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Milwaukee's Best: Phillies at Brewers Game Thread, September 25, 2009

Philadelphia Phillies at Milwaukee Brewers, Sep 25, 2009 8:05 PM EDT


The Phillies try to take game two of their four game series against the Brewers in Milwaukee behind Cliff Lee, who's looking for his 8th victory since joining the Phillies.  Manny Parra goes for the Brewers.

 

Discuss the game below.

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Philadelphia Phillies
@ Milwaukee Brewers

Friday, Sep 25, 2009, 8:05 PM EDT
Miller Park

Cliff Lee vs Manny Parra

Mostly cloudy,rain. Winds blowing in from center field at 5-15 m.p.h. Game time temperature around 65.

 

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W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Cliff Lee 7-2 10 10 3 1 0 0 68.0 64 24 20 4 9 62 2.65 1.07



W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2009 - Manny Parra 10-10 25 25 0 0 0 0 130.1 169 101 93 19 71 103 6.42 1.84



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Beast is a horrible beverage.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah but the Swedish bikini team likes it.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No wait, that’s Old Milwaukee.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Upon graduation from college, Beast, Natty Light, and IC Light were eliminated completely from my pallet.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of those three, Natty Light has the worst review on beeradvocate. It’s a real achievement to get an F.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That does take talent.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I retired Olympia, Red Dog, Budweiser, and Beast.

Newcastle, Guinness, Yuengling B &T, and any porter are about all that are deemed worhty now.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yuengling is pretty much my beer of choice – will drink Corona when desperate.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

mmmm swedish bikin team.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a nice town, but you are damn right about that. I’d rather drink piss…hell, when you drink Beast, you start wondering if that is what piss tastes like.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No sir, you get that when drinking Pittsburgh’s finest = Iron City Light

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rollins swung at pitch #1 and was thwarted by the foul lines.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sorry

Batting in front of Utley/Howard makes your runs scored number somewhat irrelevant. Quit harping on it fellas. Think of how many runs J-Roll would score if he got on base at a league average clip.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lovely cue shot by J-Roll.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Manny Parra: The latest 6+ ERA pitcher to completely stifle the Phillies’ offense?

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 8:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, that was a lovely inning.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rollins again showed why he shouldn’t be in shouting distance of leadoff.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This could be an unusually non-fun evening of baseball.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Booo. Bad start. Werth played that well. Stupid fast base runner.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

seriously….Corey Hart is bunting with a guy at 2nd and no outs, with Braun and Fielder following him? That’s insulting.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pedro Martinez scratched tomorrow. KK pitching instead.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Braves up 2-0 after 4 in DC.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fielder extends his RBI lead over the Big Piece. 1-0.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mets 3, Marlins 0 (Bottom 4)
Pirates 3, Dodgers 1 (Top 4)
Cardinals 0, Rockies 0 (Mid 1)

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lee getting hit

covers eyes

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 25, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uh-oh

is it a bad cliff lee night? I sure hope not, because the Braves are getting gifted from the Nats.

Seriously, whered you other guys go?

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It’s gonna be a short one from Lee tonight methinks.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

And from me. In fact I think I’m done.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

T-Mac says "if it's fair it's gone"

and it was fair by about 100’.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Parra’s career line against the Phils:

6.1IP 16H 12R 12ER 1HR 8BB 7K 17.05 ERA 3.79 WHIP

It would be embarrassing to get shut down by him.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uh ohhhh

looks like ill be putting in Defiance or Hellboy 2 in a couple of mins

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh geez Lee. One of THOSE nights.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, there’s no better inning to fall behind by 4. So there’s that.

by Ritty77 on Sep 25, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think it’s going to be an early bedtime tonight.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey maybe this is Paul Hoover’s fault.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

cant blame the catcher for leave a softball up in the strike zone

by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

unless it’s bako.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously Cliff….first you go all “toro toro” style on a ball back through the middle you could’ve easily snared, then you don’t throw to second on a gimme force out. Wimp.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

L.A. on the Nationals

“They can swing the bat. Outside of that, they have no baseball skills. It’s pathetic. They shouldn’t even be out on the field.”

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s kinda hypocritical considering he isn’t really complaining about our record being padded at their expense.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not really an L.A. guy, but it isn’t hypocritical so long as everyone else in our division gets to play them 18x too.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s hypocritical for him to be whining about them losing to the Braves when we got to beat up on them too.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That implication was in the background, but he didn’t really connect the thoughts explicitly. He was just being ornery.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zilliken Alsace 2003 Riesling is an awesome wine. I whole-heartedly endorse.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So….have the Phillies already mailed it in tonight?

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well...

When you’re facing an immortal like Manny Parra, it’s tough not to go up there almost pre-beaten.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, know the feeling…..Tomo Ohka, Tim Redding, anyone else I am missing….oh yeah, Anibal Sanchez.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ohka?

I don’t think Sanchez fits. That guy is actually pretty talented.

But I definitely would have said Yusmeiro Petit.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, forgot about Petit. That was an infuriating game in against the D’Bags.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Scott Richmond. Rich Hill.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mark Redman…..that guy owned us. And he was supersucky.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who is this manny parra guy, and why don’t we have a hit against him?

seriously…..at start of game he had whip of 1.84 and we don’t have a baserunner? Finish this crap off, Philzos.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Victorino accepts the freebie.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rollins was determined to earn his place on the base paths.

