Fishy Situation: Phillies at Marlins Game Thread, September 23, 2009
by WholeCamels on Sep 23, 2009 1:54 PM EDT
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Philadelphia Phillies at Florida Marlins, Sep 23, 2009 7:10 PM EDT
The Phillies play their last game in Florida until February tonight, as Cole Hamels takes on Dutch Master Rick Vanden Hurk for the Marlins.
Discuss the game below.
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well….cole managed to get past coughlan w/o giving up a hr.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There’s only two things I hate in this world: people who are intolerant of other people’s cultures and the Dutch.
by taco pal on Sep 23, 2009 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Austin Power’s Fajha
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 23, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
about as many here as there are in s. fla.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sail on, Mr. Dreamy McDreamboat!
(and nuts to you, Wes Helms)
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
?
what was his fault….in class as usual
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 23, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uggla stole second without a throw to home.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
J-Rollin’
Pesky no-out, ducks on the scoring position pond for Vic.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Rollins has 40 doubles?? Imagine how many he’d have if he hadn’t hit like crap for three months.
by taco pal on Sep 23, 2009 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pesky one-out, ducks on the scoring position pond for Utley.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pesky two-out, duck on the scoring position pond (and one at first) for Howard.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, that 1-2 pitch I thought was RIGHT there.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ump called it outside, but it looked like it had much of the plate.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woot, Howard comes through
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this was classic pitching and poor plate discipline by all three hitters.
All three phils batters (2-3-4) went up trying to pull the ball. All three have been pitched inside off the plate. If any batter had pulled off the pitch they’d have drilled it.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and >90% of the time he would have been called out on that 1-2 pitch.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Howard!
2- run double off the left field wall. On what appeared to be almost a check swing.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pesky two-out, duck on the scoring position pond for Werth.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McDreamboat slams the door on a 1-2-3 shutdown inning.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
phillies wanted Bako's hit !!!! anyone know why ??????
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It brings that sweet-swingin’ Dreamy McDreamboat to the plate?
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he gets so few hits, he keeps all the balls.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh oh
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened?
I dont get it on tv.
"Want a donut go to dunkin donuts, want a linebacker go to Penn State."
- Cris Carter, NFL Draft, 4/25/09
by kmblue on Sep 23, 2009 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
line drive to chase who threw to howard but he hit the runner and ball went into stands
runner goes to third
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cantu was doubled off on that line drive. Chase’s throw to first hit him and caromed into the stands. When ball goes out of play, baserunner gets bases headed to +1
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you've got to be fuuuuuuuuuuuuucking kidding me
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Howard hit the ball down the right field line
past Cantu but was still thrown out by Uggla from mid right field
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah crap
Now the Phils gotta score more runs
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want very bad things to happen to that little twit Cody Ross.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 8:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gah
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Something about this damn Marlins team just pisses me off to no end.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well that ainning suuuuuucked, thank god its over
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RAUUUUUUUUULLLL
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was just thinking hed looked like bad raul in that ab.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cole's been hitting the ball quite well tonight
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy’s BA and OBP seem destined to stay right around .245 and .290 for the rest of the season.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and he keeps swinging at pitches in his eyes and popping up
it surely won’t get any better
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How quickly can Cole re-surrender the lead?
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
as quickly it takes you to switch from wanting to lynch him to being his number 1 fan
its that quick
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Did he really just homer off of that lefty killer? Impressed I am.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oops
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah for the love of Christ Cole. Focus.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh no
madson’s up for the 8th….that means lidge in the 9th
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
god has a larger chance of saving this bullpen then getting you to say something positive for once
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something positive for once. Fucker.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as good as a gidp. just the fast forward button.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chooch being out of this lineup for an extended period of time really hurts.
by doubleh on Sep 23, 2009 9:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that's a lot of rain
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish !!! They have to wait something like at least 90 min
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Do they really? Even if radar says a hurricane is on its way? (not that there is—just a hypothetical)
by doubleh on Sep 23, 2009 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
talk about a spur of the moment rain delay. i dont know how people live in florida. i really dont.
by sixrfan on Sep 23, 2009 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My Grandmother lives there, but moved from Montana. Couldn’t shovel the snow anymore…so that’s why some people move there.
by doubleh on Sep 23, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we’ve got a thing that’s called radar love.
