Some Phillies Links For You, October 13, 2010: Don't Stop the Heaving, Smug Parade
Inman: La Russa sees a way the Giants can beat the Phillies
Without reading the article, I'm guessing: Moderate drinking, and/or Glenn Beck.
Cards Would Have Challenged, Possibly Beaten Phils - Redbird Rants
And if my Aunt had balls... well, she'd be awesome.
Phillies not filled with worry about bats
But they have rabies, and those leathery wings! EWWW. LOLOLLOLOLLLOL
Sizing up the Phillies' starting rotation - McCovey Chronicles
An interesting and possibly valid approach to the Phillies Big Three starters.
John Smallwood: Phillies' Domonic Brown learning how to be a winner
KILL. ME. NOW.
Yanks-Phils dynastic battle seems inevitable
I really don't want to associate myself with the smugness of this piece.
Giants-Phillies 2010 NLCS: What Is Pablo Sandoval's Role In The NLCS? - SB Nation Bay Area
Lunch?
Lincecum enjoying Giants' playoff run
HERBALLY
If Phillies win World Series, who would pay for parade?
Magic leprechauns?
Cliff Lee is worth everything the Texas Rangers could ever give him
If the Phillies still had Cliff Lee, they'd already be in the World Series.
Phillies ready to humiliate all NL opponents
Thanks for the bulletin board material, dude.
And lastly, the worst thing you'll ever see, in the history of ever...
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The McCovey Chronicles piece is such a great example of why it felt right to root for the Giants over the Braves. Funny, self-effacing, not resentful — it’s really nice to be in competition with a blog that has a sense of humor.
Too true. MCC was a fine fine read the past two NLCSes. I don’t know if there’s a TGP equivalent to their hatred for Russell Martin (maybe Reyes when the Mets were contending?), but watching them go after the guy was hilarious.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Oct 13, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
That was funny
Although it’s possibly that they may hate Victorino more.
by Screen Name 20 on Oct 13, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
True
I will feel very bad about crushing them and destroying their team. Actually that’s not true. They have a good team and McC is the cream of the SBN sites, pretty much. This series scares me, as we could be both outpitched and outsnarked. That could be tough to deal with this. This should be an epic series.
And a great Dutch Daulton link for you – http://www.thefightins.com/chris/phillies-postgame-live-pants-optional/
why do people make such a big deal about that Pujols homer off of Lidge? I see it referred to all the time.. Is it supposed to be embarrassing to give up a HR to Pujols?
Of course, on the other other hand, the Reds won the 1975 World Series after Carlton’s Fisk homer also.
Posterized!
Remember the Phitans
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 13, 2010 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Is it supposed to be embarrassing to give up a HR to Pujols?
I would say no, but some people pointed to that home run as the event that triggered Lidge’s downfall…and then 2008 happened.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
And people still point at the Pujols HR as the defining moment of Lidge’s career.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 13, 2010 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Compare his stats/performance before the home run to the games in the post-season after it as well as the following year. People like to say that the Pujols home run rattled him, given the important game situation, and his performance was affected for the next year.
Not sure I buy that, but that’s the argument.
by David S. Cohen on Oct 13, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
In regards to Lidges struggles, there was also the story going around that he was tipping his pitches. I believe he was informed a new teammate who had previoulsy batted against Lidge.But there was also a rumor that Pujols himself told Lidge he was doing it…
But that ball was absolutely destroyed by Pujols!
Yeah
That wasn’t just any run-of-the-mill home run, it was one of the longest ever at Minute Maid Park I believe.
Not that I think that giving up a moon shot should be particularly damaging to a pitcher’s psyche but that’s the way it was portrayed.
If it is, then there are a lot of embarrassed pitchers out there!
More seriously, Pujols did not homer so much as he put that ball in orbit.
by dannijd on Oct 13, 2010 10:43 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Never saw it, didn’t happen
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 13, 2010 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions
lawl
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.
by FuquaManuel on Oct 13, 2010 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
That Cardinals article is just sad.
What a pointless exercise. Not to mention the fact that tue Phils would have run train anyway.
"I'm colonel cool! And I'm the captain on this rocket to the stars!"
by psuphiman80 on Oct 13, 2010 10:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
I think cubs fans would like to have a word with you
about whining about 3-4 years.
I've been waiting my whole life for an Eagles Championship
RIP JJ
nuthin'
I was really thinking of something along the lines of “catching VD” but nothing that would do the photo justice.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 13, 2010 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Let’s see Hamels cover his face with this…
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Oct 13, 2010 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I must
say, today’s link summations were particularly funny. Nice job today.
