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Some Phillies Links for You, October 12, 2010: Giant Fun with Tim the Enchanter, Exeunt Cox and Wagner

Phillies NLCS ticket prices soaring online
You don't want to know what I'll do...

Area auction company capitalizes on no-hitter memorabilia
MERCHANDISING!

After another agonizingly close win, S.F. to battle Philly for Series spot
Although I'm scared of Tim Lincecum, it was pretty nice to see the Braves eliminated from the postseason.

McCaffery: Years later, ex-Phillie Scotty Rolen there when needed
"Baseball Heaven" huh?

MLB Playoffs: Cody Ross sends San Francisco Giants into NLCS, Bobby Cox into retirement
Oh, except Cody Ross is so loathsome too! This is a tough one.

Wagner's illustrious career comes to end
Bye, Rat!

Paul Hagen: If they win it all, then you can call them the best Phillies team ever
Depends on how you measure it.

Phillies-Giants: 2010 National League Championship Series (best-of-seven series)
I'd worry more about the head-to-head numbers if it wasn't such a small sample. Phillies sucked at Dodger Stadium in 2008 regular season but then whooped it up there in NLCS.

Phillies' righthanders Blanton, Kendrick biding their postseason time
I hope they're drinking!

Will 'just enough' work against Phillies?
Anything can happen.

Giants fans pumped for next round
GAAAAARRRRRLIC FRIIIEEES!!!!!

Aces Price, Lee savor the pressure
But what about BIG GAME JAMES?!

Emotional Cox bids farewell to managing
I did feel just a dab of respect for Cox last night in his post-game presser, and I hate myself for it this morning.

Giants' Lincecum ready for showdown against Phillies' Halladay in NLCS
Need to get him high on Saturday afternoon. Volunteers?

Zoo With Roy: The Cole Hamels Fist Pump. Now in Meme Form
Just... go look. More posts on the site.

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"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Cole doesn’t have crow’s feet yet. He’s still blooming.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 12, 2010 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

OT for SBNation

I’m really liking the “Birth Control You Don’t Have to Take Every Day” ads. Clickity, clickity, clickity!

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 12, 2010 8:43 AM EDT reply actions  

support our advertisers, everyone!

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 12, 2010 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

As bad I as I wanted a game five. I can’t be too upset with the outcome. I thought it was incredibly appropriate that the Douchey Cody Ross helped end the Braves’ season. He is just as loathed by the Atlanta folks as he is by us.

Personally, I am offended by Ross’ beard.

by WanderingMoses on Oct 12, 2010 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I think Burrell is in the front seat, passenger-side. Aubrey Huff is driving, and Cody Ross is in the back seat with Timmeh.

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 12, 2010 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone notice just how damn CLASSY the Giants were in clapping for Bobby Cox in the midst of their celebration? Nobody in Philly would have done that.
 
/vomits on third grader

by Boundforbeach on Oct 12, 2010 9:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Didja see the new tagline this morning? Didja? Didja?

Remember the Phitans

by RememberthePhitans on Oct 12, 2010 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

just did… very cool indeed. Hopefully, we’ll move onto the “Fall CLASSic”

by Boundforbeach on Oct 12, 2010 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would be willing to bet that the Phillies might have done that.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think so too… I’m just being sarcastic. All the Braves fans and TCers are using this as an example of teams with class and those without as they profess their new found love for SF. Suck it Bobby Cox.

by Boundforbeach on Oct 12, 2010 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

So it’s not classy if you don’t cheer for Bobby Cox but it’s classy for Bobby Cox to chew out umpires a minimum of 158 times?

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is just being a passionate advocate for his team! After all, nice guys finish last.

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 5:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well, he’s only chewing them out for not being classy.

by Phrozen on Oct 12, 2010 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bobby Cox is from San Diego

True Fact

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just can’t fathom this obsession that Atlanta fans seem to have with classiness being manifested by other teams’ fans liking their team’s manager. I would expect other teams’ fans to make fun of Charlie’s accent, Andy Reid’s weight, etc. In fact, if they didn’t, I’d question their loyalty to their team.

by David S. Cohen on Oct 12, 2010 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am sure other teams fans do both of those things. Lord knows our fans do it.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

We all need to take a knee and kiss the ring. Make sure you show proper respect to Atlanta.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Then they would criticize the manner in which we did said kissing of the ring. Might as well just take the crap as we get it, because I don’t think we can win no matter what we do.

by WanderingMoses on Oct 12, 2010 10:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, this is certainly a game I want to lose.

by David S. Cohen on Oct 12, 2010 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Huh.
I don’t think we can win no matter what we do.

