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Sweet Lou is here, he comes bearing the future

The air smells a little sweeter in Pennsylvania right now, and I think I know why.

While some less-enlightened folk point to the arrival of spring, I sadly shake my head in disagreement. What's really happening is the coronation of the newest king of the Phillies. King Lou is here, and he is not leaving (hopefully).

Just for fun, let's take a look at his numbers and projections, as well as how they stack up against the lovable Chooch, best known for his prowess at blocking Lidge sliders in the dirt and GIDPs.

Marson:

2007 (A+): .373 OBP, .120 ISO, .346 BABIP, 11.7% BB, 20.4% K, 28.3% XBH

2008 (AA): .433 OBP, .102 ISO, .389 BABIP, 17.4% BB, 21.7% K, 22.8% XBH

2009 (MLB Bill James-171 AB): .392 OBP, .106 ISO, .362 BABIP, 14.1% BB, 22.2% K, 24% XBH

Now, James' numbers are a little high, but the other FanGraphs projections all have him in the ballpark of a .350 OBP. (CHONE-.348, Marcel-.353, Oliver-.347, ZiPS-.336)

Let's examine these numbers a little bit. You can probably attribute the insane 2008 OBP to the huge BABIP, but his walks increased substantially and his strikeouts stayed almost flat as he made the biggest jump in the minors. That is more than just a small deal...it is a big heap of hitting skill. The power, as shown by the painfully bad ISO, is a concern...but my feelings on his power are:

(1) It will come with time. As he gets older and stronger, his bat speed will improve, resulting in more distance off the bat.

(2) Even if it doesn't come, he's proven he's such a skilled hitter he can be a valuable basepath-clogger even if he only ever hits singles.

James thinks his power will increase a tad, but is still projecting a very high BABIP. This probably stems from Marson's swing -- he is a true line drive hitter who sprays to all fields and doesn't elevate the ball frequently. It's possible the power could come as he gets stronger and improves his bat speed, a la Chase Utley, but he will still be valuable without double digit home run power. That's because the Phillies currently run this guy out there:

Ruiz:

career (MLB): .329 OBP, .116 ISO, .263 BABIP, 10.6% BB, 12.3% K, 32.4% XBH, 49.9% GB, 77 OPS+

This is not to bash away at Carlos. He's a wonderful backstop, and I would love to see the Phils keep him around as a backup as long as he's affordable (since his original signing bonus was $8,000, he's been the ultimate bargain ballplayer). He is great on defense, blocks the plate well, hustles his butt off and is an all-around good guy (and he gets dirt on his uniform, which gives Bill Plaschke a massive erection). But he is simply not a good offensive player.

While his awful average last year was partially because of an outrageously low .237 BABIP, the fact that his career number in that department is .263 means it wasn't that fluky.

And we all know why it wasn't THAT fluky: a career groundball rate of 1/2. That means a lot of outs, some singles, and a home run every once in a while. His OPS+ is far below league average, and I imagine it is in the neighborhood of replacement level for his career

As far as defense goes, Ruiz is one of the best, but Marson is said to be no slouch. He is an excellent natural athlete, and the scouting reports indicate he is at least average with room to improve. He also threw out 35% of basestealers last year, a good sign.

Conclusion:

With an aging, strikeout-prone lineup, the Phils are in desperate need of some semblance of offense from the catcher spot. Marson is a patient hitter (with possibly developing power) who is on base frequently who will give the Phightins more than league average offense from the 8-hole. I think his ceiling is Kendall-esque if he doesn't develop power, and Martin- or McCann-esque if he does. All in all, I'm excited what he can do over the next couple of weeks.

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"valuable basebath-clogger"

I love it.

Seriously, I’ve heard anecdotal reports that Marson hits a lot of hard line drives and hits well to all fields, which is a good sign for future power.

by phatj on Apr 12, 2009 7:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we stop with the "Sweet Lou" though?

I hate that every player named Lou is “Sweet Lou” or (for Eds, “Fast Eddie”). Enough already.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Apr 12, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahahha

"In a couple of weeks or a month, I'll be excited about this team," Dawkins said. "I've got to get used to saying that -- I'm a Bronco." Then he paused. "I'll tell you one thing -- I'll always be an Eagle."

by exitfare on Apr 13, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice piece. I’m not sure all analysts share your optimism on Marson’s bat, or if that offensive upside balances out what Ruiz brings to the table as far as game-calling and glovework. My guess is that Marson won’t keep the job right now unless he goes absolutely crazy with the bat over the next two weeks. But this experience should stand him in very good stead down the road and maybe accelerate his takeover from, say, next April to this August.

by dajafi on Apr 12, 2009 1:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s true that the power is a concern. My thought process is that even without the power his plate discipline is good enough to OBP at least in .350-.360 range (and hit .270-.280), which already places him into the upper echelon of catchers in that department. The bar is set so low for catchers offensively that very little is required out of the position to get above league-average.

I’ll be curious to see if the Phils tinker with his swing to get a little more uppercut on it. If it’s something that concerns them as much as the SABR community, it’s not out of the question.

by Governator on Apr 12, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a Sunday day-game, which is usually the realm of the back up catcher. Here’s to hoping he gets the start today.

Let the Lounacy begin.

by RodeoJones on Apr 12, 2009 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Phillies

care not for Chris Coste’s knees

by Governator on Apr 12, 2009 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps

Today at 3 then?

by RodeoJones on Apr 13, 2009 7:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

greetings from new york phillies fans

ur predictions for this year……..?

by trueblue08 on Apr 13, 2009 6:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lou went 2-3 in his first game since being called up. This kid has talent.
With Ruiz injury maybe more serious then originally thought, I think Lou will take over the top spot from Chris Coste (great story, and not a bad back up) while Carlos is on the DL, My prediction is Lou, baring injury, will be the main guy by next year for the Phillies if not sooner.

by LAPhillyPhan on Apr 17, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Apparently 2-3 with a double isn’t good enough to cement playing time over the sub-Mendoza-hitting Coste. (Of course, Coste had himself a good game last night, going 2-4 with a double, but still.)

by phatj on Apr 18, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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