Man….their fielding is the suckiest suck that ever sucked…..well……at least since the Nats.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Howard with the two run strike, overtakes Fielder in RBIs… IF it’s ruled a hit.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Werth is just helpless right now.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He’s incredibly streaky for a non-streaky player.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HI!

My name is Jayson Werth. I swing at poop sandwiches.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BUT...

I watch cookies!

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 pitch strikeout?

What’s his deal lately?

by RaptorLC on Sep 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and y’all harrass me for not being as enamored as the rest wrt his performance this year. I stick to the label of “poor man’s Adam Dunn” since he is whiff/walk/homer, without the # of homers that Dunn supplies.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You say that like it’s a bad thing.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right back in this game.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 9:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Parra still has the no hitter going.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 9:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hate ‘backing into’ the playoffs. Come strong, or don’t come at all.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 9:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They give Howard the hit and thus 2 RBI

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 9:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s some fishy scoring.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

acanthocybium solanderi?

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might as well had Lee swing away there.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pirates hanging tough against the Dodgers. 3-1, Bottom 7.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Game over. Can’t win giving up TWO three run bombs.

by WanderingMoses on Sep 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Harris OUT!

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Prince is a beast.

by taco pal on Sep 25, 2009 9:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That’s that. Lee was bad tonight.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Italian sausage won.

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Evidently Charlie is going to make Cliff mop up his own vomit.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 9:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

After tonight, we're 6 games up with 9 to go...

… and hoping there is not another Phold of ’64 in the works.

Possible, however unlikely. No matter how unlikely, it is technically possible and not as far-fetched an idea as one might think. Consider the schedules:

Phillies – 2 more against the Brewers, 4 against the Astros (whom we can’t beat), 3 against the Marlins (always trouble).

Braves – 6 more against the Nationals, 3 against the Marlins.

Given our on-and-off pitching of late – especially in the bullpen – and given how well the Braves are playing right now (12-2 in their last 14), it is a definite possibility.

Just sayin’. I know tonight is “just one game,” but we had better take care of business because we’re not going to get any help.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Sep 25, 2009 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As of the conclusion of NL East games tonight, the Phightin have a six game lead.

The magic number holds at 4 for the Braves and 2 for the Marlins,
with 9 games to play for Phils and Braves and 8 for Florida.
For the Braves to win they must go 9-0, while we go 2-7.
and for Florida,well, they must go 8-0 and we must lose all 9.
So you see, my friend, if we only win 3 games they rest of the season, one per series is definitely doable, and since they play a series against each other, one of them will not go unbeaten (hoping its both of them) the rest of the season.
Quod erat demonstrandum ( Q.E.D.), that basically means we are in.
How far we go from there is anyone’s guess.

by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 26, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but seriously

who the heck is Paul Hoover?…

by vanrambler on Sep 25, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Sep 25, 2009 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tongue in cheek, of course.

Just frustrated over here, as we all are.

Do you see what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps?

by mikefive on Sep 25, 2009 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lidge only gave up one run this outing. that’s (sadly) better than average in one of his outings.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It also helps isolate the problem(s)....

Lidge can’t close games and sucks balls in the 9th.

The Phillies bullpen as a whole can’t close game and sucks balls in the 9th.

Lidge still suck in the 7th.

At least we’ve isolated one problem. Now to miracle up someone who doesn’t give up 1-3 runs in the 9th each game…

by RaptorLC on Sep 25, 2009 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

condrey was a victim of FI and errors last night. both his runs were unearned.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jesus

if I feel this close to vomiting in the 7th inning of a game that’s already over, I can’t imagine how sick I’ll be when the playoffs start

by vanrambler on Sep 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This SHOULD be the nail in Lidge’s coffin. Failure to pitch a clean frame in garbage time should be a clear indicator to Cholly that he can’t be trusted in any situation. Shut him down.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Murphy's Law prediction...

Brewers win tonight by a score of 8-7. Philly’s late rally falls short, and Lidge’s mop up failure ends up still being the deciding run, because really… who would have it any other way?

by RaptorLC on Sep 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

5 runs in 2 innings is a lot to ask of these oft-impotent lineup.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn’t be the first time something like that has happened to us.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mets beat the fish….

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's one consolation...

Sort of at least.

Florida’s quickly becoming irrelevant this season through no effort by our part. Of course with Atlanta still playing strong (and having an utter joke of a schedule if the Marlins should roll over for them), it might end up having Florida play us with our season on the line while they try to do to us what they did to the Mets for the last two years. I can’t say I like that idea…

by RaptorLC on Sep 25, 2009 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if only we could win 4 more games….

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

beat the nats 4-1

we get no love from the nats this year.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phils aren’t going to get any help from the braves opponents. They could go 10-0;

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you want a collapse to happen or something?

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hells not, but it’s possible. Phils are plaing like butt lately.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They are 7-3 in their last 10. They would have won he Marlins’ series if not for Lidge. They won the first game of this series. Sorry, I don’t see it.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 25, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone named Jason Bourgeois just got a hit.

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 25, 2009 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he’s middle class…you know.

by Bilzo on Sep 25, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Escalona meltdown in 3…..2……

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 25, 2009 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dobbs with a hit. Would be good to see him get going.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 10:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Everybody pops up.

by dajafi on Sep 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm vomiting,

then turning in for the night.

where are the late inning rallies of yestermonth?

goodnight all

by Wet Luzinski on Sep 25, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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