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Manny is a dope - suspended 50 games

CNN is reporting that Manny Ramirez has been suspended for 50 games for testing positive for a performance-enhancing substance. Linky, linky.

I am feeling better about the Ibanez signing, folks. It's early, and I reserve my right to whine in 2011, but a one-year deal for Manny seems like it would have turned out badly. Kudos, belatedly, to Amaro.

This may have been an accidental win for Amaro (or not so accidental, perhaps), but I was thinking last night about how character does sometimes matter when investing in player contracts. See: Burress, Plaxico. The Manny story just came up out of the blue (so to speak, Dodger fans of the world) at the same time. Strange.

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On the one hand, I hate the way MLB has become reactionary vis-a-vis PEDs when they spent years/decades ignoring everything.

On the other hand, I’m glad that it appears the Phillies won’t have to face him at all this year, barring another postseason matchup.

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by WholeCamels on May 7, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's karma

Since we got him 11 times last year—three with the Red Sox, then all eight with the Dodgers. Plus of course the NLCS.

And I share the “one hand” view as well: if mandatory sentencing without consideration of specific circumstances is a bad idea in society at large (and it is), then MLB’s embrace of it is dumb as well.

by dajafi on May 7, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB doing something stupid?

They had to – they had to over react to get the US Senate off their back – cause while rome (financial markets) were headed for disaster, long time coming, congress was worried about the children…

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on May 7, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manny-datories

Perhaps MLB should adopt the RRRI program and Manny can do 3/4 of the mandatory as long as he completes recidivism reduction classes.

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by RememberthePhitans on May 7, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this final?

Does he get to appeal or argue that this was a prescription medicine? Or is that process over and his suspension is a done deal?

by David S. Cohen on May 7, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dope

Me, not Manny. It would help if I read before posting. He’s not challenging the suspension, saying that it was a mistake not to check and that he’ll serve.

by David S. Cohen on May 7, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think so

I always thought the notification/appeals/“sentencing” process was a behind-closed-doors thing, and that the punishments were only announced when the whole deal was finished.

I remember all the back story to the Romero stuff that came out afterwards (the sentencing negotiations, etc.) that had already happened at the time the 50 game suspension had been announced..

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by WholeCamels on May 7, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not entirely disinclined to believe Manny’s story. His physique has never looked particularly “enhanced”.

by taco pal on May 7, 2009 1:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ibanez is doing it too. They ALL are.

EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on May 7, 2009 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was listening to the radio – the ‘performance enhancing drug’ policy is not just for PEDs – it’s for drugs – there’s a long list – some of which aren’t performance enhancing but are just illegal in the United States.

I have a hard time believing manny tested positive for a steroid or a greeny
I don’t have a hard time believing manny tested positive for something more recreational and herbalicious which also might result in a 50 game ban.

Until Manny comes clean about exactly what it was (or someone leaks it) all we know is he tested positive for one of about 20 or so banned substances

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on May 7, 2009 1:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ho hum. I think I have made my opinion on PEDs pretty clear in these parts.

by FuquaManuel on May 7, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m sure we all have – but the misconception that seems prevalent is that the MLB ‘policy’ is a drug policy not a PED policy – so it covers more than just your every day PEDs.

I think it’s just as likely that he tested positive for something recreational…

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on May 7, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thoughts/messages:
1- no one is safe, as MLB at least is getting away from busting AAAA violators or even bullpen / “part time” players like Romero.
2- Red Sox seem both pretty smart as well as a launching pad for rule violators (Clemens, Romero, Ramirez). And that’s just baseball (Bellicheck). Love that dirty water….
3- This too, is Manny being Manny.
4- re: statement about banned substances in the U.S. — kind of a challenge for a multinational corporation like MLB, and in particular furriners like Ramirez.

by Wet Luzinski on May 7, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The more the facts come out, the hairier it seems to get. The ESPN reporters (Fainaru-Wade and some other guy) are saying that Manny used a woman’s fertility drug (hGC, I believe it is called) to restart testosterone production after a steroid cycle. So I wonder how long he had been doing before this. First time I have ever heard ’woman’s fertility drug’ and ’ baseball’ in the same sentence, that’s for sure.

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by WanderingMoses on May 7, 2009 5:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish I could say the same…

/nurses beer, goes home to wife and sextuplets who all look suspiciously like Manny Ramirez.

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by WholeCamels on May 7, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL!

Hilarious.

by FuquaManuel on May 7, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Manny Ramirez is the greatest female player in the history of MLB.

by FuquaManuel on May 7, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now we know why his jersey always jiggled around the letters. The mystery is now unlocked!

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by WanderingMoses on May 7, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BTW – Goose Gossage always knew manny was on the roids – he’s a clown – on the field and off – no respect for the game
goose also believes if you test once you should be banned for life

the questoin ‘how many greenies did you take during your career mr gossage’ however was not asked during the interview i listened to as he went on his rant.

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on May 7, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was listening to the radio last night and Ike Reese was talking about Lidge’s comments and said that it was a little hypocritical of him to say that since Romero tested positive last year and chose to take the suspension this year(not sure if that is true or not) do you guys agree with that?

by The Legend on May 8, 2009 3:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes, I felt the same way, but I don’t remember Lidge coming out in support of Romero after he was suspended. I think he was always, “the rules are there and we all have to follow them”.

by doubleh on May 8, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the cases are distinguishable if you think Romero is telling the truth while Manny is lying. One can obviously disagree with whether that was in fact the case, but there’s nothing inherently hypocritical about Lidge’s statement.

by taco pal on May 8, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree, assuming Romero told the whole truth. If so, then Manny is doubly mendacious because he essentially tried copping the same plea. Then it also doesn’t quite seem fair that one guy can make a small but understandable mistake, while another guy is tested for a drug that masks effects of a series of intentional doping, and each gets 50 games.

by Wet Luzinski on May 8, 2009 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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