Phillies sign RHP Joe Blanton to 3 year, $24 million extension
This is a good deal for a lot of reasons. One, as discussed ad nauseum in the previous Joe Blanton thread, our man Cookies has been very durable and, while he'll never be confused with a Cy Young candidate, he's definitely a well above-average starting pitcher. Two, he's past the early/mid-20s "injury nexus" and, at 29 on Opening Day, this deal will only take him through his age 31 season. Third, solid as his 2009 season appeared, his peripherals portend even better things going forward (increased K/9, bad luck on HR/FB).
A tip of the cap to Ruben & Co. for getting this one done quickly and apparently rather painlessly.
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I deleted my post on this, mostly because WC had a picture in his.
I did have two thoughts, which I’ll redo here:
1) This is the same deal the team gave suckmeister Adam Eaton three years ago, when $24m was worth more than it is now; and
2) This deal looks real good IMO compared to the 2/$15m the Nats gave Marquis and the 2/$16m LA of A gave Joel Piniero
One more great thing: Stark reports that the breakdown is $7m for this year, $8.5m for ’11 and ’12. So we probably just got back a bit of change for a late signing or in-season addition compared to what they might have budgeted.
As a value proposition, gotta love this deal.
Ohhhhh shoot! Competing front page stories! (I’d started one too; glad I checked before I finished it!).
Credit where it’s due to Amaro: I’ve said before that I think the negotiating side is his strong suit (as evidenced by the deals he struck with Hamels, Werth, Howard, and Dobbs last offseason), and he’s proven that once again. I know Blanton wasn’t a free agent per se, but I have to agree with dajafi that this deal looks pretty good in comparison to what’s being handed out on the market.
Well done, Ruben.
Agree w/r/t Amaro’s strengths, though I think perennial playoff contenders do have a slight negotiation edge in that they can get guys at the core or on the margins of the roster probably for less because there’s more FA interest in playing here. All by way of saying that it’s much tougher to be a GM in a position like Ed Wade.
Credit too to Blanton, who had experience playing in baseball’s economic netherworld in Oakland. He didn’t get too too crazy like Chan Ho Park and look a good situation in the mouth.
by Wet Luzinski on Jan 21, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Very nice deal
It keeps the peasants from revolting against Duke Amaro, since it’s less than Lee’s contract, and it locks up a very consistent pitcher for a good period of time at a fair price. Back loading it also helps from a financial perspective, since money in the future is worth less than money now.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
You should see the large amount of punctuation in the comments section over on espn.com…..ug that’s why I come here… a taste of the other side: Why is he still here and Lee is gone??
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jan 21, 2010 3:19 PM EST reply actions
I wonder if folks would feel different if the deal came out to $9M a year
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jan 21, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not sure if you’re asking that question or paraphrasing the concerns at ESPN.com (and yeah, the low quality of posts over there was what drove me to this side of the world, specifically TGP’s antecedent site Philliesphans.com, way back in 2002[!]).
But one way to think of it (as someone posted on BackSheGoes.com, where some of us also spend too much time) is this: Blanton for $8.5 million in 2011-12, or Lee for $20 million over those same years and more. Remember also that if Halladay, no Lee, and that Clifton is older than Cupcakes.
Lee’s a better pitcher, but he isn’t twice as good, and he’d cost more than twice as much. (Yeah, I know that this is a question of marginal value, so the math is somewhat misleading, but still.)
i don’t want this to be re-hashed, but the Lee and Halladay deals were seperate. Your salary vs. value summary is dead on though.
Great deal for the phils and for cupcakes. good job Rube.
Chase Utley is so good that on one pitch he stole second, third and the shortstop's hat.
Yup I agree with both. My second point was actually a question about the feelings here, sure the wisdom that Lee would be $20M a year after next season would prevail. But I’m curious about reactions if Blanton was getting paid the same as Lee would have next year, not less. I understand Lee’s contract was low due to when he signed etc. etc. Just curious.
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jan 21, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Anyway I was more shocked Mikey Miss on 97.5 was getting overly pissy, hate to see him get 610ish so fast now that he is number one.
by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jan 21, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
Great deal for the money and years, Blanton is a good fit for the 3-4 role for the next several years.
He’s a great fit for the 3-4 – I feel he could be a 2 for a lot of teams. He tends to fly under the radar because he’s a “soft” looking player who doesn’t have any really spectacular pitches, he’s just dang solid.
"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"
The jump in Blanton’s K rate since the Phils got him is pretty dramatic—all the way to 7.5 per 9 last year. Probably some/most of that is going from the harder league to the easier, but it also might be that Dubee/Moyer/whoever deserve some credit for seeing something in him that his previous coach/es missed.
RAJ nails another one
the guy can get a deal done, that’s for sure. Good to have some cost certainty with a quality pitcher past 2010 as well. The genius of getting Blanton for $7 million this year can’t be understated. That frees up a good deal of money to go after bullpen help or for a midseason trade.
Also consider that the rotation will consist of Halladay, Hamels, Blanton, and Happ for at least 2010 and 2011. Good stuff.
Awesome!
Sil Campusano I don’t even remember that name. I had to look it up to make sure the test was right. I got 159 of 198, not bad.
Seems to me like fan reaction has been pretty positive. The minority who are hung up on comparisons between Blanton and Lee have a shocking inability to (a) do simple arithmetic and (b) understand the need to plan for anything beyond the immediate future.
a shocking inability to (a) do simple arithmetic and (b) understand the need to plan for anything beyond the immediate future.
apt description of Howard Eskin’s prime demographic.
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by Wet Luzinski on Jan 21, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
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by WholeCamels on Jan 21, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why?
Excuse me?? Who were we bidding against? This is a Dalembert deal if I ever saw one. Doesn’t anybody remember all of two months ago, when the Phils couldn’t GIVE this guy away?? Remember? No trade takers? Way overpaid, no reason not to find out if there were any other bidders – NEXT YEAR! I just hope he doesn’t get over 280 by Spring Training…
We are bidding against every other team in MLB who want a durable pitcher in his prime, with postseason experience, for less than or equal to market value.
by Wet Luzinski on Jan 21, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Look at the contracts pitchers are getting around the league, even this offseason. You mean to tell me that a solid middle rotation guy going into free agency @ 30 years old isn’t going to get at a good contract? If you look at actual value it’s a bargain.
Per Fangraphs, he was “worth” $12 million last year. Take that for what it’s worth.
Victorino's agreed as well.
Ruben’s been getting his work in this week.
Ya'll are great fans!
It is so refreshing to read good positive comments about my favorite team. It is nice not to read a bunch of junk about how we could have signed Lee for the same amount.
Ya’ll are the men!
to be fair, some of us are not men.
We are DEVO.
by Wet Luzinski on Jan 22, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
"Thus twate Zolothustra."
That was inspired. Awesome. You are truly a superman, WC.
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Jan 23, 2010 9:49 AM EST reply actions

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