Have you never played the Braves?

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 12, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I meant in the worshipping of Atlanta. I mean no matter what we (as fans) do, it will never be enough to assuage the Atlanta fans. I guess I didn’t make that clear in the original post.

by WanderingMoses on Oct 12, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Misinterpretation on this end doesn't mean it was mispresented on yours.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 12, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

A team that can’t sell out an elimination game, no less.

by WanderingMoses on Oct 12, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know if anyone mentions this elsewhere but I got a chuckle watching the Bobby Cox post-game interview last night. He was commenting on how great the fans in Atlanta were and he said, “We sold out, the last, what (pause) five games, I think.” I don’t know if that was a subconscious dig at the fans, but it broke me up.

by phillyinportland on Oct 12, 2010 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh. I did catch a bit of it, but missed that particular aspect. Thanks for bringing my attention to it.

by WanderingMoses on Oct 12, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Internecine passive-aggression? Say it ain’t so!

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Church of Cox and Cult of the Chop exhbit several characteristics associated with religious fundamentalism such as 1) counter-modernism, 2) assertive, clamorous, violent behavior, 3) belief that they are ‘the Chosen’, 4) the belief in only one correct way of life, and 5) the following of an inerrant charasimatic leader to whom obedience is mandatory.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lol… What are they going to do now that their fearless leader has abandoned them and went off into the sunset?

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, he’s only going to the front office.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really liked it… A totally class move by San Fran.

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 5:15 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Great photo again, BTW. Devillock FTW.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 10:24 AM EDT reply actions  

Misfits-centric captions for the picture, courtesy of high school music taste:

“Cole Hamels’ career postseason ERA dips closer to ”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX3COyLWDig" target="new">One Thirty Eight."

“The Phillies hope to be playing until ”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMDZE6Sln0s" target="new">Halloween."

And last but not least (in best Jack McCaffery voice): “Cole Hamels has a whole new ”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RGuhgS9dDk" target="new">Attitude this year!"

by Trev223 on Oct 12, 2010 10:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Argh, link fail — sorry.

by Trev223 on Oct 12, 2010 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

MLBPA sent a cease and desist to ZWR to stop selling “It’s only gonna get funner” shirts. No likeness of Halladay on shirt. My guess is they plan to start selling their own with the slogan after they saw them all over the ballpark.

I hate “the man”.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Really? MLB is the worst. Anything and everything to alienate their fan base.

You would think they would get it after the Eagles – 49ers game beat the Phillies – Reds playoff game by 200% in the ratings.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nationally, this is true, but locally, apparently the Phillies beat the Eagles.

by WanderingMoses on Oct 12, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

The philadelphia tv market had the highest rating of any market for the sunday night football game (tvbythenumbers.com)

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Surprising they beat SF, given that there wasn’t a competing baseball game at the same time.

by phatj on Oct 12, 2010 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

San Fran was fifth on Sunday Night football actually – which shocked me -

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good to hear that. I was curious how it would be in Philly. I don’t know how they figure this in, but wouldn’t it still be a factor that NBC is available to everyone with a TV while you need cable or a dish to get TBS.

by phillyinportland on Oct 12, 2010 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

MLB and NFL are equally bad in their not freely distributing rights to anything. But, honestly, unless MLBPA decides to trademark the phrase “It’s only gonna get funner,” I don’t see how legally they can stop anyone else from using it. It’s just a string of words. This isn’t the first time they’ve been put in a sentence together. If there’s no picture of Roy on there or his name anywhere, I really don’t see the issue. Just flexing their muscle to be dicks. (Unless Roy is embarassed by said phrase and doesn’t want them produced—of course, it’s not hard to make your own t-shirts these days, just sayin’)

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

According to doubleh’s post it was MLBPA (the player’s union), not MLB itself. Which is a little weird if true.

by phatj on Oct 12, 2010 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s according to what I inferred from reading ZWR. Pretty sure the MLBPA works in conjunction with MLB when selling anything that relates to the players. They also have more lawyers who work closer to the ground than MLB’s, so it would stand to reason they have time to find this stuff on local blogs.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Could he have meant MLBP (MLB Properties) rather than MLBPA (MLB Players Association)?