Spotty stuff floating off the ocean.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for you old school arcade junkies, this radar view kind of looks like the end of the old Missile Defense game. It looks like the entire Eastern U.S. just exploded in 9.30 pm rain.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Madson on the hill. We’re back.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh
Come on Madson, gotta get those outs now.
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That really hurts…because now it means that if Madson gets out of this, Lidge gets to face PH-1-2 in the 9th.
He’d have to K the side, because any of those guys gets on, they’re one 3rd.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
cole really didnt pitch that well tonight
by wxdavid on Sep 23, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't horrible.
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Sep 23, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt say it was Horrible but given the last several starts
I thought / think that cole didnt pitch all that well
not trying to be too critical
by wxdavid on Sep 23, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Margin for error gone!
Runs please!
Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?
by mikefive on Sep 23, 2009 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cole never pitches well in this yard, and rarely against this team.
Given that we seem to be under some weird curse in which Coughlan, Elftard and Paulino all bat around .500 against us, he did fine.
by dajafi on Sep 23, 2009 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, unfortunately we are gonna lose because the lead is 1 and Lidge is coming in. But it was fun nonetheless.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
let see if that "prediction " comes true
by wxdavid on Sep 23, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Statistics are on my side this time. His 1 run save record is not so good…so I am going to call AT LEAST a BS.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
d'oh, I didn't think he was going to catch that
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So that just happened.
Victorino’s really played with head up ass for the last few weeks.
by dajafi on Sep 23, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GAH!
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn, those are about the hardest hit outs you can possibly make.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 23, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously….1 run lead against this part of the marlins. please no lidge.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does anybody here expect him to NOT blow this save?
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have no bias one way or the other
lets see what happens
we can always bitch and whine 5 or 10 minutes from now
by wxdavid on Sep 23, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to completely not know what bias means.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to completely misspell ass. And I think “fuckface” is one word.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m gonna go with
walk
double
strikeout
two-run single
You?
by dajafi on Sep 23, 2009 10:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Single
Takes 2nd
Walk
Ground out
Double
Game.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooh, nice. Particularly the “takes second.”
by dajafi on Sep 23, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds about right.
The sad thing is… I’m honestly debating whether I want that to happen or not. Maybe it’s not worth asking that philosophical question… Charlie’s going to stick with him anyway methinks.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 23, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
single
2nd on def indiff
single, rbi
K
walkoff HR
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 10:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Actually, how about Coughlan ends it right here.
by dajafi on Sep 23, 2009 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder what the Fangraphs game graph would look like if it knew Lidge were in.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 23, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
our hard hit balls are caught theirs get thru for doubles
by wxdavid on Sep 23, 2009 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Problem is that they are hard hit.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d love to know what Charlie’s writing.
“Kill me?”
“WTF?”
“Why god why?”
by dajafi on Sep 23, 2009 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aww, Ross Gload
He was my favorite bench guy when he was with the White Sox. I miss him.
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So it’s gonna be walk, and then triple? Maybe a double will do.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ball 3 shoulda been strike 3
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought so too
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice!
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow. So who thinks he’ll get the last out?
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am fine with being spited by someone I will never meet.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, borderline. But it was close — maybe too close to take in a tight spot.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 23, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That being said, I’d be livid if I were a Marlins fan right now.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 23, 2009 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s hilarious here is listening to the difference between T-Mac and the Marlins announcers.
McCarthy: “Baker didn’t like it, but that was a pretty good pitch.”
