Awkwaaarrrrd!: Phillies at Mets Game Thread, August 23, 2009
by WholeCamels on Aug 23, 2009 1:00 PM EDT
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Philadelphia Phillies at New York Mets, Aug 23, 2009 1:10 PM EDT
Pedro Martinez pitches in New York for the first time since last season, and will be opposed by another Phillie-killing starter, Oliver Perez.
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Bruntlett? Really?!?
How is this guy still in the majors, much less on a Championship team?!?
Bye, Big Stew and JJ :(
SMALL BALL?!?!? AGAINST A DUDE WITH A +6 ERA???
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Shane is fast – bunting for single?
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Aug 23, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Already making Ollie work. Where was this patience against pitchers like say, I don’t know, Cy Redding?
That is true, at least relative to Ollie P.
by WanderingMoses on Aug 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
How the hell is Bruntlett still playing baseball?
"They say that nobody is perfect. Then they tell you practice makes perfect. I wish they'd make up their minds." - Wilt Chamberlain
Blackmail pictures of the FO and management.
by WanderingMoses on Aug 23, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Even better than the wild 9th in Florida early in the season?
by WanderingMoses on Aug 23, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Werth waiting for.
Meanwhile, I can’t imagine a more frustrating pitcher to play D behind or root for as a fan than Perez.
by dajafi on Aug 23, 2009 1:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Was thinking the same thing. I would consider platooning Raul and Fransisco for the rest of the season.
Is Manuel trying to get fired now? I mean I know he doesn’t need much help
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Aug 23, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions
When is the last time
you saw a pitcher yanked in the middle of an AB (without an injury)?
My goodness. Hard to believe that’s the same Perez we couldn’t touch last year.
by dajafi on Aug 23, 2009 1:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Neither does my sister (who also went to brandeis)
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Aug 23, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh wow
That was not Martinez’s fault. Ibanez should have never picked that ball out.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
He just gave the Mets new life.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
buh?
I’m just following this game on the internet. Somebody tell me what the &%$ just happened?
Pagan hits ball into the right center gap, gets stuck under the padding in the wall. Shane throws up arms, trying to get a dead ball call, umps don’t call it, Raul picks ball out of padding and throws it in, but too late, Pagan inside the park HR.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
cheers
oh shane… I thought he learned not to throw his arms up anymore. Sounds like an incredible stroke of luck for the Mets…
MAybe the long top of the inning threw Pedro off.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Looked really good on those two strikeouts. Of course, it is the bottom of the JV Mets’ lineup.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
Which means he should be able to get through the 2nd easily.
by WanderingMoses on Aug 23, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, what a game – I mean inning. The Phillies bullpen will probably get an opportunity to get some work in today.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 1:53 PM EDT reply actions
only the Phillies
could be on the bad end of the “stuck under the padding” ground rule in two new parks (first CBP with Burrell—I remember this— I think against the Marlins iirc?) and today with the Mets at Citi.
Still makes me laugh that the Mets have 1 player who has 10+ homeruns…and it is 10 homeruns.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Wow, I thought that was out…Werth looked crazy out there.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
kind of a twisty, lanky white version of Willie Mays, but at half speed.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Rockies
I just noticed they are coming on strong in the runs scored and slugging department. This is the first time I’ve seen Phillies second in NL OPS in a long time. Looks like the wild card team entry this year could be a choice between the excellent top of the rotation of the Giants and the run-scoring ability of the Rockies.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 2:03 PM EDT reply actions
the 14-run mashing of the Giants last night must have helped. OTOH, the Rockies gave up 11.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
eric bruntlett has 2 hits
Hell froze over.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
Not one MEt’s fan in that shot was watching the game.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
c’mon, you know he’s gotta be going for the pump here. I would
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Is it bad that I actually worried for a second that Feliz wasn’t going to be able to score on that fly ball?
http://www.thegoodphight.com
yeah, recalibrate the worry meter. I had no fear there.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
inning over. Grab something so you don’t fall in. At this rate you’ll want to see the rest of this one.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
BUck Martinez just told me there’s a knack to hitting with runners in scoring position, and Michael Young has that knack.
