Elevator Overload: Nationals at Phillies Game Thread, September 16, 2009
by WholeCamels on Sep 16, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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Washington Nationals at Philadelphia Phillies, Sep 16, 2009 7:05 PM EDT
Rematch! Joe Blanton looks to rebound from his terrible start last week in Washington, versus Livan Hernandez, who was surprisingly good.
Discuss the game below.
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Cookies not looking so strong. I seriously would’ve considered swapping starters if possible. He pitches pretty good against everybody else, and like a poop sandwich against the Nats. Maybe…..quit pitching him against the Nats.
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Check out this link.
See anything here that is an indicator of why somebody might be hitting poorly this year?
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/sortable/index.php?cid=520085
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy Popup?
If that’s what you’re referring to, question is whether that’s cause or effect.
by dajafi on Sep 16, 2009 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep…..
For those of you not clicking…
Rollins pops up 11.1% of PAs. Of all MLB hitters in the top 30 in PAs, Rollins ranks 2rd in pop-up age behind Vernon Wells (13.0).
Whats worse…Jimmy’s FB/GB numbers are 29%/41%. That means that when he does put it in the air, he’s keeping it in the infield about 35% of the time. That’s atrocious.
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also gidp was much higher than it should be
especially with his supposed speed
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Shane?
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Sep 16, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vic is 10.5%, or 4th worst amongst the top 30 in PAs behind:
Vernon Wells
Rollins
Granderson (11.0%)
That’s some pretty bad performance amongst your desired OBP guys with speed.
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BP does not include popups as flyballs. So it’s not quite 35% of the time. It’s 11%/(11%+29%), so it’s about 27-28%.
by Matt Swartz on Sep 16, 2009 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for clarifying Matt. But you’ve made basically said that it means he hits into a flyout/popup 40% of his ABs.
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also…I think it’s ‘cause’.
Looks to me the typical pop up rate is about 7-8%.
Rollins #’s over the past 5 years: Pop up / Line Drive
2009: 11.1% / 18.5%
2008: 6.5% / 20.7%
2007: 9.1% / 19.9%
2006: 7.3% / 19.3%
2005: 8.0% / 21.0%
LD % held steady at about 20% from 2005-2008. PU% 6-9%. This year, LD down PU up.
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was awesome
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
in class
explain what happened
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 16, 2009 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
double steal howard of second, Chase of home
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
did P or C throw to 2nd then chase broke for home or was it straight steal like werth’s
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 16, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and as our meme is to pick on Rollins (after a good game last night btw), this was a (proper) replay of a double steal where Rollins brain cramped at third last week.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Catcher threw through, foolishly, without even looking Utley back to third. Chase took off as soon as Nieves released it, and came home w/o a throw
by dajafi on Sep 16, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is ballsy
Werth doing the playcalling?
by vanrambler on Sep 16, 2009 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty sure Chase hasn’t been caught stealing a single time this year (again, compare to J-Roll (or don’t))
by vanrambler on Sep 16, 2009 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
even Joe West couldn't screw that call up
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
easy there.
I think Cowboy can do anything he wants/
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks Cliff
At least the pen is rested
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 16, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Memo rec'd
Sorry this didn’t come to my attention last inning, I was busy.
But I did manage to strike out the heart of the order in the 3rd. Hope it wasn’t too late.
Yours,
Joe B.
by vanrambler on Sep 16, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if anyone has noticed this,
but the Nats are kind of bad.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's true
But Big Joe sure tries to help em out
by vanrambler on Sep 16, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe Ibanez should pitch
The Nats are the only team he’s good against these days. (Okay, that was unnecessarily cruel. Sorry Raul…)
by vanrambler on Sep 16, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Livan might go the full 17 innings tonight.
by dajafi on Sep 16, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is amazing, huh? I mean, over the course of his career, his arm has been abused to a point that might even make Nolan Ryan cringe. I guess that’s why he’s topping out at 84 mph at this point, but hey — he’s a reasonable approximation for a #5 starter still, which is impressive.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 16, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burrell and Carl Crawford apparently had an incident today per WPHT radio…
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yahoo sports said
Crawford yelled at PB across clubhouse and then was restrained to a side room
Madden then talked to both and said all was good, haha
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wonder if wives, girlfriends, or the Baltimore “road crew” was involved. or PTB’s extraordinary suckitude was called on the carpet.
All is not jiffy. hell is falling out of contention.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Maddon is responsible for all the ‘greatness’ last year why isn’t he responsible for the major suckitude this year?
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 16, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
9+8=13 GB
I wonder about this dynamic of the championship loser collapsing to a far greater degree than the semifinal loser.
If the Phils can’t win another WS, the next best fate is to lose the NLCS.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha. A double to the pitcher. That’s a good idea.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 16, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one thing wrong with mlb.com
very often, they cut away too early and come back too late
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blantron 30, the Automator!
