Old Man and the Sea: Marlins at Phillies Game Thread, May 25, 2009
by WholeCamels on May 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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Florida Marlins at Philadelphia Phillies, May 25, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
The Phillies return home after a successful if not unequivocally perfect 8-2 road trip for a three game series against the Florida Marlins.
Jamie Moyer will, again, be going for his 250th career victory against one of the few teams he's had any success against lately. He'll be opposed by Chris Volstad.
Discuss the game below.
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I have both options of announcing/television crews. Which one should I pick?
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The one with the most entertainment value?
The one least likely to drive you mad?
by phillyinportland on May 25, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ended up picking T-Mac and Wheels. Don’t know why. Guess so I can see the Citizens Bank 7 and the Stump the Fans contest.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, the traditional choice. Like candlesticks, in Bull Durham?
by phillyinportland on May 25, 2009 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That, and the fact that I rarely get the Philly broadcast on MLB EI’s.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus – no maroone commercials – i hate those
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked the blue patriotic hats better
but the red ones are okay, too.
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow….J-Roll got lucky. Helms was safe, according to the replay. Hopefully the Phils use this break and put a crooked number on the board.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure Helms didn’t beat that, but what the hell, he owes us…
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jelly Roll with his head up his ass there.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fun to read about
J Rollins safe at second on error by pitcher C Volstad, J Rollins advanced to first on C Volstad error, J Rollins tagged out at second attempting to advance on play
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Volstad freakin’ owns us. 2.14 ERA in four career starts.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the ERA is going up a tad after that.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Howard hits one off the fungus in Center…what a bomb!
Even T-Mac got excited there.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Big man with a mammoth HR to dead center. 2-0 Phils.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WOW
I thought that one was going to land on top of the batters eye.
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Howard!
That helps make up for a few earlier problems!
by phillyinportland on May 25, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you MLB network for your instant highlights
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Much easier inning for Moyer. Mid-2nd.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Way to work the walk!
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Another quick one for Grampa.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gotta love that kid skipping down the stairs.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on May 25, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What are crab fries?
Are they what they sound like, deep fried crab sticks?
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dunno. I figured regular fries with seasoning, but maybe you’re right.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have crotch fleas all over them.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on May 25, 2009 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
Just fries with Old Bay seasoning (whatever that is) and cheese on them. No crab included.
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/tm.aspx?m=181483&mpage=
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t end well, but a good long AB from Howard before striking out.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Back to back walks to start the 4th. Cue “Jaws” theme.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And here goes Jamie!
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on May 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Come on Moyer
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anybody watching the game?
how close are his pitches to the strikezone?
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A lot are off by a bit.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not all that close, for the most part. He’s just nibbling—as he usually does, but they aren’t swinging at the junk.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, that 2-2 pitch to Helms should have been called a strike.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And then the next pitch he bombs out of the park. Fuck you, Marvin Hudson.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He did get Helms out – the ump blew
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but he also got a BS strike call on the 2-0 pitch, and served up a BP pitch on the full count.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
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by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just another example of how walks come back to bite one in the ass.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
honestly.
I’m tired of pitching that have no command of the strikezone. After a year I think that teams have learned to sit in the box and just watch them throw balls.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know – if ryan howard would learn that same thing he’d do much better at the plate
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don’t know if that was sarcasm or you’re in agreement bro?
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s an illustration that people swing at pitches out of the strike zone often
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m tired of hyperbole and over reactions myself
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol. i’m just having a crummy day, a three run shot as soon as I finish dinner just kind of the tip of the iceberg for me.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if someone like Moyer is just not as comfortable pitching from the stretch.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All right boys, get some more runs
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Mr Werth – at least take one pitch you bag
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Any of you locals, is Ricky Bottalico as bad a broadcaster/commentator as I imagine?
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Perfect hit and run execution.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MLB network look ins are the coolest part of any of the ‘league’ channels – i get to see ruiz’s at bat (and i saw howards home runs moments after and the marlins homerun as it happened)
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I blame Jasyon Werth for his miserable at bat
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
when he swings and misses….boy it sure is ugly.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of feel like we’re in a worst-case scenario with this game: Moyer isn’t pitching well enough to win, at least not against this Phillie-killing pitcher, but he’ll keep his job based on this performance.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
totally agree. even though, regardless if we win or lose, moyer will keep his job.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel he’d keep his job longer than he deserves no matter what due to manuel and the book and moyers ‘long career’ giving him more rope
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, he’s pitched well tonight on the whole. I’m just dubious that he can do this against many other teams.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oy
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That shouldn’t happen with the #8 hitter.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Victorino saves two runs and preserves Moyer’s chance for the win.
Let’s get it for him and then send him off to baseball Valhalla.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's go Phils
Get some effing runs and get a win for Moyer so he can stop thinking about number 250.
