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Ryan Howard's Quality Start

Everybody is talking about the improvements in Ryan Howard's game this season, particularly his defense.  Also striking is that, to this point in the season, Howard has avoided the slow starts that dogged him in 2007 and 2008, and kept his season statistics in the category of "merely very good" rather than "incredible."

After 29 games in 2009:

.287/.364/.539, with 6 home runs.

Not MVP numbers by any stretch, but definitely solid.  Nothing to complain about.

However, in the previous two seasons, there was plenty to complain about...

At the same point in 2007:

.204/.380/.429, with 6 home runs.

And in 2008:

.184/.303/.388, with (again) 6 home runs.

 

And what about 2006, his brain-bashing MVP campaign?

.317/.378/.558, with 8 home runs.

Thusfar, Howard's 2009 numbers at this point in the season most closely resemble his 2006 numbers, with a lower OBA primarily comprised of a difference in AVG, most of which can probably be attributed to the extreme shift now employed against him.

His home run swing seems to be fairly consistent from season to season at this point, before he catches fire sometime in the summer.  Where Howard defines his season-end value is in his non-HR plate appearances, and he's doing a much better job there this season than in the previous two.

It's far too early in the season to draw any meaningful conclusions, but if Howard can continue his trend as a late season monster (for his career, his second half numbers are .302/.414/.637), we may very well see Ryan Howard hoist a second MVP trophy.  There's a lot to overcome, of course (see: Pujols, Albert), but overall, the sky is the limit.

Now if only he could pitch...

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I love it. And it’s a good use of stats to make your point that Howard is going to get his power numbers pretty much no matter what, but it’s the “non-HR” ABs that separate an MVP year from a “really good but all those strikeouts are frustrating” year.

by BigPhillyStyle on May 12, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I read the headline and I thought, by some crazy coincidence, that the Phillies had a game last night that I had no clue about and a pitcher named Ryan Howard that I had no clue about threw a quality start. Needless to say I was disappointed. : )

by FuquaManuel on May 12, 2009 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

some numbers

The Hardball Times indicates that Howard has enjoyed a big BABIP spike from last year—up to .351 from .285. His line drive rate is actually well down from last year (16.9 percent from 22.3) and his ground-ball percentage is the highest it’s ever been at 47 percent. What I find most surprising is that his walk rate is slightly down, as is his pitches per plate appearance (though just to 3.9 from 4.0).

Taken all together, it’s not like he’s become Tony Gwynn, but this Howard has looked a bit different from the all-or-nothing slugger of the last two years.

The revelation, of course, is his fielding stats. The .944 RZR (revised zone rating) is up 201 points from last season. So it’s not really that he’s getting to more balls, but almost everything he’s gotten to has turned into outs.

by dajafi on May 12, 2009 12:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, his BABIP is clearly not going to stay at .351, but line drive rate isn’t really a great way to go on BABIP projection anyway. In my StatSpeak article, I got that Howard should be hitting .310 on balls in play. A huge improvement is actually his K-rate down to 27.8% from 32.6% last year. That’s probably about .015-.020 points of average or so right there, given his average on contact. His BABIP is partly high since he keeps hitting doubles off the wall (check out this link: http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/playerHitChart?categoryId=223779). As a few more of those leave the yard and his BABIP goes down and his AVG stays up. I’m sure he’ll probably start striking out a little more as pitchers make adjustments to what he has changed, but it looks like he probably will hit .270-.280 this year.

by Matt Swartz on May 12, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

homers

Does it look like his home run rates will remain in-line with his career to date? .275 AVG and 45+ homers is OK by me.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on May 12, 2009 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think so. he’s never hit this many doubles and flyballs to the track before, so his power almost definitely isn’t eroding. 45-50 seems about right.

by Matt Swartz on May 12, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

:sigh:

:hearts:

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by WholeCamels on May 12, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid stats

people on this site use the most obscure and retarded stats I have ever seen..

“slightly down, as is his pitches per plate appearance (though just to 3.9 from 4.0)”

really dude? really??.. i mean technically that IS down.. but really?

by MilroyBoozer on May 12, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

those “stupid stats” that we use do a better job of predicting future baseball events and evaluating players than a lot of the more common statistics.

pitches per plate appearance doesn’t really vary all that much, so 0.1 difference is somewhat notable though not statistically significant, i’m sure. he is swinging at more pitches (though mostly at more strikes) and making more contact than he did last year. given that he’s seeing fewer strikes this year, that could be a somewhat bad sign…or at least an indication his K-rate is going up again to where it’s been before.

by Matt Swartz on May 12, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

he's right

Please restrict all comments to RBI and AVG, please.