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

too late

They already did.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 12, 2010 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s just an ugly shirt.

by WanderingMoses on Oct 12, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

And “only” $18 (plus shipping & handling).

by phillyinportland on Oct 12, 2010 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Damnit

With a “PH”? Really, MLB? So tired of the PH in place of F thing.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

But that is how Roy said it. Didn’t you hear him carefully use the “ph” instead of the “f” when he spoke that immortal line?

by David S. Cohen on Oct 12, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

So tired of the PH in place of F thing.

So, when’s the contest to rename this heah place?

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 12, 2010 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s OK in limited doses, but I hear you.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I wouldn’t want to be from a town spelled Filadelfia. That’s ugly.

by phillyinportland on Oct 12, 2010 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what it is in Espanol.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Doh. I forgot. But it’s still ugly.

by phillyinportland on Oct 12, 2010 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interestingly, “filadelfia” is also the Spanish word for all brands of “cream cheese”.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 12, 2010 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s what my mother-in-law calls it, and she’s Finnish.

by Phrozen on Oct 12, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This.

Also, I understand MLB generally wanting to protect its IP, but come on. This is a league that can’t get their shit together enough to give us Giants/Padres the last weekend of the season because a meaningless Yankees/Red Sox series is on… they really think that stepping on their fan base is the most pressing issue to deal with right now?

by PhillyFriar on Oct 12, 2010 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly. It’s not enough that they had to steal from one of the funnier Phillies bloggers out there, but they had to completely destroy the humor already inherent in Roy’s statement. This is the finest example I can think of in which a joke is put through the corporate grist mill and just destroyed. Poor ZWR.

by Trev223 on Oct 12, 2010 12:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s so very “Reality Bites”

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an epidemic that’s almost as bad as the “ill” shirts.

"I wish it went back to, like, old school, like banana hammocks." Ryan Lochte on FINA suit ruling

by alcatraz0109 on Oct 12, 2010 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now there is something I wish they would cease and desist!

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 5:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

So much for co-opting as a long-term strategery. MLB would be wiser to create “merch czar” positions for each team, a la how Zolecki blogs for the Phillies. I think with hipster merch creators like ZWR they’d stand to make a long-term killing. Plus it keeps the brand “cool” for us desirable demographic types who buy stuff.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 12, 2010 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

ZWR has been a boil on my butt for long enough
/MLB’d

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 12, 2010 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cody Ross

Why did it have to be him? Why? I just hate him soooooooo much.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 11:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Because Melky Cabrera came up a little short in the old measurement department.

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 12, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

So tired of seeing all the ratings re: Phillies vs. Eagles. The Eagles blog has been posting the numbers for the past few days and it just reeks of naked male insecurity. (i.e. My sport is bigger than yours!)

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

The ratings fight is such a pain to read about. I don’t really care that the NFL is more popular than MLB — frankly, even if I had a horse in that race, it’s not as if higher ratings benefit me in any way. I could be wrong, but I doubt MLB is truly in danger of collapsing just because it’s making less money for its somewhat less corporate backers.

by Trev223 on Oct 12, 2010 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

The ratings fight is such a pain to read about.

I was curios just to see how they did, so I looked but I didn’t realize anyone cared that much.

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh no, don’t get me wrong; from a curiosity perspective, I think it’s pretty compelling to read about how these ratings are compiled. The fight I mean is the one you usually see talked about on football blogs (PFT is a pretty strong offender here) by which football is shown the be superior to baseball because more people watch it. It’s just a point of view that misses the mark, I think.

by Trev223 on Oct 12, 2010 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

This applies in so many areas

It’s like people look at ratings as a way of validating quality or superiority of the content. I see the same argument all the time in regards to a certain news network that the higher number of viewers automatically makes any statement from unsaid news network more reliable than from another “lame stream” media network.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also football teams only play one game a week while baseball teams play six games a week during the regular season and three during the postseason. Comparing ratings for single games vs. single games seems methodologically wrongheaded.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, some use it as an excuse to bring out the tired “I hate baseball, it’s so boring,” “Where’s the loyalty” crap. It’s just an opportunity for them to bash another sport or team in the city.

