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Phillies sign RHP Joe Blanton to 3 year, $24 million extension


Thus twate Zolothustra.

This is a good deal for a lot of reasons.  One, as discussed ad nauseum in the previous Joe Blanton thread, our man Cookies has been very durable and, while he'll never be confused with a Cy Young candidate, he's definitely a well above-average starting pitcher.  Two, he's past the early/mid-20s "injury nexus" and, at 29 on Opening Day, this deal will only take him through his age 31 season.  Third, solid as his 2009 season appeared, his peripherals portend even better things going forward (increased K/9, bad luck on HR/FB).

A tip of the cap to Ruben & Co. for getting this one done quickly and apparently rather painlessly.

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Really hard to deny the awesomeness of this deal, especially considering there are various reasons to believe his K-increase/BB-decrease last year was no fluke. Cupcakes is trending upward.

by jfd5003 on Jan 21, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

I deleted my post on this, mostly because WC had a picture in his.

I did have two thoughts, which I’ll redo here:

1) This is the same deal the team gave suckmeister Adam Eaton three years ago, when $24m was worth more than it is now; and

2) This deal looks real good IMO compared to the 2/$15m the Nats gave Marquis and the 2/$16m LA of A gave Joel Piniero

One more great thing: Stark reports that the breakdown is $7m for this year, $8.5m for ’11 and ’12. So we probably just got back a bit of change for a late signing or in-season addition compared to what they might have budgeted.

As a value proposition, gotta love this deal.

by dajafi on Jan 21, 2010 3:09 PM EST reply actions  

Eaton had a track record of getting injured and was not very consistent with the Padres. Blanton has been a workhorse since getting here.

3/24 is basically the same as 2/16. It averages out to a mil a year.

by EREX21 on Jan 21, 2010 4:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Ohhhhh shoot! Competing front page stories! (I’d started one too; glad I checked before I finished it!).

Credit where it’s due to Amaro: I’ve said before that I think the negotiating side is his strong suit (as evidenced by the deals he struck with Hamels, Werth, Howard, and Dobbs last offseason), and he’s proven that once again. I know Blanton wasn’t a free agent per se, but I have to agree with dajafi that this deal looks pretty good in comparison to what’s being handed out on the market.

Well done, Ruben.

by PhillyFriar on Jan 21, 2010 3:11 PM EST reply actions  

Actually, if you just take the two FA years—his age 30 and 31 seasons—for 2011 and 2012, it looks even better by comparison to Marquis and Piniero. 2 years/$17m (which is probably something like $16.5m now, depending on how inflation goes)

by dajafi on Jan 21, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree w/r/t Amaro’s strengths, though I think perennial playoff contenders do have a slight negotiation edge in that they can get guys at the core or on the margins of the roster probably for less because there’s more FA interest in playing here. All by way of saying that it’s much tougher to be a GM in a position like Ed Wade.

Credit too to Blanton, who had experience playing in baseball’s economic netherworld in Oakland. He didn’t get too too crazy like Chan Ho Park and look a good situation in the mouth.

by Wet Luzinski on Jan 21, 2010 9:50 PM EST up reply actions  

very good deal

eff you we winning anyway
A.I. IS BACKKKKKKK

by eagleswin on Jan 21, 2010 3:12 PM EST reply actions  

Very nice deal

It keeps the peasants from revolting against Duke Amaro, since it’s less than Lee’s contract, and it locks up a very consistent pitcher for a good period of time at a fair price. Back loading it also helps from a financial perspective, since money in the future is worth less than money now.

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Jan 21, 2010 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

You should see the large amount of punctuation in the comments section over on espn.com…..ug that’s why I come here… a taste of the other side: Why is he still here and Lee is gone??

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jan 21, 2010 3:19 PM EST reply actions  

I wonder if folks would feel different if the deal came out to $9M a year

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jan 21, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Not sure if you’re asking that question or paraphrasing the concerns at ESPN.com (and yeah, the low quality of posts over there was what drove me to this side of the world, specifically TGP’s antecedent site Philliesphans.com, way back in 2002[!]).

But one way to think of it (as someone posted on BackSheGoes.com, where some of us also spend too much time) is this: Blanton for $8.5 million in 2011-12, or Lee for $20 million over those same years and more. Remember also that if Halladay, no Lee, and that Clifton is older than Cupcakes.

Lee’s a better pitcher, but he isn’t twice as good, and he’d cost more than twice as much. (Yeah, I know that this is a question of marginal value, so the math is somewhat misleading, but still.)

by dajafi on Jan 21, 2010 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

i don’t want this to be re-hashed, but the Lee and Halladay deals were seperate. Your salary vs. value summary is dead on though.

Great deal for the phils and for cupcakes. good job Rube.

Chase Utley is so good that on one pitch he stole second, third and the shortstop's hat.

by ajr142 on Jan 21, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup I agree with both. My second point was actually a question about the feelings here, sure the wisdom that Lee would be $20M a year after next season would prevail. But I’m curious about reactions if Blanton was getting paid the same as Lee would have next year, not less. I understand Lee’s contract was low due to when he signed etc. etc. Just curious.

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jan 21, 2010 4:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyway I was more shocked Mikey Miss on 97.5 was getting overly pissy, hate to see him get 610ish so fast now that he is number one.

by Sept.28.Oct.27.Dec.28.2008 on Jan 21, 2010 4:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Great deal for the money and years, Blanton is a good fit for the 3-4 role for the next several years.

by Ant on Jan 21, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions  

He’s a great fit for the 3-4 – I feel he could be a 2 for a lot of teams. He tends to fly under the radar because he’s a “soft” looking player who doesn’t have any really spectacular pitches, he’s just dang solid.