That Redbirds Rant article is pretty bad.
But, the Reds showed that they were not worthy opponents for the Phils and they did not represent the best of the N.L. Central…
Ummmm, no. The Reds won the division fair and square, had the best offense in the senior circuit, and maybe a deeper rotation than anyone in baseball. They ran into a matchup nightmare in the Phillies, who threw three aces at them, is in no way a reflection on how good of a team the Reds were. (If anything, it seems to me that the Reds and Rays were victims of having deep rosters rather than top-heavy ones, which — especially on the starting pitching front — can weigh disproportionately on the outcome of a short series.)
But wait, there’s more…
The Cardinals missed a huge opportunity at another World Series title by losing the division to the Reds.
How does that follow? Unless we assume that the mighty Cardinals would have simply swept aside the Phillies, of course. I’m literally shaking my head.
On one hand, he’s technically sort of right. The Cardinals would “possibly have beaten the Phils” in a 5-game series. Of course, the same could be said of the Nationals or the Cubs.
Playoff baseball is the crapshootiest of crapshoots, so if you want to say that “The Cardinals missed a 12.5% chance to win the World Series” — and even that I find dubious, but just for sake of argument — then fine. But the use of the phrase “huge opportunity,” not to mention the clear unmasked bitterness, is just off-putting.
Yeah. He does have a problem insofar as he does not seem to recognize that the Cardinals are not a very good team.
Only three?
I count Pujols, Pujols, Carpenter, Pujols, Wainwright, Pujols, Carpenwright, Pujols, and Pujols.
I guess this means that the Phillies are only
Utley, Halladay and Werth.
Did I miss any?
Surely none that qualify more than Holliday, Jaime Garcia and Colby Rasmus.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
So what you’re saying is that the Cardinals are really a five- or six-man team, not a three-man team? That’s what you went through the trouble of signing up here to say?
This reminds of how in the 1970s a magazine named Rep. William L. Scott the dumbest member of Congress, and he responded by calling a press conference to deny it.
I've been signed up here for a long time.
I’m signed up to most SBN baseball sites, I think I might have even made a few comments on here before.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Oct 13, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
So, upon seeing six Pujolses, and one-and-a-half each of Carpenters and Wainwrights (adding up to nine, you’ll note), you assumed I was serious?
it was kind of funny, to be honest
you just happened to be the comment to which I decided to make my point that calling the Cardinals a 3 player team is a rather dumbed down view of things.
Six Pujolses would be sweeeeeeeet.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
at the risk of taking throwaway comments too seriously
Hamels = 4.7 WAR
Ruiz = 4.4 WAR
Victorino = 3.6 WAR
Oswalt = 2.8 WAR (in 12 starts)
Rasmus = 2.9 WAR
by perfectdepth on Oct 13, 2010 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't really trust that WAR value
given the anomalous defensive metrics Rasmus has received this season. If you take his defense to be an average of this year and last year, his WAR ends up around 4.3.
If knowledge is the key, then just show me the lock.
Got the scrawny legs but I move just like Lou Brock.
by purple_haze on Oct 14, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice touch. If Monty Python were doing skits about baseball today they could use you as a consultant.
by phillyinportland on Oct 14, 2010 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll say this much: there’s an argument to be made that the Cardinals were better equipped for a 5-game playoff series than the Reds based on their top-heavy roster (essentially, on Wainwright/Carpenter). That’s not the point the author really makes in the piece, however, which is why it comes off as sour grapes.
Now we could give 'em a little rope or stomp all over their nuts with our spikes on like a Yankees fan would.
Not meant to as reply to PFriar directly, but to the spirit of the thread. This was just a convenient point to interject.
If your team is not only swept but shits the bed in the process you might also feel inclined to exaggerate you claims to rationalize the pain away. The leading NL offense was shut -out and no hit. And more than just no hit, when the pitcher in his first post season game (and AB) drives in a run you were, in a many ways, beat by one man and a man who, not only, like most pitchers poses the least offensive threat but spent his entire career in the AL until this year. This is nothing short of having your nose rubbed in your own shit. Playing the role of loser in a baseball historical event of this magnitude and imagining it written on the Roy Halladay Cooperstown plaque while you’re trying to fall asleep is no less painful than shoving a pack of lit sparklers up your ass. Futhermore, either an Adam Dunn clone army played every position or the Reds decided to use the Nationals Fielding Method – they blew a 4 run lead because they fielded like Brooks Conrad who forgivably played like what he is: a genetically inferior, 30 year old career minor leaguer. No such absolution for the Reds starters. That 2nd game, in particular, was a flat out embarassment and not even Dusty partook in the fail; in fact, this game, as well the other two, were free of his snark bait managerial decisions . And let’s not forget the 4 game series sweep in June: 3 consecutive walk-off wins, one inwhich we came from behind to tie in the 9th inning with 6 fucking runs (all hail the Dobbs and Ransom Wonder Twins Power Hour), and each game with the B-squad infield. That’s humble pie in the face whipped around a particle accelerator. And those odds….hmmm, slightly less than Paris Hilton proving Einstein’s Theory of Everything. More pie.