Admittedly, I’ve seen it on both sides (Phillies and Eagles fans bashing the other).

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

On one hand, the Phillies and Eagles really are competitors in the economics sense, much more so than either team is a competitor with its own rivals in its own sport. The Cowboys, Giants, etc. are, in reality, the Eagles’ business partners, so it’s understandable that the business-side people (as opposed to the personnel people) would understand this and view things accordingly.

But on the other hand, this kind of piss-fighting is a giant turnoff to the vast majority of their customers, so you’d think they’d be able to control that impulse.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

And rereading, I see I misread. Again, I think it’s interesting to see how everyone did…drawing conclusions from those findings that bolster a kind of weird self-superiority is what irks me.

by Trev223 on Oct 12, 2010 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

So tired of seeing all the ratings re: Phillies vs. Eagles.

I hear you but it does matter.

Major League Baseball is stupid for trying to put its product up against the NFL. Or even college football for that matter.

It’s great that the Phillies beat the Eagles in Philly on Sunday night, as it should be IMO, but what is put on tv and the time slot it gets is based on National Marketing and not local. MLB should put their games on at times where it won’t have to compete with sports that are clearly a better draw nationally. I would think the Phillies beating the Eagles on Sunday is hardly a victory for MLB’s ratings department.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

While it may matter, it doesn’t mean all the jerks have to come out of the woodwork and use it as an excuse to bash one team in order to elevate the other. That’s the point I’m getting at here and what is tiring me out.

Also, have a bone to pick with overuse of the word “hater”. Just because you don’t like someone or something does not make you a “hater”. Let’s remove that word from the daily lexicon, shall we? /realizes her list is long for violations

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree…I don’t understand why it has to be one, or the other, why it can’t be both. The Phillies will always be my preference over the Eagles but if a Sunday comes around where they are both on at 1pm and the Phillies came is meaningless(relatively of course) then I will watch the Eagles game. Doesn’t mean I am picking sides, but obviously 1 Eagles game is more important than 1 Phillies game.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

When you live out of market (and your Time Warner overlords will not carry NFL Network and associated content) this is magnified. I only get to see, maybe 4 Eagles games a year. And Sunday was one of those chances. That makes the scheduling especially aggravating.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t really have a choice though. I don’t think it would be better for MLB to skip Sunday, and there are football games all day that day from noon to 10 pm.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well yeah there is not a whole lot they can do since MLB is apparently stuck on the idea that they have to have one game per day when the LCS roles around. But I do think it’s interesting that the NLCS has two games occurring on a Sunday(if it goes 7 games) where as the ALCS has none.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can try to plan it so the cities 2 teams don’t start games at exactly the same time. They easily could have flip-flopped the Phillies and Giants games with no harm. And Given that San Fran is a decent West Coast market and the Braves are a good TV draw, they would had good grounds for making that game PT instead of Phillies v small market Reds.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re assuming that MLB considers logic when putting together it’s schedule.

At the end of the day the decision is probably 95% what the network wants and 5% what baseball wants.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe there was a problem for Cincinnati- Great American Ball Park is only a mile from Paul Brown stadium, home of the Bengals, who had a 1 PM game that day. I am pretty sure that the two stadiums share parking lot space, so traffic concerns in Cinci may have influenced things the other way, forcing Phillies-Reds into the night time slot.

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent point.

I hadn’t thought of that. They do share parking (using that term very loosely since there really is no parking for either stadium). I absolve Bud Selig on this, cause that would have been a full on disaster.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's no excuse.

See 2008, World Series, Game Four; and (at) Philadelphia Eagles v. Atlanta Falcons.

by Phrozen on Oct 12, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

But there is a big difference between a World Series game (where there is only one and you want it where the most people will watch- Prime Time, and an LDS series where there is two games and some ability to flex on timing.

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 5:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

True.

And yes, the football game was earlier. I don’t remember how much earlier, but I was at both.

by Phrozen on Oct 12, 2010 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Plus the World Series was at night and the football game was at 1- was it changed by the NFL from 4 to 1 like the Giants game was last year?

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Harry Leroy Halladay vs. Timothy Leroy Lincecum

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 12, 2010 1:28 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

Tweet that shit, son!

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 12, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

twatted.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 12, 2010 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Roy on Roy crime.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s French for “King” isn’t it?