"When you make your final stand
I'll be right there
I'll never leave
And all I ask of you is
Believe"

by The Dark on Jan 21, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

The jump in Blanton’s K rate since the Phils got him is pretty dramatic—all the way to 7.5 per 9 last year. Probably some/most of that is going from the harder league to the easier, but it also might be that Dubee/Moyer/whoever deserve some credit for seeing something in him that his previous coach/es missed.

by dajafi on Jan 21, 2010 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Can’t complain about this deal at all. He’s a rock as a middle of the rotation guy.

by wildcatlh on Jan 21, 2010 3:40 PM EST reply actions  

RAJ nails another one

the guy can get a deal done, that’s for sure. Good to have some cost certainty with a quality pitcher past 2010 as well. The genius of getting Blanton for $7 million this year can’t be understated. That frees up a good deal of money to go after bullpen help or for a midseason trade.

Also consider that the rotation will consist of Halladay, Hamels, Blanton, and Happ for at least 2010 and 2011. Good stuff.

by Governator on Jan 21, 2010 4:08 PM EST reply actions  

4/5’s of the starting rotation is now locked up for the next 2 years. This signing makes the Lee trade actually make sense.

by EREX21 on Jan 21, 2010 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

Great deal in my opinion, Blanton is a good number 3 type pitcher, maybe even a bad number 2 type pitcher. Regardless of that kind of classification you may want to put him at, at 8 million a year average, it will be difficult for him not to out perform his contract.

by Whack8888 on Jan 21, 2010 4:20 PM EST reply actions  

Anybody also notice this makes Blanton more trade ready if needed?

by Ant on Jan 21, 2010 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

Awesome!

Sil Campusano I don’t even remember that name. I had to look it up to make sure the test was right. I got 159 of 198, not bad.

by Cormican on Jan 21, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I remember he broke up Doug Drabek’s no hit bid with a ninth inning hit.

I finished with 174, but I was kicking myself at a few of the names I missed. Should have easily cracked 180.

by Aphilfan on Jan 21, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I missed Jim friggin Thome, and I met him once. How the hell did I do that?

by Cormican on Jan 21, 2010 9:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty shocking that El Sid started an opener for us (in a season where we weren’t even all that bad). Also surprising that neither Wolf nor Padilla ever did it.

by taco pal on Jan 23, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Seems to me like fan reaction has been pretty positive. The minority who are hung up on comparisons between Blanton and Lee have a shocking inability to (a) do simple arithmetic and (b) understand the need to plan for anything beyond the immediate future.

by taco pal on Jan 21, 2010 5:11 PM EST reply actions  

yea, i agree. i am very pleased with the deal. great signing (or re-signing).

by tat167 on Jan 21, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a feeling that there’s a section of the fanbase(who listens to a lot of sports radio) that will respond to every dime spent by the organization by saying "but you couldn’t have kept Cliff Lee for 9 mil?!

by JasonB on Jan 21, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

a shocking inability to (a) do simple arithmetic and (b) understand the need to plan for anything beyond the immediate future.

apt description of Howard Eskin’s prime demographic.

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by Wet Luzinski on Jan 21, 2010 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

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by WholeCamels on Jan 21, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Get Blantant on the cheap and for a couple more years at the least, can’t complain with this. He seems to be on an upward trend, solid middle of the rotation guy. I think we’re getting great value out of him.

Scar tissue is stronger than muscle tissue. Realize the strength, move on.

by JCB79 on Jan 21, 2010 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

Why?

Excuse me?? Who were we bidding against? This is a Dalembert deal if I ever saw one. Doesn’t anybody remember all of two months ago, when the Phils couldn’t GIVE this guy away?? Remember? No trade takers? Way overpaid, no reason not to find out if there were any other bidders – NEXT YEAR! I just hope he doesn’t get over 280 by Spring Training…

by SJDinAudubon on Jan 21, 2010 7:32 PM EST reply actions  

Just because teams weren’t willing to surrender prospects for him doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t have signed him for an average of $8 million per year.

by FuquaManuel on Jan 21, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions  

We are bidding against every other team in MLB who want a durable pitcher in his prime, with postseason experience, for less than or equal to market value.

by Wet Luzinski on Jan 21, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Look at the contracts pitchers are getting around the league, even this offseason. You mean to tell me that a solid middle rotation guy going into free agency @ 30 years old isn’t going to get at a good contract? If you look at actual value it’s a bargain.

Per Fangraphs, he was “worth” $12 million last year. Take that for what it’s worth.

by wildcatlh on Jan 21, 2010 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Ok, so there’s the worst comment of the week…

by taco pal on Jan 22, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Victorino's agreed as well.

Link

Ruben’s been getting his work in this week.

by Aphilfan on Jan 21, 2010 9:28 PM EST reply actions  

3 year, 22mm.

Scar tissue is stronger than muscle tissue. Realize the strength, move on.

by JCB79 on Jan 21, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Ya'll are great fans!

It is so refreshing to read good positive comments about my favorite team. It is nice not to read a bunch of junk about how we could have signed Lee for the same amount.

Ya’ll are the men!

by DeanH on Jan 21, 2010 10:24 PM EST reply actions  

to be fair, some of us are not men.

We are DEVO.

by Wet Luzinski on Jan 22, 2010 11:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I know

I hesitated w/ my comment but just had to do it, thinking of HK/Chase.

by DeanH on Jan 23, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions  

"Thus twate Zolothustra."

That was inspired. Awesome. You are truly a superman, WC.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Jan 23, 2010 9:49 AM EST reply actions  

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