Lobbying for Wins: Phillies at Nationals Game Thread, September 8, 2009
by WholeCamels on Sep 8, 2009 7:00 PM EDT
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Pedro Martinez, owner of the last Phillies' victory, goes tonight against Nationals' starter John Lannan in Washington as the Phillies try to stop the skid and right the ship.
Discuss the game below.
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And Brad Lidge is still your closer
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 7:04 PM EDT reply actions
oh noes
Kendrick may start this weekend
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
This is the new look Kendrick (the one who apparently can throw a changeup), so I vote we at least give him another shot before we write him off entirely.
by philiafan14364 on Sep 8, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Wish I could chat more tonight, but I got this pesky little thing called Back to School Night – gotta schmooze with parents. But I do have the game on the TV in my classroom.
Give them all detention for talking too much – tell them to think about what they’ve done quietly and lay the very large ruler down on your desk to emphasize your point
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad I don’t have any yardsticks left. The nuns who taught me took them all.
by WanderingMoses on Sep 8, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Or you assigned the game to your kids as a homework assignment and thus watching with you will help them be part of their kids education
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Last year, every student got extra credit for the Phils winning the World Series.
by WanderingMoses on Sep 8, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions
or 400 OBP
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by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions
No leadoff homerun from Pedro would be good.
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
He likes to make the games more exciting – make the other team think they have a chance – it’s a very gentlemanly and sporting thing of him to do
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. I have thought on it and I have decided that Pedro Feliz has cracked my top 10 list of least favorite ballplayers ever.
But DEFENSE
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by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions
consider the other options we’ve had there since Rolen..
David Bell, Wes Helms…
(polanco would’ve been nice tho)
That doesn’t make Feliz better it just illustrates the failures of the philies since Rolen left
The Polanco think is to me one of wades biggest blunders
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
just sayin’….the grass ain’t always greener on the other side of the fence.
I believe Pedro is (or ‘was’) having his best OPS career year.
Which is sad in and of itself if this is his best
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Dear God Almighty.
Between our 4-game losing streak, the godawful Nationals broadcast crew and this mediocre friggin pitcher shutting us down through 4 innings, I think I may be at a breaking point.
Stringing together a couple hits here
Would feel very good. Any runs would be good but the Phils are about due for a big one.
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
why does it seem like all these pitchers seem like
the reincarnation of Cy Young when we face them
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 8, 2009 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Raul
Needs to play Nats at all times.
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
Remember this inning the next time we can’t buy a hit or run :)
by JohnIrvinKennedy on Sep 8, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions
Really, sending 37 year old Pedro out at 105 pitches?
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Who cares?
Hes like a rental car, you ride it like a horse until it drops out from under you.
by philiafan14364 on Sep 8, 2009 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Except that with Happ hurt and moyer questionable you ight NEED him for the playoffs so over extending him in a rather meaningless way could hurt in the long run
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think Happ will be ok by the time the playoffs role around…
by philiafan14364 on Sep 8, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks doc. If you aren’t one, I think you should be.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Jonk my data offer to dajafi goes to you too if you’re interested in seeing anything fomr a pitchFX database for the season to date (or 2008 season i’m building now)
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions
When was the last time the Phils hit a homer w/ a runner(s) on base?
by JohnIrvinKennedy on Sep 8, 2009 8:58 PM EDT reply actions
Well, the giving is usually done by the bullpen, so this one feels even more weird.
by philiafan14364 on Sep 8, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok, 500 bucks to whomever called in June that Brett Myers would be in the game in relief of Pedro Martinez!
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
can you say Insurance runs, little boy????
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 8, 2009 9:12 PM EDT reply actions
They can say it
Doesn’t mean they’ll get ’em
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
A ray of hope
Our fantastic closer gets to face the 7-9 hitters in the bottom of the ninth (assuming all goes well in the 8th). Think he can handle it.?
5 runs
Most weve scored in a game since Aug 24th
by philiafan14364 on Sep 8, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Was about to guess Glanville, got Ducey though.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Been wanting to ask those watching – how has myers looked the past few days – him getting back into shape would obviously be real helpful if (when?) Charlie finally gives up on Lidge (and his 3 years left on his contract?)