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
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by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There's one
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Classic Ryan Howard Bomb™
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was quite nice to see
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They needed to push Volstad out of this game. Unfortunately I think he’s going to make it through the 6th at around 90 pitches, which will mean he goes one more.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Replay used in Mets game -
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Helms absolutely killing us.
That is vile.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is about as demoralizing of a game as has been seen this year.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to say there have been worse. Don’t give up yet, remember these are the same phillies that gave us comebacks at the beginning of the season.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So – how much will it cost to send CHoP packing when Romero is ready?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how many games until Romero is back?
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
50 minus how ever many they played so far?
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
soo 8 games? 7 if you include this one?
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Announcers rhapsodizing over what I thought was a very poor “God Bless America.” Maybe it would sound better if we weren’t losing to the fracking Marlins.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One would think Dobbs would come up to the plate with a better approach as a PH
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or rather, as a cold hitter.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I feel like Moyer doesn’t get much run support . . .
by flyrsfrk05 on May 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
0,9,11,13,6,5,2,1
Runs they scored in his first eight starts. That averages out I think to just under 6 a game, which most pitchers would take.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay thats kinda what I was wondering. I figured I was wrong but I never took a deeper look. Shame he can’t get his 250th today :(
by flyrsfrk05 on May 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shame he keeps pitching for the phillies and has a contract for next year too
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rollins doubles, Volstad done.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rollins double with two outs, and Volstad is gone.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well Utley had a brain fart this game, so far.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if only he could bring that type of play for multiple innings…
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This reliever Nunez has the Madson repertoire.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that is quite a delivery. Tough to pick up that ball I’d imagine.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want runs!
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Question
1. Why can’t the Phils win at home on a consistent basis?
by phillynyc on May 25, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This team is an enigma
Going anything less than 4-2 at home against the worst teams in the division is just pathetic. Especially with a west coast trip coming up.
by phillynyc on May 25, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Phils actually got tired of home cookin'?
sarcasm.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying too hard to impress the crowd?
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lots of innings with CHoP and Jamie Moyer on the mound too.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe it’ll just even out as the season progresses – won’t continue to be that hot on the road or that bda at home
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rollins might have hurt himself on that infield single.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah, really tugging on his left elbow sweatband/support
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if count goes full I’ll take it.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I lost the bet.
reason I bet in cents instead of dollars.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even better, conditions weren’t met, so no wager placed. Also, I would have felt like it was blood money.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh i had an envelope set up just in case.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, we’ll have to connect our accounts to PayPal.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Park had five strikeouts in this game.
So if nothing else they didn’t abuse the bullpen tonight after a couple games in which the key guys all worked hard.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PHew. I have to say I had a real bad feeling there.
Had to rewind the DVR there. There was actually a fan who looked like he was giving CHoP a “We are not worthy!” arm wave—but on second look it might have been borderline sarcastic.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
C'mon...scoring three runs is easy, right?
Do it, boys. Do it do it do it do it.
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no questions asked, we’re in business.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone feel like that was maybe the wrong time to steal a base?
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice patience by Victorino there.
Stairs coming up.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to see the jump again. My hunch is that he didn’t get a good one at all.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
um.
was there a point to that attempted steal?
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
to avoid a force out? but that’s moot point now.
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figured he would go, but you might as well take a pitch or two to see if, one, he’s still wild, and two, to give Lopes a chance to time his delivery.
by dajafi on May 25, 2009 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
be very, very afraid. Game over.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that turned out to be pretty lame
"He shows up every day to play, he plays hard every day, and he shows up to beat your butt." ~Ozzie Guillen on AJ Pierzynski, 3-17-09
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on May 25, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and a former phil is what torched us.
Wes Helms…you’ll rue the day you crossed the phils!
by soman319 on May 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He had months for us that were less productive than this game.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Getting beat by Wes Helms
…must feel a lot like getting beat by Jamie Moyer!
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And Ronny Paulino did his bit, too
It might be the highlight of their season, as they’re both hitting below .250, each now with one HR. After that 11-1 start the Marlins have been just about the worst team in baseball, haven’t they?
by phillyinportland on May 25, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Demoralizing loss indeed. 8-2 road trip followed by an egg at home, and a truly dickless ninth inning. Stealing while down by two. Really?
Ugh. Get ‘em tomorrow. They better, with the Mets leading the Gnats, it’ll be a .5 game lead.
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by WanderingMoses on May 25, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have more problems with the outs on the basepaths and bad situational hitting than I do with Moyer. Postgame showing that Moyer had Helms on 2-2 before the 3-run HR, which was the difference in the ballgame.
by Wet Luzinski on May 25, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you look up earlier there are some posts that indicate that moyer had some gifts earlier, and even with the missed strike – it was a full count and he served up helms quite a homerunable pitch
"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."
Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.
by jemagee on May 25, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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