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The Incredible Disappearing Phillies Offense

During last night's game, as Pedro Martinez improbably made a 1-0 lead hold up against his former Mets teammates, ESPN ran a series of numbers comparing the Phillies' offense through late July to its performance since then. The numbers, now updated through last night's game, are fairly stunning: the club averaged 5.5 runs per game through July 28, a span of 98 games, and just 4.0 since then. As a team, the Phils hit .262/.343/.451 through 98 games, but just .248/.313/.451 since. The dropoff largely explains why the Phillies are 24-20 since then--and that owing largely to mostly stellar work from Martinez and Cliff Lee--compared to 58-40 beforehand. 

What's the culprit? Atrocious situational hitting--the team is dead last in batting average with runners in scoring position, and continued its RISP woes with a combined 2-for-15 performance in yesterday's doubleheader--is the most obvious answer. But like the overall bad numbers, the Phillies' RISP struggles are effect, not cause. I'd put it on a walk rate that's fallen by nearly a quarter: the club averaged 3.9 bases on balls per game through July 28, just 3.0 since. Home runs per game are actually slightly up, from 1.4 to 1.5, and men left on base are actually down (7.5 before, 7.2 since). But the hitters have been pressing, trying to make things happen rather than easing pitchers into ever-tighter spots: witness Jayson Werth's 3-0 groundout on Saturday afternoon, immediately ahead of hits by Raul Ibanez and Pedro Feliz, or Ibanez reaching out on a full-count pitch in the first game Sunday to ground out with the bases loaded. In five games against the Giants and Astros from September 2 through 6, the Phils drew five walks combined--an unthinkably low total for a team built almost as much on patience as on power.

To be fair, not every Phillie has scuffled over the last month and a half--in fact, four of the eight lineup regulars have an OPS over .900 in that stretch. But sharp dropoffs from Feliz, Ibanez, and Shane Victorino, and the continuing on-base struggles of Jimmy Rollins, have pushed the team into the once-unimaginable role of having to win games with pitching. Given both the low scoring and the ongoing miseries of the bullpen, that 24-20 record since the end of July actually looks as much like good fortune as anything.

Individual splits after the jump. 

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Name PA, 7/29-9/13 Avg/OBP/SLG thru 7/28 Avg/OBP/SLG, 7/29-9/13
Carlos Ruiz 120 .230/.328/.380 .306/.407/.520
Ryan Howard 189 .265/.350/.541 .284/.349/.586
Chase Utley 180 .305/.425/.554 .273/.389/.586
Jimmy Rollins 197 .236/.288/.383 .262/.291/.465
Pedro Feliz 169 .294/.342/.404 .214/.250/.365
Raul Ibanez 162 .305/.367/.642 .224/.296/.408
Shane Victorino 171 .317./383/.473 .250/.316/.417
Jayson Werth 170 .266/.381/.500 .268/.341/.562

The drop-off of nearly a full walk per game makes sense when one observes that Howard, Rollins (!), Feliz and Werth all have seen the daylight between their batting average and on base percentage--essentially, their walk rate--shrink dramatically since July 29. Ruiz, Utley and Victorino are all about the same, with Utley's rate burnished by six hit-by-pitches; only Ibanez, in the midst of his offensive collapse, has increased the gap between his batting average and on-base percentage. 

What's the answer? Maybe the hitters will stop squeezing the bats into sawdust if and when the Phils finally secure a playoff berth--and some rest might do for the likes of Victorino and Feliz. (I think the absence of Greg Dobbs these last few weeks has been an underrated factor in the Phils' offensive struggles; Dobbs at third against some tough righties could have made the difference in a game or two at least.) I'd still take Jimmy Rollins out of the leadoff spot: whatever he seems to think, his numbers increasingly show the profile of a down-in-the-order power hitter. The power surges of Howard and Werth somewhat justify that they're walking less; you'd always rather them jog around all the bases than just to first. 

In any case, the team can take some comfort from having been here before: last year's offense too was oddly feeble from July on, and that turned out okay. But they had a bulletproof bullpen then; now, not so much. It's likely that unless the offense rediscovers something like its April-July form, the 2009 season will end less happily than did 2008. 

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At these rates,

Chooch should be batting leadoff. Heck, I’d bat him second behind Victorino (a tribute lineup to the late great Danny Ozark).

Point about Dobbs (and a wider one about the sucktastic Bench Mutts of 2009) is a good one. Another reason Rollins and Victorino have to get on (and preferably get to 2nd) to keep opposing defenses from setting up the full-blown shift and keeping the 3B on the left side.

Worthy of another post is the incredible cliff dive in offense from Jimmy Rollins. No matter what happens at this point, 2009 may wind up his worst year ever, tho’ defensively he is imho as good as ever. He’ll be pot #1 on the hot stove whenever it begins.