Marlins guy: “Keep making bad calls, Sam Holbrook, and you’ll be throwing more people out of the game.”
by PhillyFriar on Sep 23, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
According to the MLB.com gamecast
It was spot on the low outside corner. Looked like a strike to me.
by wildcatlh on Sep 23, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ouch, ump be squeezin the plate
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that looked a little low
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think I’d roll one up there with this K zone.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
really not so bad. Cantu is a free-er swinger.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If this festering pustule Cantu beats us I may hurt someone.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blargh
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i would NOT hold Ramirez here. Let him go.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will the poster who had...
Double
Flyout
Strikeout
Walk
Single
Please come on down. You win the prize!
by PhillyFriar on Sep 23, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it happens. just gotta go back to the drawing board
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tell Charlie that, he doesn’t seem to realize there is a drawing board to be gone to.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not a lidge fan by any means
this is just something that happens
for the 11th time
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it happens again. And it will keep happening. What is wrong with you Mr. Lidge?
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hope the people in the theater get free booze or something if this goes to extras
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 23, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
T-Mac
“the optimist keeps thinking Lidge is going to go on one of his runs like last year”
The people paying attention realize he sucks this year and don’t understand why he keeps getting put in the game.
by Bilzo on Sep 23, 2009 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
as long as his home isn’t in philadelphia
i agree with this statement
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And now, Lidge's failure is complete.
Next verse, same as the first… 10 fucking times.
by RaptorLC on Sep 23, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cuba is 70 miles away, Brad. Request asylum.
by Wet Luzinski on Sep 23, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it me?
Or is this continued use of Lidge bordering on freaking insanity?
by Bob_StudioZ on Sep 23, 2009 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what are you going to do with him?
you could bench him?
you could let him keep on failing in a bullpen thats already thin?
you could take him out of the closers role, but theres so many other options, let me tell you?
you could trade him? I like this option
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PUt him on the 60 day DL let him get his head right in the off season and hope he comes back – he CAN NOT help this team win in the playoffs this year – so make room for someone else who MIGHT help
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
:::cries:::
Wwwhhhhhyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
That ball hit deep! Way back! You can put it on the boooaaaard...YES!
Long drive into deep right center field! This ball is OUTTA HEEERRRREE!
R.I.P. Harry Kalas 4-13-09
by HappyHuman on Sep 23, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Which one of you is a lawyerz – take charlie manuel to court and have him declared non compos mentis (sp?) – only possible explanation for this actual insanity that is brad lidge.
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are you supporting the trade lidge cause yet?
i started it about 2 months ago
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me exactly with his contract and his perfromance what GM would trade for him?
I support benching him until he gets his shiz straight – even if it takes the off season – he’s the same guy who was ‘perfect’ last year – or maybe he’s hurt and no one admits it
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we traded for him, didnt we? :)
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah – but he didn’t ahve 3 years left on his contract
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if i recall lidge had the meltdown in 2005, then a bad 2006, then a good 2007
then a trade to the phils in 08
so perhaps we accept that he’s gone after next year
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 23, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, say goodbye for now
Trading him is unfeasable and not realistic.
He needs to be put on the dl right now and we’ll see him again next spring. If it’s his knee or his head that needs to be fixed, so be it. Either way it ain’t happening now. Maybe it could be fixed by next year, but not now.
by JasonB on Sep 23, 2009 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
He’s literally sub-Eaton right now. Unlike Eaton, he’s not a lost cause; I can easily buy that next spring he’ll be effective. But it’s not coming back in the next two weeks, and the cost of Manuel’s failure to recognize that keeps going up.
by dajafi on Sep 23, 2009 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definition of insanity
trying the same thing and expecting a different result
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Over from the minute he toed the rubber.
Charlie, there is no chance he helps this team…just stop it. I am begging you.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Charlie deserved to be ripped. The reporters need to step up and press him about why he continues this nonsense. This is an absolute joke at ths point.
