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It's a bad signing by them

They spent ~28% of their available money (assuming a $95 million payroll with ~$70 million already on the books) on an old, injury-prone reliever who will pitch in only 5% of his team’s innings… if he’s healthy and productive all year.

Their more pressing needs are at first base and in the outfield. Right now, they’re still not a .500 team even with Wagner, and I like that Frank Wren is starting this off-season off on the wrong foot.

by Crashburn Alley on Dec 2, 2009 7:30 AM EST reply actions  

There are very few teams willing to forego having a Proven Closer™ and clearly the Braves aren’t one of them. Wagner should do a nice job for them, but the cost isn’t ideal for their needs.

Still, I think they’re easily a .500 team right now even with replacement players at first base and in left field. That starting staff is damn impressive, and I expect some sort of rebound from Chipper and Kelly Johnson along with eventual contributions from Jason Heyward. If they manage upgrades at their two openings, I’ll be scared stiff of them come next year.

by PhillyFriar on Dec 2, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Didnt Chipper say he might call it quits next year?

by philiafan14364 on Dec 2, 2009 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Chipper is in a phase similar to late-1980s Mike Schmidt, in that he is openly wondering if he can compete at a level he’s comfortable with (he didn’t ask me, but I’m very comfortable with the 2009 version). Depending on the Braves’ organizational depth, there may be no imminent move they can make, especially given his franchise player-like status. And the caution is understandable—declining years of Mike Schmidt may well have been very similar to what Rick Schu and Charlie Hayes were able to put up.

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 2, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

He said last year that if he has another season this year like last, he’s hanging it up. I won’t miss him.

by doubleh on Dec 2, 2009 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Rick Schu, there’s name I haven’t heard in about 20 years.

by Cormican on Dec 2, 2009 9:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Definitely convenient if nothing else, like when they got Drew or TO went to the Cowboys.

by dajafi on Dec 2, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah, at this point in his career Billy Wagner is not worth the 20th pick in the draft.

by Cormican on Dec 2, 2009 2:33 PM EST up reply actions  

My hatred for the Braves has waned a lot since they stopped being really good a few years back. My hatred for Wagner, however, has not. So I’m looking forward to hating the Braves more in the future.

by taco pal on Dec 2, 2009 11:14 AM EST reply actions  

I live in Braves country, and I’ve only got a couple friends who pull for them. I also don’t detest the Braves like I used to, ever since Maddux and Glavine quit getting the 4’ wide strike zone.

I can only wait for the first public feud in the press between Wags and Larry.

by Bilzo on Dec 2, 2009 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

For what it’s worth, the folks over at Talking Chop seem to love the move.

by taco pal on Dec 2, 2009 12:39 PM EST reply actions  

He’ll neutralize the Phillies lineup, apparently. And we all know being able to neutralize one team’s lineup for 3 or 4 innings per year is a great argument for spending $7 M and the #20 pick on a 39 year old pitcher who spent most of 2009 on the DL and was waived (subsequently traded) by a sub .500 team.

by Cormican on Dec 2, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder why they think that? Wagner has blown a few saves against the Phils already and certainly has it in him to blow some more. Even though it is a small sample size, he’s shown a tendency to blow games against his former ballclubs when the game is important. Can’t wait to see what happens when he faces the Mets to see if this still holds true.

by doubleh on Dec 2, 2009 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if it’s an A-Rod type agreement?

by Bilzo on Dec 2, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

well, now that we have Schneider, we have the ideal guy to steal signs and tip pitches to!

by Wet Luzinski on Dec 2, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions  

They already accuse the Phils of that anyway! LOL

by doubleh on Dec 2, 2009 8:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, if that’s true, they’re screwed against half the division.

by Cormican on Dec 2, 2009 9:11 PM EST up reply actions  

first you need a solid offense in order to have a guy save them games.
I would have focused more on the bat, but hey thats the Braves for ya

by MalibuLSV23 on Dec 2, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

they did pretty well with just their pitching for about 13 years.

by Bilzo on Dec 2, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I see the Braves just signed Takashi Saito.

by taco pal on Dec 4, 2009 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

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