Cliffhanger: Phillies 3, Rockies 1
Against a considerably tougher lineup than the one he dominated in San Francisco Friday night, Cliff Lee brought the goods Thursday afternoon in his home Phillies debut: seven innings, six hits, one run, one walk, nine strikeouts. Jimmy Rollins and--wait for it--Paul Bako held up the offensive end as the Phils finished their three-game set against the Rockies with a 3-1 win.
Lee did lead the American League in hits allowed, so perhaps it shouldn't have been that surprising when the Rockies greeted him with a Dexter Fowler double and Seth Smith infield single to start the game. Todd Helton's sacrifice fly scored Fowler to give Colorado a 1-0 lead, but that was pretty much it: only one more Rockies baserunner (Aaron Cook, who reached on a Lee error) made it even as far as second base. Showing a more effective changeup than he had in his first Phillies start, Lee got swinging strikes all day, fanning Troy Tulowitzki twice and Chris Ianetta three times.
Rollins quickly got the Phillies tied up with a leadoff double in the bottom of the first, advancing to third on Shane Victorino's groundout and scoring on a deep sac fly off the bat of Chase Utley. The game remained deadlocked until the fifth, when Bako drove a Cook pitch out to deep right center as broadcaster Gary Matthews, like the rest of us except for the being on TV part, stammered in disbelief. Rollins followed two hitters later with a triple, and scored on a Victorino grounder that second baseman Cliff Barmes fired up the third base line, out of Ianetta's reach.
Ryan Madson and Brad Lidge finished up with scoreless innings, Lidge wielding a sharp slider to notch two strikeouts en route to his 21st save of the season.
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Sheesh, break up the Nats. Wouldn’t be the first time they did us a huge favor (see 9/2007 vs. the Mets).
12-8 now. Thanks to a balk and a single by Elijah Dukes.
by WanderingMoses on Aug 6, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
and just to pick up on a comment on the game thread, the Bako HR was almost exactly a 1 out of 100 AB occurrence. And the throw to the plate from Barmes was uncharacteristically bad. We had some good luck today.
No – but the DLO in Los Angeles does it for him….and that’s your obscure (bad) movie reference for the day.
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by jemagee on Aug 6, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear God
Starring Greg Kinnear? Is that the reference?
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
I certainly hope there aren’t TWO movies where reject postal workers and an ex-con working in the DLO of the Los ANgeles Post office answer God’s mail.
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by jemagee on Aug 6, 2009 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Well me too
I’m still ashamed that I knew the one
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
Next time I’ll try to be more obscure – i can do it
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by jemagee on Aug 6, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That was a pretty obscure one
No knock on the effort there
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
It's two starts, dude.
I mean, I’m all thrilled and everything, but geez….the guy isn’t Cy Young yet. Ok, he won a Cy Young, but he isn’t Cy Young.
I recall now a sign I saw in the stands when watching a Detroit Lions Thanksgiving Day game in the eighties: “Hipple is God!” Eric Hipple had made a couple of good starts. Lions fans, clearly and justifiably desperate to believe that the messiah had arrived, were buying. Clearly not god, however.
Lee may have more of a chance to be sustainably good, but let’s not let “shiny new” get us all anime-eyed this just yet.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Aug 6, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If this were the first two starts of his career you might have a point – but – well – it’s not – it’s just a continuation of good pitching and questionable run support
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by jemagee on Aug 6, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
His career
has not been that awe-inspiring, honestly.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Aug 6, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
the past season and half have been better than any pitcher on the phillies staff before he got here
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by jemagee on Aug 6, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
That 18-win campaign in 2005 was also not too shabby.
In fact, Lee’s career W/L record after today is 85-48. That’s quite good.
I was not thinking won loss record as much as he pitches pretty darn good consistently :)
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by jemagee on Aug 6, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
W/L
I know that W/L isn’t a great indicator insomuch as when some schnook goes 10-0 with a 6 ERA for the Yankees, it doesn’t elevate him from the mire of suck. But when a guy has more than 130 career decisions and has won almost two-thirds of them, that’s a pretty good indication he’s consistently done something right.
but he’s only 9-9 this year :)
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by jemagee on Aug 6, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
i would say being able to win seven games with the Indians is still pretty good
even with the 9 L’s, they are the Nationals of the American League.
Career ERA+ = 110
See also:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/earned_run_avg_plus_active.shtml
His comps aren’t god-like, either:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/leecl02.shtml
Do I think the Phillies got a pretty good pitcher who will likely help this year and next (and inexpensively at that)? Sure. Is this the same as getting Greg Maddux from the Cubs? No. I don’t think anyone said the latter, but an OP equated Lee with a baseball god. He’s not. He’s good (right now), but he’s not the second coming of (young) Pedro1, Randy Johnson, Bob Gibson, or Steve Carlton.
1 We already have, of course, the second coming of Pedro. Sloppy seconds, if you will. Not likely to be pretty for the long run, but may be fun while it lasts.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Aug 7, 2009 7:58 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t think the person who said that about Lee meant it literally. And there’s a wide gulf between “pretty good pitcher” and prime Greg Maddux or Pedro Martinez.
Also, I don’t know that it’s analytically sound to just tally up Lee’s career stats, because his career trajectory hasn’t been typical. We’re getting him in his prime and he wouldn’t be the first baseball player to put it all together in his prime abruptly rather than showing gradual improvement like a normal player. He might only be a 110 ERA+ pitcher for us going forward, but I think that’s a floor, not a median estimate.
Great game today.
On a side note. We can see the game in Hi-def , streamed over the internet in high quality, good quality satellite radio …. But if you can’t get to one of those options and can only listen to regular radio it only comes in on a shitty AM station. I think you would get better audio quality from a Victrola. How the hell has there been no thought to broadcast the games on FM radio?
What about the brief case? You forgot the brief case! I'm going home! So clear a path, you motherf*ckers! Clear a path! I'M GOING HOME! -Bill Foster
Cliff Lee
Who idiocally would rather see Carlos Carrasco in the rotation. Ultimately we gave up nothing for a very good pitcher. My prediction is that Knapp encounters major arm problems and washes out before age 23. Marson becomes a servicable backup catcher, eventually labeled as good defense and arm but stats less than Carlos Ruiz. Donald never makes an impact anywhere. Carrasco is another version of Rodrigo Lopez (hello we already have him). We are winning it all!!

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