Brad lidge isn’t the problem. It’s cholly.
by JasonB on Sep 23, 2009 11:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The right thing for LIdge to do right now would be to be honest with himself and Charlie and just say he can’t do it — he has a mountain of statistical evidence to back himself up — because Charlie will sure as hell keep doing the bitter end.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The flaw is on Manuel then – and honestly – if he keeps running Lidge out there in the playoffs and he keeps failing – he’s gotta go – it’s like bobby clarke on the flyers or keeping billy king as gm on the sixers – there is a thing as TOO MUCH loyalty
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No lidge should just do his job, which is to pitch when he’s asked to. He’s amazingly inept at his job, but he’s doing it.
Cholly simply is not doing his job.
by JasonB on Sep 23, 2009 11:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. But I also think that if Lidge had the best interests of his team at heart, he would tell his coach that he knows he is a detriment to the team and does not think he should not be put in a position to hurt them anymore. It might mean more to Charlie coming from Lidge. I dunno.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here’s the thing
Anyone who currently thinks he ISNT a dteriment to the team should be smacked and checked for brain death
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that’s what it came to, I’d be even more dissapointed than I am now.
by JasonB on Sep 23, 2009 11:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Dumber move
Sticking with Brad LIdge
Or sticking with Kevin Kolb?
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lidge, and it’s not even close. I don’t even think sticking with Kolb is dumb.
by PhillyFriar on Sep 23, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kolb at least has upside, lidge doesn't until he gets fixed
be it mechanical or physical
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I don’t agree that Kolb has upside
i was just curious :)
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well first of all professional sports isn’t like a ‘normal’ job
and secondly – a boss who continues to allow someone to KEEP doing a job while they fail at whatever job that is is an incompetent employer.
In the past week I’ve seen Pete Carrol make the asinine decision NOT to give mitch mustain a chance and I thought that would be the dumbest thing i saw all week
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha Barkann’s first word…..WOW
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 23, 2009 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m almost glad that i’ve had the flu the past couple days and am behind on running pitching numbers for cardinals and yankees pitchers
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is a disgrace to our team and Cole who pitched more then well enough to win…this needs to stop or this post season run and chance at a repeat is going to fade faster then the Mets did in June
by Dlance04 on Sep 23, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No offense to cole hamels but i couldn’t give a crap if he gets a win or not – it’s irrelevant if HE gets the win – he pitched fine against a mediocre team – whether or not h gets the win is a minor problem
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 23, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I don’t want to sound like a reporter fillled with cliches, but the other guys on the team are getting boned. They deserved to win the game. One pitcher blew it again. Two others helped by giving up runs in 7th and 8th tho.
by Pedro45 on Sep 23, 2009 11:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
ricky bo is on point…not even blinking
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Sep 23, 2009 11:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Lidge converts only a few of the 11 saves he has blown this year, we have already clinched and would not be complaining about Lidge blowing saves right now.
by FuquaManuel on Sep 23, 2009 11:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In Orlando FLA. No marlin broadcast here. Listened to game on phone. Anyone able to post Charlies post game comments. Besides that Lidge can’t get three outs ever??
by Pedro45 on Sep 23, 2009 11:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
i live in ocoee, i have dish and get both fsfl and sun
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 23, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No dish here. Actually at Disney. No magic happening here after that mess. ESPN news was on regular ESPN. Wonder if game was blacked out.
by Pedro45 on Sep 23, 2009 11:22 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
In some ways I was hoping Lidge would blow it again…maybe it will finally convince Manual that he needs to write Lidge off for this year and establish a different closer. Better now than in the playoffs. It’s almost unbelievable that any pitcher, regardless of prior season performance, would still be getting the call after blowing 10 saves, 0-7, 7.24 ERA. Just think of the effect it must be having on team morale. Manual has some tough post-season pitching decisions to make, but jettisoning Lidge isn’t one of them.
by lunarc on Sep 23, 2009 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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