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Phillies-Giants NLCS Pitching Probables

Here are your likely pitching matchups for the NLCS. Long story short: the Giants rotation is, in fact, really good, although the Phillies will still have noticeable xFIP and SIERA advantages in four of the seven games.

If you really want to nitpick the other side, it does appear that two of their starters benefited quite a bit from luck-based stats this year - Jonathan Sanchez with a low BABIP and Matt Cain with a low HR/FB rate. For Cain, at least, that's nothing new, as he seems to post unusually low HR/FB rates every single year. We've had discussions in the past as to whether he might actually have a rare skill at depressing those rates, or whether he's just had a very long stretch of good luck. I don't know which is the better explanation. (For whatever it's worth, his career home/road splits for HR/FB seem fairly modest.)

On the other hand, one other thing to keep in mind here is that the stats in the table below are cumulative stats for the entire 2010 season. Using full-year stats is generally a good idea because it provides objective, across-the-board time parameters that you can't manipulate. But at the same time, in reality, if you're trying to evaluate present quality, stats accumulated in April 2010 are somewhat less relevant than those accumulated in September 2010 and not so much more relevant than those accumulated in September 2009. So just looking at full-year 2010 stats is, in some sense, arbitrary, and doesn't necessarily tell the whole story.

For the Giants, September 2010 was an especially good month for all of their top four starters (xFIPs for the month: Lincecum 2.21, Bumgarner 3.08, Sanchez 3.56, Cain 3.57). Of course, that's a small sample so you have to take that with a grain of salt. But there is at least an argument that can be made that at this instantaneous moment of 12:30 p.m. on October 15, 2010, all four of the Giants' probable starters are better than or equal to each of their probable opponents from the Philies, only one of whom (Blanton) greatly outperformed his full-season xFIP in September.


Games Pitcher G GS IP K/9 BB/9 HR/9 BABIP GB% LD% FB% HR/FB ERA FIP xFIP SIERA
1, 5 Halladay 33 33 250.2 7.86 1.08 0.86 .298 51.2 19.1 29.7 11.3% 2.44 3.01 2.92 2.93
Lincecum 33 33 212.1 9.79 3.22 0.76 .324 48.9 19.5 31.6 9.9% 3.43 3.15 3.21 3.16
2, 6 Oswalt 33 32 211.2 8.21 2.34 0.81 .261 45.7 17.6 36.7 9.1% 2.76 3.27 3.45 3.29
Sanchez* 34 33 193.1 9.54 4.47 0.98 .262 41.5 14.8 43.7 9.8% 3.07 4.00 4.11 3.70
3, 7 Hamels* 33 33 208.2 9.10 2.63 1.12 .296 45.4 16.7 37.9 12.3% 3.06 3.67 3.43 3.19
Cain 33 33 223.1 7.13 2.46 0.89 .260 36.2 17.2 46.6 7.4% 3.14 3.65 4.19 3.90
4 Blanton 29 28 175.2 6.87 2.12 1.38 .331 41.9 19.4 38.7 12.2% 4.82 4.34 4.06 4.01
Bumgarner* 18 18 111.0 6.97 2.11 0.89 .322 45.1 16.9 38.0 8.1% 3.00 3.66 4.03 3.88
N/A Kendrick 33 31 180.2 4.18 2.44 1.30 .289 44.5 17.2 38.3 10.9% 4.73 4.88 4.81 4.94
Zito* 34 33 199.1 6.77 3.79 0.90 .285 36.1 18.6 45.3 7.5% 4.15 4.25 4.77 4.54

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I just want to thank you for saying this:

For the Giants, September 2010 was an especially good month for all of their top four starters (xFIPs for the month: Lincecum 2.21, Bumgarner 3.08, Sanchez 3.56, Cain 3.57). Of course, that’s a small sample so you have to take that with a grain of salt. But there is at least an argument that can be made that at this instantaneous moment of 12:30 p.m. on October 15, 2010, all four of the Giants’ probable starters are better than or equal to each of their probable opponents from the Philies, only one of whom (Blanton) greatly outperformed his

I have been trying to convince my friends here in Philly about this and all I get in response, except from one, is ERA…BLAH BLAH BLAH…no hitter…Blah balh blah…hasn’t lost at CBP… Blah Blah blah.

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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

No problem.

