been great.  Including the post-season, Jayson Werth has a .188/.188/750 line with 3 home runs in 16 plate appearances, Pedro Feliz has a .300/.462/.400 line in 13 plate appearances, Ben Francisco has a .400/.500/.400 line in 6 plate appearances, and Carlos Ruiz has a .500/.667/1.250 line in 6 plate appearances.  The Phillies' switch hitters have not done well but have held their own against Pettitte, with Shane Victorino posting a .375/.333/.375 line in 9 plate appearances and Jimmy Rollins a .250/.286/.400 line in 21 plate appearances.

The Bad

1) Hometown heroes.  The Yankees had the best home record in baseball, at 57-24.  Since July 1, the Yankees are even better, with a 35-10 record at home.  They'll be returning to their home crowd with a chance to win their first World Series at home since 1999.  For most franchises, that's not that long of a time between opportunities.  For Yankees fans, that's three lifetimes.

2) Lefty troubles.  It's been well documented how poorly the Phillies' lefties not named Chase Utley have performed this Series.  It gets worse when you look at how they've performed historically against Pettitte.  Ryan Howard and Chase Utley have a combined 2 singles, 8 strikeouts, and 1 walk against him in 23 career plate appearances.  Raul Ibanez has been better, but not much.  Thanks to playing most of his career in the AL, he has 25 plate appearances against Pettitte, in which he's put up a .250/.280/.417 line with 1 home run, 7 strikeouts, and no walks.

3) DH.  Shane Victorino will be a game time decision tonight.  If he's not able to make it because of his sore finger, the Phils will be forced to play Francisco in center, keep Ibanez in left, and DH either Eric Bruntlett or Matt Stairs.  Bruntlett has had a truly awful year this year, and Stairs has been a non-existent hitter since July 1 (.082/.274/.245 line for the last three months of the season).  They are a combined 0 for 10 lifetime against Pettitte.  With the DH adding Hideki Matsui to the Yankees' lineup, if the Phillies counter with Bruntlett or Stairs, they're in big trouble.

The Outcome

With six hours to go until game time, these are the important factors that could influence this game.  All in all, I think Pettitte's short rest combined with the righty dominance the Phillies have shown over him will win the day, and we'll see a Game 7 battle tomorrow night.  Here's hoping....

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My only concern with Pedro is that his last two outings, which wwere very good were not on ‘normal’ rest as much as they were on 2 weeks rest (approx) between starts. He had two stints this year when he pitched on ‘normal’ rest – when he first started, and he was good, and then a second stint where he wasn’t so good…it’s all small sample size I know but I don’t have as much confdence in pedro tonight as I do in game 2.

Of course – I’d like the offense to stop doing the Pedro Vanishing Act trick

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I was a little worried too b/c I thought it was only 4 days rest

It’s only 1 day, but at his age and lack of action this year, I have a little bit more confidence in him with that extra days rest.

by Screen Name 20 on Nov 4, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

well like I said, I have confidence, but not if it were the two weeks rest he had between the dodgers start and the like 10 days to the yankees start…old folks take longer to heals

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I agree

I just hope we can get to Pettite early and often to give Pedro some slack.

by Screen Name 20 on Nov 4, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, here’s hoping chase breaks that record as early as possible :) ANd that rollins and shane remember that walks and patience aren’t bad things

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 2:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

HEY!

I resemble that remark. Watch it, young man. Now let’s go out and #*@% ’em up good tonight.

by vendor71 on Nov 4, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If 71 is your year of birth – you’v eonly got one year on me

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My big thing with Pedro in this game is that you can’t leave him in too long—as Manuel did in Game Two and has a few times this season. (One of the beat guys on philly.com somewhat makes this point in his blog today.) If he makes it through six innings with the Phils still in the game, you take that and run away cackling: between his age, possible fatigue concerns, and the fact that by then the Yankee hitters will have seen him 5-6 times each in this Series, going any further would be courting disaster.

by dajafi on Nov 4, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I thik that’s where the ‘players manager’ thing bites him in the butt…it looked like (and fox commentators said so) that Charlie went to Pedro in game 2 and asked him and pedro said ’i’m good’ – so charlie believed him and sent him back out there – in a grady little like mistake.

Don’t trust pedro – if you think it’s time to pull him Charlie – pull him

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, he sure didn’t do that with Vic.

by Cormican on Nov 4, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well according to others on this board Charlie had visible evidence that contradicted Victorino (couldn’t grip bat or ball) – no real evidence to contradict pedro saying he’s ‘fine’ except when he goes out an pitches badly.

I mean sure, COle Hamels, Andy Pettite, they’ll whine about being done, but what kind of REAL baseball player is going to say ‘sorry skip, i’m done’

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 3:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You said ‘its small sample size’ – isn’t most of our data regarding how a pitcher performs on varying amounts of rest pretty small? It’s been out of vogue for a while to start your pitchers on anything less than normal rest, I wonder how much reliable data we really have on it.

Looking at all the blabbering in the media about rest this and that, I really wonder how much of it is just made up. As far as I can tell, one guy has done it successfully over at least the past few years and we assume he’s the only one who’s able to do it. I won’t go Gibson on you and say that everyone should pitch on 2 days like the good ole days, but I do wonder about the validity of it all…

by Steve J on Nov 4, 2009 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Training

To me it’s more a question of what the body is trained to do. For Pettitte, over the last three years, his body has been trained to perform every 5th or 6th day. It’s not to say that he can’t pitch well every 4th day, it’s just that that’s not what his training has been geared toward.

by David S. Cohen on Nov 4, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh God...

If I see Eric Bruntlett as the DH, I might immediately just throw up all over myself without warning.

by Bye, Dawk :( on Nov 4, 2009 2:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The hell with it

Let’s just DH Bret Myers if it comes to that.

by Cormican on Nov 4, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

DH Joltin' Joe Blanton

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 4, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Dude hamels has a career OPS of 2.000 against him – cole all the way

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 3:00 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

and move him to clean up. lol

by Cormican on Nov 4, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's a violation

He’s our good luck charm. He can only be inserted as a pinch runner to score game tying / winning runs.

by Screen Name 20 on Nov 4, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t suppose of the available options anyone ran the small sample size data of performance against Monsieur Pettite? Being in both the AL and NL for a few years I would think almost everyone got some hacks at him?

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 2:26 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your question, but isn’t that included in my last point? If it’s not, you can see Pettitte’s career performance against all current Phillies, including in the playoffs, here.

by David S. Cohen on Nov 4, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that’s kind of what i was asking – so either Hamels or Francisco should DH tonight then huh? :)

Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned

by jemagee on Nov 4, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Jayson Werth has a .188/.188/750 line with 3 home runs in 16 plate appearances

Is Werth’s slash line correct? 3 /16 with 3 homers and no walks?

by Screen Name 20 on Nov 4, 2009 2:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ha, that’s pretty crazy.

by taco pal on Nov 4, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

All-or-nothing Werth

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Nov 4, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs


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