Phils lose, Lidge blows save, nothing to see here, move along...

by jonk on Sep 5, 2009 10:26 PM EDT

Phils can't score against starter, Phils take the lead against reliever, Phils lose the because of their closer.

Anything else happen I didn't mention?

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Oh, Cairo had 2 hits!

For Who? My teammates.

For What? To Win.

How Much? Where do I sign?

by jonk on Sep 5, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions

My thoughts on this game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30YW3wgRvyI

by FuquaManuel on Sep 5, 2009 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs

My thoughts

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQggo3AfP30

Crashburn Alley

by Crashburn Alley on Sep 5, 2009 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions

Broad Street Hockey -
Makin' it look mean since 1967.

by Geoff Detweiler on Sep 5, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions

BTW, I freaking HATE Kaz Matsui. Between the NLDS in 2007 and all his other hijinx against the Phils, I won’t cry at his retirement party.

by doubleh on Sep 5, 2009 10:34 PM EDT reply actions

Big Lead? What Big Lead?

Remember the last time the Phils entered September with a lead this big – they ended up winning by only THREE games, and guess who was falling apart as their closer? Mitchy-poo…

It’s never about how big a lead you have at this point in the season – it’s how you are playing. Right now: great starting pitching, but no hitting, and no closer.

If the front office isn’t worried, they’re idiots.

by SJDinAudubon on Sep 5, 2009 11:00 PM EDT reply actions

Brad Lidge won Philly a world series but it’s time to make a change. His save percentage is 28/38, or about 3 of 4. This means he blows 1 of 4 and in 1 run saves his mark is even worse. In a playoff series, lidge is statiscally likely to blow 1 save and maybe two. This is is unacceptable. And then add that he can’t pitch from the stretch or hold runners and that he has an era over 7 and I don’t see how he can be a postseason closer.

by phillynyc on Sep 5, 2009 11:13 PM EDT via mobile reply actions

I am back

it is time. He just believes he is a loser this year and he is a loser. Time to move on.

btw, Myers looked pretty good out there inspite of his dumb walk.

bench Lidge……………..

by BenchLidge on Sep 6, 2009 12:01 AM EDT reply actions

I have to criticize Cholly now. I don’t blame Lidge anymore. I blame CHolly for stubbornly trotting him out time and time again with the same results.

Seriously, put the guy out of his misery. Put him on the DL and leave him off the postseason roster. Whether it’s his knee, or his mechanics, or his head… I don’t know… but he’s worthless now. He is of absolutely no use to this team. He’s not going to “turn it around” or “figure it out”. Shut him down for the year and see what happens with him in spring training.

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by JasonB on Sep 6, 2009 1:07 AM EDT reply actions

Stop using Lidge on Saturday

Here’s an idea – use another reliever next Saturday if you need a closer in a save situation. Lidge has done half decently the other days of the week but those Saturdays are murder. I don’t think it comes from overwork (with the possible exception of that Tuesday night loss vs. the Pirates eleven days ago) but there’s a similar result on Saturdays, especially on the road, that doesn’t seem to happen on other days Lidge pitches. The numbers?
Five of Lidge’s ten blown saves and four of his seven losses came on Saturdays. The first one was at home back in April, his first blown save as a Phillie. The other four have been on the road, leading to four of this year’s six bitter walk-off losses (Lidge also had a walk-off loss at LA on a Friday night). The rest of the days of the week Lidge has been much better: one blown save on a Sunday (game won in extra innings); two blown saves and a loss on a Tuesday (one game won in extra innings) and two blown saves on Fridays (one game won in extra innings). You can add in Madson blowing a Saturday save vs. the Orioles for good measure. The Phillies overall are only 10-11 on Saturdays.
This might just be coincidence but if you’re like me there is likely a lot more attention focused on baseball games on the weekends. Who knows what goes through a reliever’s thoughts as he prepares for each day’s games, but whatever is going on with Lidge, Saturday is not his day.

by phillyinportland on Sep 6, 2009 4:44 AM EDT reply actions

Sorry, this is ridiculous. I think it is kinda telling that nobody has a clue what is wrong with him when people are throwing around theories like this.

by FuquaManuel on Sep 6, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions

Yeah, and I can’t keep worrying about what the problem is. Clearly there is a problem and that loss sucked worse than most.

by Ritty77 on Sep 6, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions

It may be ridiculous but possibly there’s something going on psychologically with Lidge that affects him more on those days when he’s out there with a one-run lead on the road. Like I said, it could just be a coincidence that Saturday has been the day for his most prominent failures, but if not then it would be better to work around that problem instead of continuing to put Lidge into a situation where he has no confidence. We are looking at what I think is a unique situation here, with a team that is already 6 1/2 games ahead but could be another 5 games or more ahead if the team was converting save opportunities like the Dodgers were with Jonathan Broxton as an example.

by phillyinportland on Sep 6, 2009 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Maybe he is a Seventh Day Adventist

by fan since late 40's on Sep 6, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions

Hmm

We know Cholly, and he’s probably going to stick with Lidge for at least a few more games. That’s just how he is. It’s like telling Andy Reid not to pass.

But question: how small does the lead in the division get before Cholly makes a change? Like 3 games? If it gets that low (God forbid) and Lidge blows a few more games during the descent, would even Cholly change at that point?

by ajay on Sep 6, 2009 10:18 AM EDT reply actions