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What to do with Myers? (Offseason edition)

With the news that Brett Myers will undergo hip surgery likely to keep him out for the remainder of the 2009 season, the Phillies face the potential end of the road with their longest-tenured pitcher. Myers was the team's first-round draft choice ten years ago, and has been with the Phils long enough that his first career start came in a lineup that included Scott Rolen, Travis Lee, and Marlon Anderson.

With a career record of 73-63 and key contributions--albeit in very different roles--to both the 2007 and 2008 division titles as well as last year's World F. Championship, Myers can point with pride to his accomplishments as a Phillie. His off-field problems, disgraceful as they were, seem to be behind him, and he's never indicated otherwise than that he wants to remain with the club beyond this season. Should the Phillies feel the same way? 

Before the 2007 season, Myers signed a three-year contract worth $25.75 million that took him through what would have been his first season of free agency. He's earning $12 million this season, the most of any pitcher on the club and second overall to Ryan Howard ($15 million). It's difficult to make a guess about his market value as a free agent next winter; other pitchers who might be on the market include Erik Bedard, Doug Davis, Kelvim Escobar, Rich Harden, John Lackey, Andy Pettitte and Joel Pineiro, while higher-profile arms like Josh Beckett, Cliff Lee and Brandon Webb are likely to see their team options picked up. Also unclear is whether teams will feel they have more money to spend as the economy begins to recover. But it seems like a reasonable assumption that if the Phils offered Myers arbitration, and he accepted, his 2010 salary would be in the neighborhood of what he's making this year. 

Will he be worth that investment, or even a multi-year deal at around the same annual salary? Myers will be 29 next season, and there's a chance, as Ken Rosenthal writes, that he'll come back as strong or stronger than ever, with his fastball velocity closer to the mid-90s he worked at from 2005-2007 to the high-80s range of the last couple seasons.

Were that the case, the adjustments Myers has made--more effectively using his curve and cutter to compensate for the velocity drop--could finally elevate him to the ace-level performance he's never quite achieved. Given the other question marks in the rotation going forward beyond Cole Hamels--Jamie Moyer at 47? J.A. Happ and Joe Blanton as your #2 and #3? the development of Carlos Carrasco and Kyle Kendrick and Antonio Bastardo and Vance Worley?--it's not hard to imagine the Phils looking to extend their relationship with the young veteran right-hander. 

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Assuming he can't come back in 2009, what should the Phillies do with Brett Myers?
Try to sign him to a new multi-year contract
102 votes
Offer arbitration
142 votes
Cut ties with him
59 votes

303 votes | Poll has closed

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Personally, too early to tell, until you see what you got in the minors, if any are ready to make the next step…there are rumors that the dimaondbacks might be ‘dismantling’ this year if it can’t get on the right track…

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on May 30, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions  

As of right now...

…I say offer him arbitration. Recovering from this injury isn’t a slam dunk, and while Rosenthal is right that it could be the cause of his drop in velocity, there’s no guarantee that’s the case. Myers has had declining fastball velocity and peripherals for a few years now, so offering him a long-term deal is too much of a risk in my mind.

On the flip side, it’s tough to let him walk without getting anything for him. Arbitration is thus a worthwhile gamble — if he accepts, then you’ve got a motivated Myers on a one-year “show me” deal, trying to get his next big contract. And if he declines, you at least recoup the draft picks.

Obviously, this is all subject to change based on who the Phillies wind up trading for (a non-rental pitcher effectively ends Myers career as a Phillie), whether Carrasco/Bastardo/Worley take steps forward, how healthy Myers is, etc. But from the end of May vantage point, arbitration looks like the best option.

by PhillyFriar on May 30, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions  

This

Without seeing how the rest of the season plays out, in terms of trades and how our (remaining) pitching prospects perform, it’s pretty premature to suggest either a multi-year deal or to let him walk.

But offering arb looks like a pretty good idea, unless Myers’ rehab goes really badly.

by phatj on May 30, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I also voted for arbitration, on the lines that PhillyFriar set out. You make the offer willing to live with the answer either way, and maybe bank on the signals that suggest Myers would like to stay and thus could agree to a hometown discount—a one-year deal for a relatively low base and big incentives that maybe could include a vesting option for 2011.

by dajafi on May 30, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

you really can't

answer this question until we see what happens the rest of this season

i think it depends on the following things:

1. whether or not we make a move for a starter, how they perform, and if they’ll be with us next season
2. the progress of our young guys — Carrasco, Bastardo, Kendrick, Carpenter.. while i don’t think Kendrick or Carpenter will be ready to join next year’s starting rotation, the possibility of Carrasco and/or Bastardo making it are very real
3. how much Brett wants.. at this point i think we pretty much know what we’re getting from him.. i can’t see this hip injury turning him into the ace we’ve always been waiting to see.. i could be wrong, but i just don’t think it’d be worth it to sign him to any type of long-term deal.. especially considering he’s already the highest paid pitcher on the staff so i’m assuming he wouldn’t want to settle for less to stay

WFC

by stillhotish on May 30, 2009 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree, except maybe for the last bit—I have this feeling he’d seriously consider a two- or three-year deal for $10 million per, and possibly even something like a one-year with a $5 million base that, if he pitches 200 innings and gets Cy Young votes, could top out at $13-14 million. Some guys in the last year of a multi-year deal who don’t blossom into aces seem to realize that their real value is something lower than what they made that year—Randy Wolf for instance. He’s unlikely ever again to see the $9 million he got from the Phils in 2006…

by dajafi on May 31, 2009 3:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Arbritration

 is safe all around. Just too many questions to do something else.

by DeanH on May 30, 2009 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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