I’m worried about Joey B. He’s beginning and ending this year in a bad way. At least it looks like that now. Hopefully the Nats will let him off the hook (in Dennis Green voice).
If this team had its hitting, starting pitching AND bullpen all “on” at the same time, they’d probably have won the division by now.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Sep 16, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And by "this team"
I mean the Phils, of course.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Sep 16, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howard in a bit of a funk over the past week.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 16, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
again, the lack of walks. Normally after his en fuego streaks, opposition starts to stay away from him and his eye is good enough to lay off and take the BB. Not so much in Sept.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good ole Phils getting outhit again
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SJPP—re your ticket request from last night. Stay flexible and keep checking StubHub. The site closes about 3 hrs before the event (check the fine print), but I’ve also found some deals about 6-12 hrs before when you get the late cancellation crowd trying to unload at around face value. The 9a-12p time frame prior to a 7.05 start is when you may get lucky.
The Phils are in constant sellout mode now, and now people are guessing trying to pick a clincher, so expect to pay a bit of a premium, esp. on weekends.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should be clinched by then
got 2 tix for fridays game on Phils site
will prob take your advice re the sunday game
btw its last weekend of season been to a few of those weekends
went to close the Vet, cool weekend except we lost
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s an autumn chill in the air…
and an anticipation of October baseball, again.
by Ritty77 on Sep 16, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JIMee ROL-lins (clap clap clapclapclap)
Get the EFF on (clap clap clapclapclap)
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2nd night in a row that post has worked. Huh.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rollins didn't want to be outdone by Blanton
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah too many 1st strike popups
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gah...come on Blanton
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you Jayson
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Phillies haven’t allowed a run in 24 innings. Remarkable.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 16, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Haha, also it is remarkable how few of those innings are from the bull pen
by Whack8888 on Sep 16, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok Jayson good play in field, now good ab
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This Washington team is pitiful, as in I pity them.
Seriously: between their abysmal fundamentals, lousy (for now at least) pitching, and an announcing team that should be banned under the Geneva Convention, can you imagine rooting for them?
by dajafi on Sep 16, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hope CHoP can return to mid-season form. He’s not been very good of late.
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If I were a 5-15 year old kid in DC…yes I can.
This is essentially the Phils team I grew up rooting for in the mid 80’s, except it had Schmidt on the team.
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they have Zimmerman, pretty close.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 16, 2009 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
E Howard. 2 on, no out. We’ll fool around and lose to this bad team.
by Ritty77 on Sep 16, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Something tells me the bullpen will waste no time breaking up the scoreless streak.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 16, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice job to get the lead runner
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That had disater written all over it but we got the out.
by Ritty77 on Sep 16, 2009 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DP. Damn, we are getting some breaks from the Nats tinight.
by Ritty77 on Sep 16, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit
Park looks hurt. Down goes our best reliever.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 16, 2009 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CHoP hasn’t been very reliable lately.
By the way…what happened to Durbin???? Is he DL’ed or crap-listed?
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Durbin? Crap-listed.
And that’s kind of unfair to Park. He had a bad outing at Houston, but hadn’t surrendered a run before that since August 8. As a reliever on the year, he’s whiffed 52 while surrendering 42 hits and 16 walks in 49.0 innings — good for a 1.18 WHIP and a 2.57 ERA. In other words… our best relief pitcher.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 16, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little Leaguers
The Nationals need to back over the basics of baseball. These last two nights are an abhomination.
by Pedro45 on Sep 16, 2009 9:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
so's your spelling
Hoo-HAH!
(just kiddin’ ya, dude.)
(it’s ‘abomination’, btw)
by Bilzo on Sep 16, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn iPhone keypad letters too close together!!!
by Pedro45 on Sep 16, 2009 9:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Werthy slam!
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You knew it.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
by jonk on Sep 16, 2009 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
mlb.tv is really bad with cutting off the end-of-inning replays tonight
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you know I heard that somewhere before, oh wait it was me earlier
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol I do remember reading that
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bad start Madson. Strikes dummy. It’s a 6 run lead.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 16, 2009 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thaaaats it.
26 and counting. Lidge will probably come in and bungle it all up, but thats okay.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 16, 2009 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here comes the jinx again thanks TMac
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 16, 2009 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea 27 innings in 1995, CSN had a graphic and everything
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 16, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry that was meant as /sarc
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my b
yea didn’t know you were watching csn, lots watch mlb.tv etc
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 16, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 away from the club record and all…
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 16, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knew that defensive indifference advance would kill ’em…
26 2/3 IP
by dajafi on Sep 16, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A win’s a win. But it sure as hell would have been cool.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 16, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
d'oh...there it goes
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Winnah!
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 16, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Defensive Indifference
The core happening of Phillies 9th innings.
by RaptorLC on Sep 16, 2009 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
usually especially with Lidge
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 16, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, a ton of runs scored is the core happening with Lidge. He just minors in defensive indifference. =p
by RaptorLC on Sep 16, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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