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 12, 2010 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, Le roi. “The King.”

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 12, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t know what’s the bigger misfortune, that both have the middle name of ‘Leroy’ or that Roy Halladay is actually the third generation to bear that full name.

by WanderingMoses on Oct 12, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Braves failed to sell that game out

Amazing. 44000ish were there, about 9000 less than Sunday night.

by Vaughn Haze on Oct 12, 2010 1:33 PM EDT reply actions  

So once again, Bobby Cox was wrong. The fans did not, in fact, “fill the place for the last five games.”

by Wet Luzinski on Oct 12, 2010 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He simply chose classy over accurate.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

So once again, Bobby Cox was wrong.

But by all means Atlanta, go on and blindly celebrate him.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s an unavoidable conclusion that they just don’t like baseball very much in Atlanta. There are many smaller cities out there that are more deserving of baseball teams.

The Braves will never move though, because their profitability is disproportionate to their popularity in their own metro area. This is because of the Turner legacy and their good fortune with geography. They semi-represent such a wide geographical area that they have a pretty large number of fans in absolute terms even though their fans per-capita level is pathetic.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I always thought it would be cool if New Orleans had a baseball team. But I would spare them the misfortune of taking on the Braves.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 12, 2010 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

They can have the Rays.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness, the Rays don’t draw that poorly. 22nd in the league, with one of the worst stadiums in baseball. Going from attendance, the top ones to move would be Cleveland, Oakland, Florida, Pittsburgh, and Toronto.

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Oct 13, 2010 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

22nd in the league

best overall record in the american league

that’s poor attendance

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 13, 2010 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

All seriousness though…New Orleans doesn’t seem to be a hot bed for sports either. The Hornets put up pretty bad attendance figures, even though they were fairly competitive for the last handful of years. And the Saints got virtually no one until post Katrina. I can’t imagine a baseball team would do all that well there.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saints didn’t draw that badly before Katrina. They were at 513,178 in 2004, which is about 64,000 per game (~92% capacity). Still, it probably was never a good candidate for baseball. Too poor, too small, not growing. And then after Katrina it shrank tremendously.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You meant basketball?

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And also, thanks for correcting my wrong assessment of Saints attendance. I honestly thought it was worse than that.

Also, Katrina was 6 years ago…that’s crazy.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Five years ago, but crazy indeed.

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this is all true. Charlotte maybe? That’s one of the few cities I can think of that’s growing these days.

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by FuquaManuel on Oct 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

TP just mentioned that below, I agree with him, I think it could have worked, but before Charlotte got it’s 2nd basketball team.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much all the Southern cities were growing like crazy as of the last census. Lots and lots of McMansions were built. We’ll see how well that survived the recession when the next census figures come out though.

Atlanta and Tampa both grew a ton, but it didn’t seem to help them. It’s a necessary condition but not a sufficient condition.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

What about Indianapolis?

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Indy grew 14% from 2000 census to 2009 estimate.

The fastest-growing metro areas in the Top 50 during that timespan (by , not by absolute numbers) were: Raleigh 41.25, Las Vegas 38.31%, Austin 36.43%, Phoenix 34.20%, Charlotte 31.20%, Atlanta 28.89%, Riverside CA 27.29%, Orlando 26.62%, Dallas 24.92%, Houston 24.43%.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

That might be a little misleading though. The New York metro area added a lot more people than Raleigh did, but it’s impossible to have a high growth rate in NYC because you’re starting from such a large base.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ok, so based on a purely unscientific process I could see Raleigh, Charlotte or Orlando as legit options for a pro sports team. I keep hearing Las Vegas but I just don’t see it.

Also, I would be willing if not somewhat excited to see Montreal get a team again. I feel like MLB just gave up on Montreal and decided to move the team without really trying to save the team.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

This feel like deja vu. No way Raleigh could support an MLB team, IMO. Charlotte, maybe, but I doubt it. Orlando I also doubt, but since they aren’t right by the beaches… maybe.

I agree on Montreal. Vancouver and Portland may also deserve shots.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I doubt a team would come to Orlando. There’s no stadium (the Citrus Bowl is not dual-use, Tinker Field is 96 years old with a capacity of 5,100, and Champion Stadium is a minor league stadium with a capacity of 9,500). Florida as a whole isn’t a great prospect, because very little of the population is native, and a lot of the immigrants from other states remain loyal to their teams. In Tampa, there are probably more Red Sox and Yankees fans than Rays fans.