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Aug 23, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
Oh i know what he meant, i just found it fascinating to hear him pontificate about that while I am watching rangers/rays…me, I think a hitter who has a consistent solid approach in every situation would be better than a guy who has a bunch of different approaches to different situations
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Aug 23, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Slow down the game
I just saw the same thing and was amazed to learn that a batter can have the skill to hit well with RISP – and that skilll is being able to slow down the game. Wow. I guess all batters should be working on that – whatever the heck that means.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
well, I’ll take the K. Lot of game left.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Sullivan
I’m not quite sure how I’ve neglected to note that this guy has had nearly 80 ABs vs. the Phils and had raked us.
Interesting point, since I’m not even sure who Corey Sullivan is – was he on the Marlins before?
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
see, that’s my point. Very stealthy. But the CSN crew quoted some amazing stat where he’s hit somethin’ like .350+ vs us.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Not Pedro's best day so far.
Luckily we got the lousy edition of Oliver Perez.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Jaason I presume?
they are reinventing the early 90s version
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Agree. I think there’s also something way wrong with his front foot, which comes out too soon.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
The 1919 White Sox deserve more baseball justice than Pete Rose.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Correction...
Shoeless Joe deserves more baseball justice than Pete Rose
why is a violation somehow mitigated because time has passed?
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I get that Schmidt is in his corner. And I even respect his loyalty. To Mike Schmidt, Rose was the FA who pulled the thorn out of the Phillies late 70s paw. But unlike, say, the Black Sox, he had no financial incentive to bet on baseball. He did so while playing/managing, and lied about it to boot. It’ s a sad situation, he has HOF cred, but he broke a rule that is way clearer, and way more serious to the integrity of the game, than, say, Romero’s GNC stupidity.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Needing some cool, calm and collected Pedro here
by dajafi on Aug 23, 2009 2:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
TMac: “Oh what a play by Eric Bruntlett!”
and —-he was absolutely right!
what has gotten into him today? Much more of this and he might get POG honors.
Beardo
has always been the man; don’t know why you guys have been raggin on him so much. He doesn’t get enough at bats to get into a rythym, but he’s always been awesome of defense. Glad he’s on our squad. Don’t want him to play everyday, but glad to save some pine for him.
to think that the 2nd coming of Lou Gehrig was on the bench all the time, disguised as an errand boy.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Looking that way so far.
What is his pitch count at the moment?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Okay, I think I get this. If we score, Pedro gives up runs. If we don’t Pedro is shut-down. So uh…maybe don’t score?
As long as your direct correlation holds true, sure.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Jimmy still does not run out the play when he hits in the infield. He just jogs up the line. Am I wrong?
Didn't Charlie bench him for that last year?
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
who plays for him if he does bench him today?
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I was not making the comment to bench him, I was just making the comment as why is he so stubborn and just not play baseball the right way!
"He plays the game the right way."
Hopefully this doesn’t turn into a “really weird game.”
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
we Phillies fans love us some grit.
Phillies manage loves him some grits.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yes, wondering why he is not making it an issue this year. Or maybe he will. Hopefully we will not see next time he bats whether he is or not.
29?
I think he came in at .128, he’s now at .157.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Pedro back down to Moyer territory. 5.54 era
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Hamels has moved to Nether Hamels Township.
He needs to move back to Old Hamels Township.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Pedro might get through six yet.
I feel like this is mostly what well see from him, but there’ll be one game where he’s The Pedro of Old. That should be fun.
by dajafi on Aug 23, 2009 2:59 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
let's go
got Beardo comin up again this inning. Big things, boys, big things…
I’m totally dropping Utley from my fantasy team and picking Bruntlett up.
