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Yer Blues: Marlins 12, Phillies 3

How should we think about this weekend's traveshamockery of a home sweep at the hands of the Florida Marlins? Was it merely a series of unfortunate events? Regression to various means (the wild good fortune of July, Jamie Moyer's dominance of the Marlins, etc)? An unfortunate but salutary corrective to the whiff of overconfidence that had scented the air in South Philadelphia? A harrowing display of all the Phillies' deepest weaknesses? 

Define it how you will, but the conclusion was one of the Phillies' worst losses of the 2009 season, punctuated by one of the worst innings you'll ever see in the top of the 7th. The Phils trailed 3-1 after home plate umpire Ed Rapuano had called Ryan Howard out on a full-count pitch to end the bottom of the sixth. A walk would have loaded the bases and brought Raul Ibanez up to face a tiring Josh Johnson, and tensions in the Phils dugout and in the sold-out stands were high. With Rodrigo Lopez on in relief, facing Wes Helms with two strikes, Rapuano called a close pitch inside for a ball. Three hundred-plus feet away, Shane Victorino raised his hands in disbelief--and Rapuano ejected him. Jayson Werth came in to replace Victorino... and quickly committed two errors as the Marlins went on to score six runs in the inning, all with two outs.  

The Phils' frustration with Rapuano had begun much earlier. In the bottom of the first, Jimmy Rollins led off with a single and Victorino followed with a four pitch walk. Unable to command his fastball, Johnson threw two more balls to Chase Utley--then got back to 2-2 as Rapuano called two balls that looked well outside as strikes. After a nine-pitch battle, Utley followed with a deep flyout to center that moved Rollins to third. Howard launched another deep drive that Jeremy Hermida caught against the fence, with Rollins scoring just before Hermida's throw doubled Victorino off first. The home club had a 1-0 lead, but the Marlins ace was dominant--helped by two more double-play balls--over the next four innings, until Rapuano helped him again.

Meanwhile, in the early going it looked like Moyer might just bedevil Florida yet again as the Marlins stranded six base runners through the first four innings. But in the fifth, Emilio Bonafacio reached base on a one-out bunt that Paul Bako couldn't pick up. Hanley Ramirez followed with a soft single to center. Then Jorge Cantu, Helms and the inevitable Cody Ross each dropped perfectly placed singles to score one run, as Moyer's inability to put away hitters with two strikes stung him yet again. He left after the first two men reached in the sixth inning, having allowed 11 hits--all singles.   The extra base hits came later, against hapless relievers Rodrigo Lopez and, inevitably, Brad Lidge, who was torched again for three relatively meaningless runs in the top of the ninth. 

With the Marlins enjoying new life in the NL East race, they go on to face Houston at home. After an off-day to suck on this one, the Phillies and their unsettled starting rotation head to Chicago for a series with the Cubs

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Ugh, glad I missed this one. I still think last night’s loss — Hamels vs. West, tons of wasted baserunners — is the worst, but whatever the case, getting swept at home by your nearest division rival is completely inexcusable.

My level of confidence in our starters looks like this right now:

1. Lee
2. Happ
3. Blanton
4. Hamels
5. Pedro

34. Moyer

by PhillyFriar on Aug 9, 2009 5:19 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Let’s see…

Moyer 5 innings, 2 Earned Runs
Lopez 0.2 innings, 6 Earned Runs
Lidge 1 inning, 3 earned Runs

Errors: Marlins 0, Phillies 3

It’s not Moyer who let the side down in this one…it was relief pitching and defense (or defense and relief pitching).

Seriously…if the Phillies make the playoffs, who is the 5th starter will become moot…the 5th starter will not start anymore.

However…the bullpen will be very important (as will defense).

by JWoody on Aug 9, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Moyer: 12 baserunners in five innings. He was incredibly fortunate not to have given up more runs, but your larger point — that this game was a Total Team Suck — is completely valid.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Aug 9, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lidge is just all kinds of awful. They really ought to do something about him.

by FuquaManuel on Aug 9, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is this what Mets fans felt like?

by FuquaManuel on Aug 9, 2009 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

No

Mets fans feel like Michael Jackson

by phatj on Aug 9, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dead?