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by The Dark on Oct 13, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty much every city without a current MLB team would need to build a Stadium or retrofit an existing stadium to get a franchise. And all fast growing cities are fast growing due to the number of non-natives moving there.

That said, I don’t think any teams are moving anytime soon.

by Cormican on Oct 13, 2010 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but Florida as a whole has had ridiculous growth for a long time. Since 1980, the population has almost doubled, from 9.7 million to 18.5 million. In that same time span, Pennsylvania’s gone from 11.8 million to 12.2 million. Almost 90% of Florida’s growth was from immigration, with very little being due to births exceeding deaths.

Another thing to note is that Orlando’s population density isn’t that high. The Orlando TV market (four counties) has a population density of 409 people per square mile, and a total population of around 3 million (the city proper is only a bit over a million, too small to be considered as an MLB market). Philadelphia has an urban population of 5.3 million and a density of 11,457 people per square mile.

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by The Dark on Oct 13, 2010 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Raleigh’s pretty small. It’s growing, but it’s still only 1.1 mill. By comparison, Milwaukee is the current smallest metro area in MLB by a lot and it’s got 1.6 mill.

I totally agree with you on Montreal though. If they could get a nice new ballpark it could succeed. Also, it’s a really awesome city.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, they actively killed the team; Montreal once had a pretty good fanbase

by yolacrary on Oct 12, 2010 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not anymore. Charlotte was a huge banking capital, and while it isn’t contracting, the growth has stalled since the whole banking crisis and half of it’s big employers merging and paring off redundant employees. There is no other city in the South that could support 162 baseball games a year.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

The deep south

As a whole is far more interested in college sports than professional sports. College football trumps everything in Dixie.

I am a baseball fan in Mississippi. While I have friends that are into baseball, I don’t anyone (ladies included) who is not a rabid (insert SEC team here) fan.

by Countificus on Oct 12, 2010 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

supposed to say

“I don’t know anyone” in the last sentence.

by Countificus on Oct 12, 2010 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do keep hearing that SEC football is everything to the south.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s definitely true. In SEC states that is (which isn’t all the Southern states).

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I guess that depends on your definition of the South. North Carolina is the only state that might be considered South that does not have a team in the SEC.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

And in NC it’s all College Basketball, all the time. With brief interruptions by NASCAR.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of think MLB could actually have succeeded in Charlotte, except that the NBA and NFL beat it there and now it’s an oversaturated market. But that could be wrong.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think it could, but Atlanta also wasn’t the same when the Braves moved there.

by Cormican on Oct 12, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I personally don’t consider Virginia to be the South. Parts of it definitely have that feel but not all of it. Especially Northern Virginia.

"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard

by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was born in northern Virginia. You can walk down the street and feel like you are in the deep south. But then again, PA is Philly/Pittsburgh and Pennsyltucky in between, so…we really can’t talk.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I lived in NoVa for 10 years. I never felt like it was the South, but I heard that places like Manassas and outlying counties were pretty redneck years ago. Northern Virginia is pretty damn cosmopolitan right now. Virginia definitely feels like two different states…

by Boundforbeach on Oct 12, 2010 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, Chantilly is where I lived until age 7 when I moved to central PA. It was 30 years ago, so I know it’s more built up, but you don’t have to drive too far to get to redneck.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I went to Virginia Tech for grad school, and definitely felt like I was in the South. Totally loved it, though.

by essman on Oct 12, 2010 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

My parents met there!

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

PA is Philly/Pittsburgh and Pennsyltucky in between…

The Amish mods here respectfully disagree.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 12, 2010 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amish, indeed. LOL. What I meant to say is that having lived in both areas, oddly Central PA isn’t much different from the South aside from the accents.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s fairly inaccurate. I would characterize the Susquehanna Valley as more metropolitan than, say, Mifflin County.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 12, 2010 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, in terms of behaviour and redneck inhabitants, it’s not inaccurate, at least not in Berks County.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

As someone who goes to college nearby to the Susquehanna River, I agree with doubleh. I do occasionally feel like this area belongs more in the south, not Pennsylvania.