To be clear, there are also legitimate arguments that go in the other direction. Whose rotation is better is a close call and reasonable people can disagree.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure. I don’t think we can really say which one is better but the possibility that one is better than the other exist.

The Phillies rotation has been solid and consistent, while it seems like the Giants fluctuates wildly. But I think in the end the talent level 1-3 is pretty damn equal even if the results this year haven’t been.

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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I’m sure if you lived in SF you’d run into just as many people who don’t look at this series objectively, either and see SF as being the superior team in every way. Blogs like this tend to bring out the more intelligent baseball fans. All your friends here in Philly are Phillies fans and tend to be homers.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

For sure.

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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

But I’m sure if you lived in SF you’d run into just as many people who don’t look at this series objectively, either and see SF as being the superior team in every way.

And you can find many of them in one convenient location…

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lefties

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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

A-ha

There goes my MENSA dreams.

by Cormican on Oct 15, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

There goes my MENSA dreams.

There go my MENSA dreams.

;P

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

< Larry Andersen >

Heh.

< / Larry Andersen >

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow.

Cain is really good. Much moreso than I thought.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Cain is truly fascinating as the subject of a statistical study. FIP loves him, xFIP and SIERA not so much, and really the debate hinges on how “real” his ability to suppress HR/FB% is (as TP says above). Either way you side on that issue, though, he’s still a pretty good pitcher.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2010 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are popups considerd FBs? Maybe Cain has a way of inducing popups and other weakly hit flies?

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depending on the source, HR/FB is expressed as home run per outfield fly ball, home run per fly ball (pops included), or home run per ball-in-air (non ground ball). Incidentally, Cain is good at all of them.

I wrote about this in my Cain discussion in my pitching previews for Baseball Prospectus, but Cain just seems like a pitcher who will beat his SIERA consistently because of the home run supression he has going. There is a slight tendency for pitchers who get a lot of infield popups to also get fewer homers on outfield flies, and Cain would be the example here. I’m sure there is a little luck, but he’s definitely better than his SIERA. BTW my discussion of Cain will re-printed with some additional notes on it before Tuesday’s game.

by Matt Swartz on Oct 15, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

as in “Needs Assessment;” “Not Authorized” or “Narcotics Anonymous”…

by Boundforbeach on Oct 15, 2010 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or as in “Not going to stArt.”

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or “Never Aces”

Honor is no substitute for victory.

by The Dark on Oct 15, 2010 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Negative Advantage”

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

“NAsty, and Not in a good wAy”

“Normally Atrocious”

“NAaaaah”

by Rujasu on Oct 15, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not worth the heArtburn

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nerve-wracking At bats

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not Awesome

It's better to be lucky than good.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 16, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

No Ability

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 16, 2010 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kendrick is on the NLCS roster, so we may still see him. Dobbs was left off to give him a spot.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 9:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This is great work. Thanks.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 1:49 PM EDT reply actions  

MadBum.

Great caption there, TP. I said over on MCC how Bumgarner went from overrated prospect to underrated starter seemingly in the blink of an eye… the turnaround is impressive, what with the fastball touching 95, the ground ball numbers way up, and the death to lefties approach (4.3 K/BB) paying its dividends. I’m inclined to agree with what Christina Kahrl said in the BP preview: between Bumgarner’s skill set and the fact that the Phillies have never seen him, the Giants have to be Game 4 favorites (with all due respect to Joe Blanton).

by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2010 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Kershaw-esque

Fair assessment?

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by WholeCamels on Oct 15, 2010 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would like that assessment if the Phillies get the same results, please.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he has Kershaw’s upside (that’s hardly a knock on Bumgarner, by the way), but the whole “power lefty who makes it to MLB at a precocious age” thing fits pretty well.

As far as results, what doubleh said. What’s interesting, though, is that Torre didn’t include Kershaw in his rotation for the 2008 NLCS (in Kershaw’s Age 20 season), choosing instead to go with Derek Lowe on 3 days’ rest. Bochy seems to have no such reservations in deploying Bumgarner, for whatever that’s worth.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

My memory could be wrong, but I think Torre made that decision on the fly – that is, he didn’t name his Game 4 starter until after they lost the first two at CBP. That’s still different from Bochy, who’s affirmatively named Bumgarner, but he could still change his mind if they find themselves down in the series at that time.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

In regards to MadBum’s prospect status. I wouldn’t say he was all that overrated. The drop in his numbers occurred with a drop in his MPH. If you look at his pitch f/x data from last year he was struggling to hit 90/91 mph!!! Now he is hitting 95, like he was early in his career. I think that his prospect rating stayed high b/c people wanted to see if the velocity drop was real. Unlike Tim Alderson who was hugely overrated by BA and Giants fans alike. But once the new prospect smell left and started to fall of a cliff stats wise everyone pretty much accepted it.