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Aug 9, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Check the tense. I said “felt,” you said "feel.’

by FuquaManuel on Aug 9, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Like the rest of the season, let's the road will cure their ills

The fish did have just about everything go there way in the series, so I’m not too worried.
I’ll take a 4 game lead. Bullpen needs to get healthy.

by phillynyc on Aug 9, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey guys, Braves fan here...

Ok so next weekend we’ll have a big series.

What is the thought on who stays in the rotation between Happ, Moyer and Pedro?

Hamels is set to face Jurrjens on Friday (which should be a helluva game)

But who pitches Saturday and SUnday against Kawakami and Javy Vazquez? We were trying to figure it out over on Talking Chop.

7/24/2009 - "The Phillies are too far ahead in the NL East for the Braves to make a run." - Buster Olney

REMEMBER THAT BOYS.

by Scott Coleman on Aug 9, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

nobody knows

They haven’t even announced who will start the next three games against the Cubs.

Right now the Phillies technically have six starters: Lee, Blanton, Happ, Hamels, Martinez, Moyer (in order of how trustworthy I’d deem them at the moment). Moyer should be gone, but he probably won’t be. Happ threw a ton of pitches in his last start Wednesday night; Pedro made his presumably last minor-league rehab start that same night. They have an off-day tomorrow (Monday).

Probably a decent guess, or maybe just the way I’d do it were it my decision, is that it’ll be Lee, Happ, Martinez, Blanton, Hamels, Lee between Tuesday and Sunday, which would mean Blanton/Jurrjens, Hamels/Kawakami, Lee/Vazquez. But who knows.

by dajafi on Aug 9, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I thought Shane was storming in from the outfield because he was just so damn sick of Bako’s incompetence, he had decided to unleash a furious beat down on him between pitches.

http://thatballsouttahere.com

by JKlugh on Aug 9, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

This is what I was hoping.

But, seriously, Bako and Bruntlett need to have a cage match, to determine which one of them can remain on the roster.

by MS35 on Aug 10, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

lidge

im not that concerned with brad lidge, the marlins had a six run lead, he always struggles with non-save situations, not even sure why manuel sent him out, probably just to give him some work, but the guy is perfect in saves since he came off the dl and that save against the rockies looked like old lidge, there are other more concerning things with this team, the offensive slumps right now for one, they need to get out of them in a hurry, ibanez needs to hit a homerun, i feel it will loosen him up again to start delivering more rbis

by PhilsForever on Aug 10, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Well, if Lidge had been fine otherwise I might be inclined to agree… but he’s struggled in all situations this year. Save and non-save alike.

To me, he’s the #1 problem right now. There’s nothing you can do with the offense. The lineup is what it is, more often than not it will be fine.

by JasonB on Aug 10, 2009 4:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ibanez is on the juice...

oh wait…that was a couple of months ago. People (not you…just saying from that frenzy earlier this year) are idiots.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Aug 10, 2009 7:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Utley's No-Walk, Howard's Strikeout

I went back and looked at the gameday feature (free) that mlb.com has, you can re-watch every at-bat during the game, and found that Rapuano called strikes down and away to left-handed hitters (down and in to righties). The 2 called strikes after the first to balls on Utley were balls, he should have walked. Howard’s strikeout though…that was a strikeout….the ball was a little low and away, but still in the strike zone. Not like that really matters because he was calling the non-strikes too. This is the kind of umpire that’s supposedly perfect for Moyer, right?

What are you talking about?

by shiiro126029 on Aug 10, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

It's ok to have some variability in

strike zone, so long as the umpire is consistent throughout the game. To me, that’s the key. It’ll never be perfectly knees to nipples, black to black.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Aug 10, 2009 7:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

What a brutal week-end

The Phillies should be ashamed of themselves to play like that in front of their home crowd.

by Freddyd on Aug 10, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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