An example: Pretty much every shuttle bus driver listens to country music while driving the bus.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 12, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Country music isn’t so much a Southern thing as it is a rural America thing.

by j reed on Oct 12, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to listen to country music on WJRZ out of Newark, NJ, when I was growing up.

by essman on Oct 12, 2010 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh sure. Many people do. I was making a the point that geographically speaking the stations tend to be more country oriented the more rural it gets.

by j reed on Oct 12, 2010 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not any more – country has gone mainstream

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, he’s right.

by phatj on Oct 12, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I should clarify

You’re right to, but that’s irrelevant to j reed’s point.

by phatj on Oct 12, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well as country becomes more mainstream than country stations become more ‘common’ in less rural areas.

I live 2 hours north of LA, no one would call this rural and I can pick up 5 different country stations, both south and north of me

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right, but the point is that it’s hard to find stuff that isn’t country out in the sticks.

by phatj on Oct 12, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kid Rock is probably more authentically redneck than 90% of Nashville right now.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 13, 2010 12:06 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

He’s more a grit. Think Dundalk, Md. just outside of Baltimore. Sorta urban redneck. Used to work with crew from there. Man they looked roadies for Dokken. It was always an adventures with those Baltimorons.

by j reed on Oct 13, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

There are a few of us who prefer MLB to college football, but we are a rarity.

by Countificus on Oct 12, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing even comes close

When you ask anyone who is their team down here you will more likely get an answer like Bama or LSU than the Braves or the Saints.

by Countificus on Oct 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

The New Orleans Ragin Cajuns!

by Phrozen on Oct 12, 2010 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I would think the University of Louisiana might take offense to that.

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by EREX21 on Oct 12, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m curious (and a little worried) about how the Phillies faithful will treat Lincecum at CBP on Saturday. I’m all for taunting opposing players, but I fear that the most obvious lines of attack are tasteless. Also, I don’t think any of it will work on him.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Timmeh sure looked playoff ready at home and his regular season road BA and OPS against are slightly lower than at home. He doesn’t look like a candidate to get rattled at CBP, but we can always hope.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I expect many references to 12 year olds, hippies and pot smoking.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

That would be a relief. I was thinking: “looks like a girl”, plays in SF – you can fill in the rest…

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, some of the attendees may scream some of that stuff, but with any hope the cost of the tickets will keep some of the riff raff out (like the drunken 20 somethings who can’t hold they liquor).

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Twink” perhaps? Or “chicken”?

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 12, 2010 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So…Hamels knows two chords?

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by The Dark on Oct 13, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

You know what I can’t wait for? The first dumbass Philadelphia columnist to write about how we have to watch out for the Giants because Aaron Rowand has taught them how to win. My money’s on Sam Donnellon.

by taco pal on Oct 12, 2010 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

I keep hearing how the sample size stats about how Halladay and Hamels have fared against the Giants are why the Phils are in big trouble.

Oh, and how the Phils aren’t hitting, even though they had a lot of hard hit balls that went right to fielders and caused errors, but whatevs.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

The giants were really tearing it up with the bats in that first series

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just remember- the columnists have columns to write every day during baseball season regardless of whether the Phillies have games to play. Gotta eat to live, gotta write to eat, otherwise they would not give us this crap?

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s plenty to write about that isn’t, you know, garbage, it’s just easier to spew the ‘tried and true’ nonsense

It’s lazy

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we wouldn’t want facts to get in the way of a good story.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cliff Lee with 100 pitches through seven in the elimination game.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

If the Rangers pick up another run or two this inning, it might be a good idea to pull him.

by essman on Oct 12, 2010 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m rooting for the rays cause I think they have a better chance to beat the yankees (purely irrational) and I really don’t want the yankees to make the world series again, i’m just tired of the yankees

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am torn about this game— I want nothing but good things for Cliff Lee, but I would rather face the Rays than the Rangers in the WS- the Philly media would be totally awful if given the chance to write about Cliff Lee vs. Roy Halladay.