(I don’t have a fantasy team.)
that's not the Bruntlett I know
Chase obviously borrowed the beard for that at bat. Honestly, would we be able to tell them apart?
I don’t want to see Cory Sullivan up as the tying run – and I won’t! Checked him out and found out he was on the Rockies till last year. Somehow I forgot his great hitting vs. the Phillies.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 3:30 PM EDT reply actions
so much for that. He walks again. This walking stuff could have value.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Mets D/wild pitching in a run!
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 3:39 PM EDT reply actions
I thought we were gonna call it Lidge proofing????
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Aug 23, 2009 3:44 PM EDT reply actions
just have your post from last night ready to go just in case.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Part of blame goes to pitcher and part cause Ruiz only has average arm.
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Aug 23, 2009 3:49 PM EDT reply actions
Did Hernandez get a good swing on that pitch he hit for a double? GameCast spot has it way outside and landing in shallow left near the foul line.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
Madson left it high and outside, he smacked it just beyond the reach of Feliz down the LF line, and I’m sure you noticed the 0-2 count…
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Madson can sure be puzzling at times. Just when it looks like hitters have no chance against him he gets careless or misses his spots.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice, with the Richard Wagner ( Vah-gner) reference.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
btw anyone know the status of this deal to the Red Sox? Seems odd he’s still getting used?
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
FM, even on foul ball swings, look how out-of-balance Ibanez lands. I just don’t remember him doing that earlier this year.
he gets hurt AND the umps blew the call.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions
what happened to triple,,, double and out at third instead??
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Aug 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no idea what happened there. Says Bruntlett lined out to right. ??
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Francoeur caught it and twisted his wrist. 2B ump called it a trap. Bruntlett ran to 3B. Umps conferred and overturned play. Manuel got tossed.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Frenchie at the center of two odd plays
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions
omg, come on. And he was so out.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Oh god
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Aug 23, 2009 4:07 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
truth, Lidge can’t be blamed on this, and most of the time im at the forefront of the lynch mob
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Aug 23, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Brunt back to zero
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Aug 23, 2009 4:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Back-to-back errors – you don’t see this team do that very often.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
of course if he(and the D) blow it, lynch mob will form to the rear.
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Aug 23, 2009 4:11 PM EDT reply actions
GameCast is so far behind this inning. Did Bruntlett turn the TP?
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions
I wonder if that has EVER happened. Wow.
by phillyinportland on Aug 23, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Only 15 unassisted, so, probably not of that variety at least.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
There is a broken link
On MarlinsBaseball.com, there is something about a walk-off triple play but I can’t read it.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
might be another first for kurkjian
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Aug 23, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve seen them before, but never to END THE FRIGGIN GAME.
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Post game just said first time in history
What about the brief case? You forgot the brief case! I'm going home! So clear a path, you motherf*ckers! Clear a path! I'M GOING HOME! -Bill Foster
now aren’t you glad you hung in to watch?
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Heart still racing.
Not too much caffeine either.
God bless us ev’ry one.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
Top of the World Ma!
“Climb on my back boys, we’re going back to the WS!!”
by Wet Luzinski on Aug 23, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
and Frenchie LaRue continues
his eerie habit of being in the middle of the strangest plays this series.
Today exemplified it I think.
Lousy pitching, not-quite-enough offense, bad luck.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
CSN reporting
it is the first time game has ended on a UA triple play. Which means…
ERIC BRUNTLETT MAY GO TO THE HALL OF FAME.
Yup – according to SABR, there have been two other 9th inning unassisted triple plays, but in both cases, the home team was in the field.
Yes, but one team was winning and the other was losing so one of those situations was the end of the game.
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Aug 23, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
5/31/1927 UTP to end game ( home team ahead 1-0 Top 9). It was 4th TP in a week, 3rd in 3 days and 2nd UTP in two days.
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Aug 23, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
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