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by WholeCamels on May 12, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

How long have you been reading this blog?

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on May 12, 2009 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think a .390 batting average is down from .400?

by phatj on May 12, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

okay

Let’s try this:

“Ryan Howard’s great start in 2008 is wholly attributable to improvements in his character—specifically, eating healthier, refraining from rough sex, sleeping from 10 pm to 6 am every night, and Getting Right With His God. The small gains in batting average and other numbers are completely certain to hold up over the course of the season and indeed the remainder of his career, so long as Howard adheres to the straight and narrow.”

What we try to do here is look at all the factors, quantitative and qualitative, to explain what’s happening to this team we love in this game we love. Pitches seen per plate appearance is a useful metric because it gives a sense of what kind of hitter a guy is: Juan Pierre is averaging 3.2 P/PA in 2009, and you know he’s a slap hitter who doesn’t draw a lot of walks. Bobby Abreu has averaged 4.1 P/PA this year, down a little bit from past seasons but still indicative of a guy who works deep counts and is willing to take a walk if he doesn’t see something he thinks he can drive.

Howard’s “drop” from 4.0 to 3.9 probably isn’t indicative of anything except a small sample size (another concept we’re big on). He’s always been between 3.9 and 4.2. I found it surprising—along with the drop in his walk rate, which might be significant—because my perception from watching the games is that he’s had a more patient approach… which would suggest both drawing more walks and seeing more pitches. But the better explanation might be that his Ks are down—because generally when a guy like Howard strikes out, those will be four or five or six-pitch ABs, which would inflate the P/PA number.

My point is that through 29 games he’s been more of a contact hitter than the homer-or-strikeout guy we’ve seen in the past. If this is all too difficult for you to grasp, maybe The Good Phight isn’t the site for you.

by dajafi on May 12, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well one could argue that being less fat has helped his defense / reaction times :)

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on May 12, 2009 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

As for me, I love the photo caption. When he’s hot, he’s Inferno hot. Abandon all hope, ye who pitch to him…

by Wet Luzinski on May 12, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

rebuttal

How long have I been here at the goodphight? At least three or four minutes now so I think I’m good to go.
Anywho.. back to the issue at hand.. what i referred to as ‘stupid stats’ which unleashed somewhat of an avalanche of cute replies. Which is completely understandable. I mean, what would the world be today without a comment section at the bottom of, well, everything. In a few days I think oakley is releasing a type of sunglass and transcribes all the conversations you have throughout your day so that you can leave comments at the bottom, after the fact of course.
Now, actually back to the issue at hand. Maybe I should not have ‘attacked’ people on this site for using what I would call stupid stats. I suppose i was merely expressing my frustrations toward the sports, and sports writing industry, although clearly in the wrong place. One cannot deny the fact that baseball statistics, and sports statistics in general, are getting more and more ridiculous. OPS, WHIP, RISP, holds, BABIP, TITS, VAG, ASS, NIPS, just to name a few, in my opinion of course. OPS is on-base percentage plus slugging percentage. Wow.. I dont know about the rest of you, but i think society deserves a little more credit. No wonder no one has any trust in the public school system. But, maybe Im just nitpicking.
The point Im trying to get at in a freakishly round about way is this: how many stats in sports these days are created for a genuine need for the information and how many are created by agents to increase their clients ‘worth’. Personally, while Scott Boras still roams the open plains, I think its more of the latter. But Im sure at least 99 percent of you think Im wrong, so please, bring on the avalanche. Insult my intelligence and take cheap shots at my manhood.. i dont care.. im okay with it under one condition. At least add some humor, which brings me to my next point.
Since my loyalty to this site has been questioned ill say flat out that im not a huge fan of this site. Ive only been reading this long because im a bored college student with absolutely no life and because I remain hopeful. Hopeful that the subject matter would become at least somewhat entertaining, but alas, my hopes have been shattered. Or maybe its just all.. far too difficult for me to grasp… so i do not believe the goodphight is for me. The only thing I have found entertaining about this site is the breakfast links that are posted.. every so often.. because they cover more than just the current phillies roster. I would love to read more about our prospects.. whos a surprise in the system, who isnt living up to expectations, who pitching well, whos hitting well.. i would love to read about the draft and who the phils are looking at, i would love to read things about our broadcast teams on tv and radio at all levels of play.. give me something more.. i can read about our 25-man roster and all accompanying coaches at least a thousand different places.. and they might have a sense of humor to go with it(see my previous fanpost).
But hey, what do I know. I’m just a naive noob stuck in a RBI and AVG entranced tunnel vision. I bid you farewell the GoodPhight.
Thank you for your time…

by MilroyBoozer on May 13, 2009 2:13 AM EDT reply actions  

One certainly can deny that sports statistics are becoming ridiculous, and it is not a fact. OK, language nitpick over. Let’s move on.