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Brett has looked pretty good so far since returning.
Small mistakes but has gotten by with them or pitched out of them.
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 8, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions
how many effin pitching changes this effin guy gonna make
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 8, 2009 9:36 PM EDT reply actions
Ah – the expanded roster and the teams that suck
Don't frack with me or you'll get a punch in the kidneys...you've been warned
by jemagee on Sep 8, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
As a side note, the Mets are trying to mount a comeback… go mets!
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Againts former Phillie (and bum) Brian Sanchez. Shouldnt be too hard…
by philiafan14364 on Sep 8, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
for the love of me, i cannot remember that guy throwing one pitch in a Phillie uni. And after a quick glance at his stats, I’m kind of happy I can’t…
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
hey for Stairs to Lidge proof this would be great
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 8, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
umm, how about we work on him just getting a hit
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
last hit for stairs
july 11
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
get ready for the roller coaster boys… can i just go smash my crotch with a hammer and get it over with
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
shit… Beltran just missed a GS by about 5 feet
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
didnt know he was back
When did that happen?
"It was almost like if Harry didn't call it, it wasn't real." - Jayson Stark
christ… isn’t that the second time tonight for pedro?
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
Careful what you wish for
They could hit a HR to end it…
by philiafan14364 on Sep 8, 2009 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions
but, but, he won us a championship!
thats why cholly continues to support him
by CoburnsCuddleBuddy on Sep 8, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
FUCK!!!! I’m sure he’ll blame the god damn blisters after the game… either that or, “Well I feel great… so ya know… just keep at it…”
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
I honestly feel really bad for Lidge. Top of the mountain, bottom of the heap.
For Who? My teammates.
For What? To Win.
How Much? Where do I sign?
Oh great. Madson will now precede to lose us the game.
by besam32 on Sep 8, 2009 9:52 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
blister can be reason for DL so use it
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 8, 2009 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
yeah, it's a lot less humiliating than
say, “confidence issues”…
by Screen Name 20 on Sep 8, 2009 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
great… zimmerman is hitting like .475 against madson lifetime
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
doesnt anyone in dugout pay attention to that stuff
by SmilingJPhilsPhan on Sep 8, 2009 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
It’s embarassing watching him out there. Literally embarassing watching him out there knowing he has nothing. Again I blame it all ok cholly at this point. It’s inexcusable to continue to allow this to continue. Inexcusable.
by JasonB on Sep 8, 2009 9:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
against Dunn?
extra frames unlikely. Either a whiff or a GS.
What really sucks is that if Madson does get the save….Lidge gets a Hold!
Show a shot of the “In Lidge We Trust” sign holders
by JohnIrvinKennedy on Sep 8, 2009 9:58 PM EDT reply actions
Thank you Jesus… The headline tomorrow better be “Lidge to DL”
"I tried to run him over but Eli had his big boy pads on and he kind of stopped me from getting in the end zone. The next time I’ll try to jump over his head.’’ - Asante Samuel
It should be, but why would we ever expect that it was?
by JasonB on Sep 8, 2009 10:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I dont think it should be the end of Lidge, but he needs to go on the 15 DL and try and work on his stuff from the stretch (I think that is where he is having trouble). He can come back and get a few more chances and hopefully he will succeed, otherwise he can do 4-5 run “saves”. In the meantime, Park, Walker, Myers, Madson — ie whoever is fresh can finish out the games, also depending on match ups etc.
I see no other logical alternative!
To clarify, he can come back after being on the 15 DL and get one more chance. If he blows that it really should be done for the year. If he does well, then you can give him a few more chances and just see what happens. But no more of the “lets let him come around” stuff anymore, it is too late in the season and the NL East lead is not big enough for that kind of stuff.
It should be the end of him for this year
Lidge should be shut down for the year. No way should he be anywhere near the postseason roster. Shut him down and see how he looks next spring. 15 days on the dl didn’t help him last time and it won’t this time.
by JasonB on Sep 8, 2009 10:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
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