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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t mean “overrated prospect” to be disrespectful to Bumgarner; it’s just that I’m aware of the huge discussion in the prospect community regarding Bumgarner’s velocity. When it became pretty clear that the 98 radar gun readings that were being thrown about were exaggerated, and he struggled to strike people out both in Double-A last year and Triple-A this year, I would never have predicted his current major league success. That success is legit, though, don’t get me wrong — hence the “underrated starter” part.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2010 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know. I was just saying why he was overrated. B/c his results did not dictate the praise for a while.

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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened to throttling him back?

Guess that will happen when he stops improving.

Also, this.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Giants are Game 4 favorites. Phillies are favorites for the other six games on account of having a legit offense, though.

by Rujasu on Oct 15, 2010 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zing!

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey TP… I stumbled on this Q&A with David Montgomery a few weeks ago. Apologize if this was already linked, but I don’t recall seeing it. Some decent quotes and background of his rise to team President and CEO. Thought you might find it interesting…

http://blog.pennlive.com/patriotnewssports/2010/10/bank_on_it_qa_with_david_montg.html

by Boundforbeach on Oct 15, 2010 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks! This is great.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love how

all of these pitcher comparison threads have no mention of w/l record…this blog is awesome

by PhilsForever on Oct 15, 2010 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm reading it as sincere praise.

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

indeed

you would be correct, it is a great thing, everywhere else uses w/l record, ie mainstream media, which is inaccurate in my opinion, I like that our comparisons don’t even mention it

by PhilsForever on Oct 16, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good article

But I think it should have accounted for the likelihood of the Giants’ pitchers being rattled by the threat of Phillies’ fans intentionally vomiting on them.

THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).

by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 15, 2010 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Or Getting Tasered

If they get out of control and run around the outfield too much
…I’m just sayin’

by woodyj on Oct 15, 2010 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, I really hope Lincecum leaves his pot at home then.

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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Werth would just bogart it anyway.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

It's better to be lucky than good.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 16, 2010 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

I don’t think that “pitchers getting rattled” thing is entirely without merit. But yeah, it’s getting massively overstated of late.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, a pitcher going on short rest for the 4th consecutive start who can’t find the strikezone against the worst hitting pitcher on the team is one thing, but Lincecum is quite another. I don’t see Timmy getting rattled except in my dreams.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did this happen?

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sabbathia vs. Myers

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before you became a fan, obviously.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 15, 2010 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

While I was working two jobs (neither with Internet connections). The ’08 DS is largely a blank for me, as I worked through all 4 games.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 9:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I mainly remember Myers drawing that walk and Victorino’s salami.

Myers was ridiculously good at the plate that post season for some reason.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude has two Cy Youngs. If he could be rattled, I think someone would have figured it out by now.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone can be rattled…

by h2o_34_35_44 on Oct 15, 2010 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that’s wrong.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I stand corrected!

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Timmah Lincecum is….MacGyver!

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you mean, MacGruber!

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd, because, hey, it could happen and I haven't read about it anywhere else.

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 16, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Jack Bower > Lincecum ?

by h2o_34_35_44 on Oct 16, 2010 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I mean, Jack Bauer is pretty much the most badass person ever…

by PhillyFriar on Oct 16, 2010 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

1993 Wimbeldon Jana Novotna vs. Steffi Graf

Novotná reached her first singles final at Wimbledon, where she faced Steffi Graf. After losing a tight first set, Novotná took a 6–7, 6–1, 4–1, 40-15 lead then doubled faulted after which Graf took the next five games and the title.
 
That’s bad.

by j reed on Oct 16, 2010 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know there is luck involved, etc., and big-hype events can disappoint if someone has a bad day…
but Saturday should be awesome!
Clash of Titans
Best 2 pitchers in the NL facing off…

by woodyj on Oct 15, 2010 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

please tell me...

