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Phillies Breakfast Links, August 5, 2009: Juggling the Rotation, Offensive Slump, Seniority Wins

 

McCaffery: Work remains to make Phils complete
When you see Jack's tooth headshot next to the byline, you know you're in for a treat.

 

Furious Prince Fielder is stopped at Dodgers' door

"We don't want the same situation as last year in the playoffs, when Philly threw at Manny and we didn't retaliate," (Russell) Martin said, referring to last fall's NL championship series against the Phillies. "We don't want to be known as a team that doesn't have each other's backs."

Russell, what in the sam hell are you talking about? How about when your guy threw at Shane Victorino's head? Idiot. You just got your asses beat, that's all.

 

OFFENSIVE OFFENSE - Philled In
I'd be curious to see how most other team's do with home runs as a percentage of total runs scored. Anyway, saying a team hits "too many homers" is like saying a girl is too good at, well, you know...

 

Sam Donnellon: Phillies should be looking for best possible pitching rotation
All over the place in this article -- Jamie Moyer should come out of the rotation because he has a bad ERA, but should stay in because he has 10 wins. Pedro Martinez should pitch out of the bullpen because he has incentives in his contract for doing so, and Greg Maddux did it last year, and on it goes...

Star-divide

 

Phillies Notebook: Phillies' Lee trade shows importance of good draft picks
Signing Brody Colvin would make this year's draft a success, in my opinion.

 

Dominican outfielder pursues American Dream
Nice article about a Dominican kid, picked by the Phillies in the 48th round of this year's draft.

 

Happ belongs in Phillies' rotation
I started reading this article thinking it had so much promise, until it was Pedro he wanted to relegate to the 'pen, and not Jamie Moyer.

 

Lefty Way promoted to Lakewood
Matt Way, 2009 draft pick. He was old for Williamsport, but it'll be exciting if he continues to dominate for Lakewood.

 

Baseball Fantasy Camp with Ryan Howard and Jimmy Rollins - FunnyOrDie.com
I'm sure most of you have seen this already, but it's still funny.

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A six man rotation???

Gonzalez’ article claims that Ruben is musing about a six man rotation. He’s got to be kidding, right? Please…just put Moyer in the pen. We can’t afford more days between starts for Cole, Cliff and Joe. We need to get some wins. Everybody’s yappin (me included) about the post-season following the trade. But there are still 58 games left in the season. With a five game lead, it’s still not panic time, but we need to get back to our winning ways…and soon.

by Boundforbeach on Aug 5, 2009 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

my idea

6-man, but don’t change the intervals, just alternate Pedro and Moyer.

by Wet Luzinski on Aug 5, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moyer needs to go to the bullpen

Just because he has 10 wins doesn’t mean he should be in the rotation, donellon. you never know what you’re going to get with moyer anymore. just because he’s an all around good dude and a hometown sentimental favorite doesn’t mean he should stay in the rotation – that’s not how we win back to back titles!

by DeuceisLoose926 on Aug 5, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, thats true, but, from what Pedros showed in the minors, 4 innings is about his limit. So Im not sure hes a good option either.

by philiafan14364 on Aug 5, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Moyer in the pen?

What makes you think he’d be any more successful there? As long as it takes him to warm up—having to pitch every day—I don’t see that as a viable option. If anything, the Phils will have to sit him or send him down to make room for someone. If Jamie Moyer is moved out of the rotation at all, which I seriously doubt will happen—it won’t be to the bullpen. I don’t know if the Phils would have the cajones to cut him and admit their mistake if he keeps going downhill, but right now he’s been pretty consistent with the good start/bad start thing which is what is keeping his spot.

Oh, and Russell Martin is a whiner.

by doubleh on Aug 5, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Changing the Line-Up

Moyer, I thought when we got Lee he was out as a starter. He might have 10 wins against bad teams a few good ones, But he is almost an instant loss. Howard is on a slump get him out of clean up put Ibanez in front of him and put him we Ibanez is. Bases loaded last night I have total confidence that Ibanez would have got an RBI or more then. but Howard swings at a pitch that would have been a baseloaaded walk. But I am not in a panic. I would rather lose to possible wild card teams now and stomp then when it counts.

by Christopher A on Aug 5, 2009 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Happ to the pen?

Zolecki seems pretty confident here

I agree that it makes very little sense to stop throwing our 2/3rd best pitcher regularly, but the cutdown of IP would be welcomed. also, someone is bound to be terrible or get injured, right? so he’ll be back?

by char6587 on Aug 5, 2009 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

"bound to be terrible"

You make it sound like Moyer isnt already terrible

by philiafan14364 on Aug 5, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

He isn’t. He has a 4.45 ERA since mid-May, and a 4.76 ERA minus two games in early May when he was hammered. He hasn’t been particularly good either, but fair is fair.

by taco pal on Aug 5, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess "fair" is the right word...

You can’t expect to have your no. 5 starter be a stud. Not many teams have such a luxury. But I think the venom on the threads about Moyer’s performance of late is more tied to our belief that they are going to relegate Happ to the pen. Just doesn’t seem right.

by Boundforbeach on Aug 5, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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