I don’t even know what you’re trying to say about OPS. Are you saying it’s too simplistic? The “new” stats (some of which are hardly new, like WHIP, RISP & OPS) generally are trying to better describe performance than the traditional statistics (WHIP for instance is a better descriptor of relief pitcher performance than is ERA, and OPS is better than batting average for hitters), and some, such as BABIP, try to look deeper at the underlying mechanics of the game to identify trends and make predictions that aren’t possible with standard stats. If you don’t wish to look this look this closely, that’s fine. But you’re insulting the statistics and implicitly, the people who create and use them, from an admitted position of ignorance. That says more about you than the statistics. When you proceed to mock the new statistics with made-up names like TITS, ASS, etc. (which is incredibly original, by the way — well done) you only further discredit yourself.

As to the humor, well, that’s subjective. I find plenty of humor on this site, but that’s not really what it’s about, and maybe the sense of humor here doesn’t mesh with your own. That’s OK, but I don’t understand why you’re even bringing it up.

by phatj on May 13, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

touche

Because I know that no human being is capable of dropping a “farewell” message like that and not tracking the responses, I’ll do you one better and respond to your post substantively:

how many stats in sports these days are created for a genuine need for the information and how many are created by agents to increase their clients ‘worth’. Personally, while Scott Boras still roams the open plains, I think its more of the latter.

I think most amateur (and professional, for that matter) sabermetricians would love it if they were tools of Scott Boras, as it would probably mean they’d make a lot more money doing what they do. Boras does a fine job manipulating the traditional stats to make guys like Dante Bichette look like quality players; he doesn’t need to more esoteric, modern statistics to do his dirty work.

At least add some humor . . . (see my previous fanpost)

You’re presumably referring to this one. You know what, I looked at this when you posted it and I chuckled. It’s a funny turn of phrase. I don’t know what you were expecting as a response from us and the regular readers. I mean, it’s not like “dinger” isn’t common slang for a home run. If it had said “Victorino’s long, meaty, Polynesian dinger” then I’ll grant you, that’s potentially hilarious, but as it is…

Sports humor tends to be of the “OMG it’s funny, he just gave him a hot foot!” variety, or “look at the wacky bloopers!” How many Daniel Murphy and Raul Ibanez “highlight” clips have you seen on this site? And yesterday we gave you a truly terrible Ibanez/Warren Zevon Youtube video. We’re not going to be the wacky terrible Photoshop Phillies blog, it’s just not what we do, but if something strikes us as funny, we run with it. I’d also be interested to see what you find “humorous,” aside from the aforementioned Victorino dick joke (and the hilarious acronyms you enumerated above… I mean, “VAG”? That’s GOLD!).

The only thing I have found entertaining about this site is the breakfast links that are posted.. every so often.

Good point. I kind of eased off on these for a number of reasons, partially because I wasn’t getting too much feedback on them. Dropping them didn’t really have a perceptible effect on traffic. Also the daily commitment isn’t exactly conducive to my current job. If people like them, it might be time to recruit someone to take over… Ditto on the minor league stuff, I’ve been wanting to recruit a farm system “expert” to do updates for some time now.

The source story about Ryan Howard that we’re commenting in doesn’t refer to any esoteric stats — just AVG, OBA, SLG, and home runs. Frankly I lack the mastery of the more advanced stats that other writers have (such as MattS). I just stick with what I know. And pitches/plate appearance — the stat you seemed to have so much issue with — isn’t exactly hard to grasp, either. Are you just trying to strike a blow against the “uptight nerdlingers” or something?

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on May 13, 2009 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

WC… Personally, I enjoyed the breakfast links as well. Nice little summary and some additives for good measure. I would like to see them return at some point.

"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel

by foos05 on May 13, 2009 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

WC – in his defense, i find his posts in this comment section quite humorous…though i’m sure it was not his intent.

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on May 13, 2009 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

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