Russian Relief Roulette: Phillies 3, Braves 2
A tight game between NL East rivals went to the ninth inning tied at 2, with effective starters Joe Blanton and Jair Jurrjens both out of the game and setup men Mike Gonzalez and Ryan Madson already used. Both managers made risky, eminently second-guessable bullpen decisions. But while Atlanta's Bobby Cox and Rafael Soriano bit a bullet in the top of the ninth, Charlie Manuel and floundering closer Brad Lidge just barely managed to escape unharmed.
After lefty Gonzalez worked around a leadoff double in the top of the eighth and Madson set down the Braves in the bottom half, Cox called on right-hander Soriano to face the Phillies' 4-5-6 hitters in the ninth. Perhaps the future Hall of Fame manager was unaware of the nearly 500 point gap in Ryan Howard's OPS against righties (1.051) and lefties (.591). Maybe he thought Gonzalez was gassed after retiring Shane Victorino and Chase Utley with Ben Francisco on third and one out. Possibly it was a hunch. In any event, Howard crushed a Soriano offering into the left-centerfield seats, giving the Phillies a 3-2 lead.
Madson had needed only six pitches to retire the heart of the Atlanta order in the eighth, but Manuel turned to Brad Lidge anyway--and very nearly paid for it with the game. Yunel Escobar started the home ninth with a rocket to the right-centerfield gap that Jayson Werth managed to run down. Adam LaRoche followed with a hard-hit single up the middle; Matt Diaz pinch-ran, and quickly notched his 20th career steal in 434 big-league games. But Lidge struck out Ryan Church on an eye-high fastball for the second out. Lidge then walked pinch-hitter Greg Norton, batting .138 for the year, to face Nate McLouth with the winning run on first. McLouth blasted another drive to the track in left... where it settled into the glove of Raul Ibanez, ending the game.
Both winning a low-scoring game and beating the Braves for only the third time in ten tries this year are worth getting pumped about. But the question remains: if the Phillies are justified in demoting Jamie Moyer for poor performance, how long can they tolerate Lidge's high-wire act in the closer role?
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“But the question remains: if the Phillies are justified in demoting Jamie Moyer for poor performance, how long can they tolerate Lidge’s high-wire act in the closer role?”
Until Brett Myers is completely healthy?
Preparation H
The next two games the Phils are going to use Preparation H on the Braves. Hamels and Happ.
by fan since late 40's on Aug 15, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Loyality
Last year’s perfection was…..last year. This years suck is 0-4, 7 BS, 7.12 ERA. They ran out of excuses for Lidge a long time ago.
Just Win Baby!
The best thing the Phillies can do is stay with Lidge and try to get him “right” going into the playoffs. However, I’m sure they have a plan B ( Myers or Madson or Committee) if Lidge cannot get it together. The reason they are staying with Lidge is that a good Lidge is better then Plan B.
RE: Lidge
It is time for Manuel to sit Lidge for a minium of a week and let him ponder his poor performances…to many games have been lost as a result of his lackluster year..perhaps salaries should be based upon performance! Poor performance…no salary!!!
Look what you did! BAD!
I sincerely doubt it’s a lack of effort, so I don’t see what good “punishing” him is going to do.
Good luck pushing your “no pay for lackluster play” plan past the Union.
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by WholeCamels on Aug 15, 2009 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn’t watching the game, just getting the updates from ESPN.com on my phone, and I just assumed they’d lose in the bottom of the 9th, lead wasn’t big enough.
Yes, lidge has been bad this year.
What other available option would be better? Madson wasn’t so good.
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Aug 15, 2009 1:23 PM EDT reply actions
The evidence that Madson can close games better than Lidge is spotty – at best.
The evidence that Eyre doesn’t suck is pretty spotty too.
Park might be worth a shot
But comittee is beyond the book – the manager likes things simple and easy to understand – don’t rattle the boat, it’s not his way
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Aug 15, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You asked “what other available option would be better?” I said “closer by committee.” Just because Cholly would be unlikely to do it does not make it any less of an option — and probably the best option at that.
And really, any other option out of that bullpen would be better than Lidge at this point. Statistically he has been among the worst relievers in baseball.
the closer’s job is about the hardest in baseball.its a lot about mental as well as physical.that being said,who else do we have that has that mental edge?if there was another pitcher capable they would already be doing that job.the best thing they can do is prepare for what might be.maybe lidge does come around?come playoff time.most of his blown saves were early in the year and supposedly he has corrected his mechanics.why bench him now?players have to work thru things.look at what rollins has done after a shaky start.we stuck with him because we know what he’s capable of.
committees don’t work well in relief.there has to be ‘the guy’.
ideally,when myers comes back???if they decided to bench lidge i’d rather see myers start and martinez as closer.he has that sort of mentality.

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