Phillies coveting Wang?

Sounds like a half-assed WFAN caller's suggestion. Which means it probably goes down sometime in the next two weeks.

I like the idea of trying to bring a sinkerballer into CBP, but maybe one who misses bats, um, once in awhile?

Terrible idea.

over 2 years ago WholeCamels 8 comments 0 recs |

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I do not think this is a terrible idea at all. Wang has a 4.2 SO/9 rate for his career. Yes, that is not good. But, it has not doomed him to failure for the first 4 years of his career. I am not sure why that would suddenly change in year 5. Also, for comparisons sake Blanton and Moyer have career SO/9 rates of 5.5 and 5.4 respectively. It is not like we are trying to upgrade from the likes of Clemens or Johnson. Now, with all trades, it depends what we would need to give to the Yanks in order to attain Wang, but I am not at all against acquiring Wang. I am not sure why you would label this a terrible idea.

by Neduol Caz on Jun 29, 2009 6:18 AM EDT reply actions

If this were an on-the-fringes move, I’d be more receptive to it, I would just fear it as our “Oh, we addressed the pitching situation!” transaction.

I’m also wondering how many right handed starters since WWII have succeeded long term with anything like Wang’s SO/9 rate.

And: uhhh, you want Wang… huh huh huh

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by WholeCamels on Jun 29, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions

Here here.

You said it, Neduol Caz.

People forget how consistently effective Wang was for 3+ years. Instead of getting blinders on and focusing on his strikeout rate, let’s look at the more important numbers: his FIP for the 2006 through 2008 seasons: 3.91, 3.79, 3.74, respectively; his career walk rate is a fairly stingy 2.65 BB/9; his career groundball rate is 60.1%. He’s having a terrible season so far, but I doubt that he’s suddenly washed up at age 29; more likely that he’s simply got some things to figure out.

As WholeCamels says here, trading for Wang can’t be the “We addressed our rotation!” move for the offseason, nor is it a move the Phils can make if the Yanks are asking for anything substantial. But if Wang can be had on the cheap, and Dubee & Co. can straighten him out, then putting Wang in front of our infield defense would be a fantastic move.

by PhillyFriar on Jun 29, 2009 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions

NO.

Don’t. Want. Him. Move along…

"Red, it took me sixteen years to get here. You play me, and I'll give ya the best I got."

by Touchdown on Jun 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions

What’s his contract situation like and what would he cost? If he don’t cost much, throw him out there for a couple starts and see what happens, if not just send him away.

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 29, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions

I can see the headlines now...

Phillies forced to give up arm and leg for Yanks Wang.

by phils11 on Jun 29, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions

Ruben Amaro – sense of humor?

We can say, ‘Pretty please can we have a pitcher?’ but that doesn’t mean one will become available."

"Someone created the box score," Morey says, "and he should be shot."

Blocked shots — they look great, but unless you secure the ball afterward, you haven’t helped your team all that much.

by jemagee on Jun 29, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions

09 5M. No option for ‘10. I know he had back to back 19 win seasons but looking at his stats this year it appears he’s fallen off a cliff. I would be pissed if this is the best Ruben can do.

by Steve-O- on Jun 30, 2009 12:20 AM EDT reply actions