As for the Yankees, me too… that and I hate them (I harbor a personal fantasy every year that they will be the first ever 0-162 team.

by dannijd on Oct 12, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

The philly media is going to be awful no matter what the match up

Cliff Lee
Rematch of last years loss
or how do you beat the same team 2 out of 3 years in the WORLD SERIES – it’s unpossible

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

The philly media is going to be awful no matter what the match up

And that’s why I don’t read ior listen to philly sports media. It is not like it has kitsch value or novelty weirdness. It just bad and it seems to get people worked up. It’s like choosing to listen to Rush Limbawl all day when you despise him which having had to do everday thanks to the owner of the welding shop I worked for, is something to avoid if possible.

by j reed on Oct 13, 2010 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Our dentist pipes in 80s soft rock. The procedure is a relative pleasure.

by essman on Oct 13, 2010 5:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I had a periodontist who had the Fray album on a fricking loop. 3 procedures, each 2.5 hours long. Gag me with a scalpel.

by j reed on Oct 13, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

And they bring him back out bottom 9 up 5-1. Huh.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

They don’t want to give the Rays life? I got nothing. Don’t they have a closer with a great arm?

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a great debate point. On the one hand, he’s dealing and it’s elimination time. On the other, you want to fight another day.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he needed to be on the mound when the Rangers won their first post-season series.

by essman on Oct 12, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Charlie seems to give pitchers their ‘moment’. There might be something to that from a motivational perspective.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

There might be something to resting your best pitcher as much as possible if you want him to be ready to pitch as soon as possible in the ALCS

lee isn’t making history – it’s not a no hitter, it’s not a perfect game, it’s a 4 run lead – it’s stupid to bring him out unless your closer died in the bullpen

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, as it is, Lee will be on full rest for Game 3 (Monday).

by essman on Oct 12, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that’s good, cause you want your best pitcher pitching his first game in the LCS on the road :)

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 12, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

This may not be that bad for the Rangers...

Cliff Lee’s ERA is significantly better at Yankee Stadium (2.40 in 4 starts there) than it is at the Ballpark at Arlington (5.07 in 14 starts). It also makes Lee available for a game 7 if it goes that far.

Also, Lee has no history pitching on short rest. Even if they had pulled him tonight once the four run lead was built, they probably would not have felt comfortable pitching him in Game 2.

by dannijd on Oct 13, 2010 1:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

That’s the way I looked at it. No reason to use another pitcher when you’re not “saving” Cliff Lee for some other purpose by lifting him early. Much as I’m sure they wish things were different, there is almost no chance that Lee would start game two on three days’ rest instead of game three on five days’ rest.

by phillyinportland on Oct 13, 2010 4:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

A pitcher on short rest can go 1-4-7 in a 7 game series

Maybe Cliff Lee is just incapable of going on short rest, didn’t do it last year either did he? Washington should have used Lee in game 4.

by SportingFanaticism on Oct 13, 2010 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rays – Phillies (should we get there) would have a Rays Redemption angle that could prove to be nauseating as well.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

reply fail

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nelson Cruz annoys me. If I’m Ron Washington, I fine his ass for staring at his double in the 4th inning.

by essman on Oct 12, 2010 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

You know who I’m mad at if I’m a Braves fan (which I’m not)—aside from Brooks Conrad—Gonzalez. There’s was an at bat late in the game yesterday where he hit a sharp grounder to short which the SS bobbled and Gonzalez never made it to first and ended up being out. In an elimination game he didn’t run out a ground ball…?

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the bobbling prevented a DP, but Gonzalez, anticipating a DP, basically stopped running and was an easy out.

by essman on Oct 12, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

And what’s funny is they traded Escobar for precisely this sort of thing if you are to believe the rumors.

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by doubleh on Oct 12, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ballgame.

Go Texas. Beat New York.

by Phrozen on Oct 12, 2010 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Lee’s line rocks: 9IP 6H 1R 1ER 0BB 11SO 1.13 ERA

But Roy woulda…

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff Francoeur is going to the ALCS. YAY GUYS!!!

Welcome to baseball hell.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 12, 2010 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

It was a hostage exchange for Hinske.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 12, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good work there.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 13, 2010 12:09 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dodger Fan

Go Phillies!
Damn, that was tough to say.

My name sucks.

by Dodgers on Oct 13, 2010 12:53 AM EDT reply actions  

We appreciate it nonetheless.

by essman on Oct 13, 2010 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

dodgers-giants-phillies

We’re like the kids who get used as pawns in messy divorces.

by taco pal on Oct 13, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

That analogy may not sit well with Dodgers fans right now.

by Cormican on Oct 13, 2010 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

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