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 14, 2009 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know that the cliff dive is, in fact, worthy of another post. It generated more than enough of those during the spring months, which is when it happened. His post-ASB OPS is .778 (that is, roughly his career average). Granted, his OBP still sucks.

by taco pal on Sep 14, 2009 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Rollins’ OPS so far in September (14 games) is .642

by schmenkman on Sep 14, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s having a bad september?:)

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by jemagee on Sep 15, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a bit concerned...

What’s brought on this spate of snarky comments with a smirk, rather than the typical viciously sarcastic nitpicky ones? Have you seen a doctor for it?

by Steve J on Sep 15, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your concern is noted

And ignored.

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by jemagee on Sep 15, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We did go through an outage of comparable length last year, and we got through it okay. So maybe it’s just a fluke. Also, perhaps pitchers have changed their approach against us and we haven’t adjusted yet. The “pressing” explanation is as good as any of those, though.

by taco pal on Sep 14, 2009 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

This year does seem eerily similar to last year. However, when you say we might be in trouble since we had a “bulletproof” bullpen last year, I think statement needs to be countered by the fact that we have an almost bulletproof starting rotation this year.

by philiafan14364 on Sep 14, 2009 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I like our rotation, but I wouldn’t go that far. Probably I’d take the Cards rotation over ours, and the Dodgers are almost as good, depending on health.

If they’re going to win, the bats need to wake up.

by dajafi on Sep 14, 2009 11:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I noticed the lack of walks problem during the Houston series. One of those games the phils walked 0 times at all, which is tough to do when not facing an awesome pitcher. Also noticed Werth’s 3-0 groundout yesterday too.

The lineup just isn’t as patient, and I’m sure opposing staffs have been told that.

I remember one of my co-workers saying he played on a for-fun baseball team with Doug Glanville’s brother. The strategy with that guy was to pitch him two horrible pitches, get him to 2-0, then try and throw a marginal pitch because he’d always swing 2-0, and usually flub it somewhere for an out.

If you have a Phils batter 3-2, throw him a ball. He’ll swing.

by Bilzo on Sep 14, 2009 9:21 PM EDT reply actions  

It is a mystery to me why the Phillies would be pressing. Almost everything I read about this team indicates that they are the epitome of confident/relaxed. This whole thing is really confusing, or maybe it is just a part of the “ebb and flow” of a season.

by threezerofour on Sep 15, 2009 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

The ‘pressure to repeat’ could be all the explanation for ‘pressing’ that you need…

Or Lidge’s piss poor performance puts pressure on the offense to score more runs so that they don’t have to depend on the bullpen in close games and thus they ‘press’ to get hits to score runs.

Or maybe they are just having a bad spell and aren’t pressing at all….

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by jemagee on Sep 15, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rollins

September traditionally has been his best month, with a career .290/.345/.479 line. And in general he’s been a great second-half player.

But this has been such a weird year for Jimmy that I’m not sure how confident I really am that he’ll turn it on in the last few weeks as he has in the past.

by dajafi on Sep 15, 2009 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Is it possible that this is just the ‘beginning of the downside’ of Jimmy’s career?

He’ll be 31 in November…

I hope not cause along with having no future 3rd baseman the future short stop may have been traded for Joe Blanton?

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by jemagee on Sep 15, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess it’s possible, but I think a more likely explanation is that Jimmy’s skill set is changing as he ages. Specifically, he’s becoming more of a power hitter. As I keep saying, I’d bat him sixth or so next year and have done with it.

That his defense hasn’t fallen off I think argues against the early-decline idea.

by dajafi on Sep 15, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

that’s a good point dajafi. I hadn’t really considered that approach to his batting. He still is a very good fielder. Fact is, he just doesn’t get on base enough to warrant being the leadoff hitter. The Phillies publicized perception is that he WANTS to bat at the top of the order, but fact is, his OBP (aside from that MVP year) has never really been leadoff worthy. Maybe now he can relent and agree and go to a #6-7 spot in the lineup.

He does seem to hit lots of ground balls to IFers as well as weak pop ups.

by Bilzo on Sep 15, 2009 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s never been lead off worthy and never relented – and Charlie seems to be in the same school that ‘Jimmy Rollins is a lead off man’ – not sure why – I don’t see that changing any time soon

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by jemagee on Sep 15, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, when he’s hitting .280 and OBPing .335-.340 you can live with it because of the speed and the added power dimension. But he’s had a sub-Feliz OBP all year.

My other issue is that I think if you put Victorino in the leadoff spot, he becomes more selective—not that I’m sure I could quantify that, maybe it’s wishful thinking, but I’d love to see what he did in an extended tryout there.

by dajafi on Sep 15, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

You could even flip Chase and Werth and break up the three straight lefties. I know Utley’s been good as a #3 hitter but I don’t see why he couldn’t be just as effective at #2.

by phillyinportland on Sep 16, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

The interesting (and upsetting) thing with Rollins is that, in 2008, it looked like he might be changing into more of a typical “leadoff guy.” Career high OBP and SB, but with greatly reduced power. Now, it’s like the opposite; it’s all down but the power.

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by WholeCamels on Sep 16, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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