It’s one thing to be humbled because your out classed or victimized by the inherent chance of the game but quite another to help in your humiliation like a team of the Reds talent did . It’s if your gonna die , die with your boots on, not die with shit in your pants. They stunk period and they know it.. Would it have made a difference without the mistakes? Sure, at the very least they still had a puncher’s chance (and quite a punch it is) if they played more soundly. If Reds fans need to convince themselves that sour grapes will make the best wine to drown out their disappointment over that long, cold Ohio winter, then I think it is best to pay them no mind rather than dissect their pain because we feel slighted. In sports fandom, this stituation is one of the few times the proverb good fences make good neighbors might work.
by j reed on Oct 13, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Harsh. True, but harsh. The fact that they helped in their own humiliation is part of baseball, not some particular reason to single out the Reds or their fans for extra disapproval. I agree with the last part about not dissecting their pain because this sounds like gloating.
by phillyinportland on Oct 14, 2010 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I, for one, thought this was funny. Maybe Passan should stick to the reportin’ and stay away from the commentatin’.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLyiuTRZnjE
i think this video MIGHT be worse. I can’t tell
Enter the Vicksperience.
Read this today
The Rangers cut ties with announcer Josh Lewin today declining to pick up the option on his deal.
There’s some rumors floating about that they are interested in replacing him with Scott Franske. THIS CANNOT HAPPEN! Can’t we trade TMac for Lewin?
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Wondering
If this is why we’ve been getting more and more Jim Jackson lately? Something’s definitely up. Fudge.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
I’d be OK with it. I like Franzke but not as much as most others do. And I think Jackson is better than Franzke is. I understand that this is a minority view.
Yes, but then who does hockey for the Flyers? (I’m a huge Flyers fan, too, and would like to see their best interests served here as well)
Just don’t like. TMac can go to Texas. I will buy his plane ticket.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
An extreme minority view, report to a re-education camp comrade.
"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez
by Jose and the Contrarians on Oct 13, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Huh?
JJ’s been doing the same three innings or less he’s done all year. What am I missing?
And while I’ve got nothing against Texas, the only way I support Franzke headin’ south is if we get Cliff Lee in trade.
FWIW
Franzke came to the Phillies from the Rangers and is from Texas.
He just started doing it this year, though, and there was some rumor he might be being primed for a full-time job with the Phils. This is all speculation based on rumor, so take with a grain of salt, but that’s why I wondered aloud. If Franske leaves, they could offer his job to JJ.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
Reds "Dear John Letter"
A passage:
It’s Not All You: Really, it’s not. Matter of fact, it was hardly you. It’s Roy Halladay(notes). Did you know his name is Doc? Did you hear we’re in the middle of “Doctober?” Had you heard it was his first postseason start? No? Also, there’s Chase Utley(notes). It’s him too. When the Phillies play the Reds in 2011, I hope he gets beaned. Then his second time up, bean him again, just so he’s sure he knows what being hit by a pitch actually feels like.
Chase Utley knows quite a bit about what being HBP feels like, j/a. Just ask John Lannan.
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
I have yet to see – in discussions of relative class – any mention of the complete and total lack of retribution by Phillies pitchers after three Reds’ plunks. Clearly a wise move in a short series, but also a classy one. The Dodgers would have gone plunk for plunk methinks.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Oct 13, 2010 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Retribution hit by pitches are one of the dumber things in baseball anyway. Besides, the reds didn’t do any of those on purpose, and utleys HBP was jeter like
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 13, 2010 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Psshhhh
The White Sox had “Don’t Stop Believing” as their song in 2005. Everybody else is just copying them. :-D
2005 Chicago White Sox. 2006 Chicago Rush. 2008 Philadelphia Phillies. 2009-10 Chicago Blackhawks. CHAMPIONS.
Doctober: Roy Halladay's postseason no-hitter (2nd in history!) ~ 10-6-10
"We're going to try and knock the crap out of everybody." ~ Brian Urlacher

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