…that “MadBum” is not an actual, frequently used nickname for Bumgarner.

this whole first name/last name mashup–as–nickname trend cannot end soon enough. (yes, I hate hearing “J-Roll” too.)

by perfectdepth on Oct 15, 2010 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ve seen it at times, but my understanding was always that it was more of a sarcastic example than anything (akin to Kenyon Martin’s “K-Mart,” for instance).

by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

To be fair, MadBum isn’t nearly as bad as, say, the [Letter]-Rods and the like. Although, The Mad Bum would be much better.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Both of his names are so long that MadBum is easier.

Would prefer Maddy or Bummy?

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by say hey nation on Oct 15, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

ooof

“Bum Fights” is the most depressing thing in the world.

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by WholeCamels on Oct 15, 2010 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

or as we call it in Berkeley

“Tuesday”

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by jctGamer on Oct 15, 2010 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

touche

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by WholeCamels on Oct 15, 2010 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

some ideas:

I think you could work with his hometown—Hickory is such a great, evocative word. too early for “Old Hickory,” of course, and “Young Hickory” is far too derivative. I’m thinking maybe the Hickory Hacksaw? it has some nice alliteration and internal consonance. the Hickory Hammer?

alternatively, you could go with something about how he was the youngest guy to start a game for the Giants in San Francisco. “Kid” is always a nice choice. or something relating to the speed of his fastball, although “Rocket” is already taken.

by perfectdepth on Oct 15, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Clemens voided any claim to “Rocket.”

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

There was also Rocket Ismail.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Younger brother: The Missile.

by Ritty77 on Oct 15, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s better than his full name. Madison? For a guy? I don’t even like it for a girl.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah…If you are going for the “Presidential last name as first name” thing, why not stick to the tried-and-true Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, or Roosevelt ?

by woodyj on Oct 15, 2010 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

you forgot Coolidge, Hoover, and Fillmore

by calbearjd on Oct 15, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who want to name their kid after Hoover? I thought you wanted to name your kids after GOOD presidents.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about “Bush”?

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ummm, did you not just read what I wrote?

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Buchanan and Harding…
How about Presidential middle names?
Want to name your kid Gamaliel or Quincy?

by woodyj on Oct 15, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buchanan is okay…but Harding is just a punk…

by calbearjd on Oct 15, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

See McLish, Calvil Coolidge Julis Caesar Tuskahoma.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

How about Grover Cleveland Alexander? Aparently no one called him Grover – he was Pete.
And Cal McLish? Wow, he was the Phillies leading starter for 1963. The Terry Mulholland 1992 of the team.

by phillyinportland on Oct 16, 2010 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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by jctGamer on Oct 15, 2010 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Get Mad, get glad.


You babes talk about your madison shoes
We’ve got a thing we call the madison blues
We do the Madison blues
We do the Madison blues
We do the Madison blues, baby
Rock away your blues

jct, if anyone can do a proper Mad tribute you can.
Something a la “All Your Base/Buster Posey”
I have faith.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I prefer Angry Hobo

"He knocks a stake through the heart of the Cardinals! The Cardinals are dead! The Giants are going to the World Series!!!" -Jon Miller

t's Posey time!!

Screw you Flannery.

by sanfrankid on Oct 16, 2010 5:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Phillies are now a lock for the WS
Phillies fifth starter Kyle Kendrick was left off the NLDS roster, but with Philadelphia potentially needing to use someone other than The Big Three to start against the Giants he’s back on the roster for the NLCS.

Kendrick won’t start, because Joe Blanton will get the assignment if Charlie Manuel turns to a mere mortal in Game 4, but he’ll be available as a long reliever and possible extra-innings emergency arm.

Domonic Brown remains on the roster after appearing just once as a pinch-hitter in the NLDS. He got the nod over veteran Greg Dobbs, which is a good call by the Phillies. Brown didn’t do much while playing sparingly in his first taste of the big leagues, but he crushed Triple-A pitching for most of the season and is among the best hitting prospects in baseball.

by calbearjd on Oct 15, 2010 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Kendrick may be a nice human being, but Kendrick the pitcher should be locked away on an island fortress for the duration of this series. Preferably in an iron mask.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s only there in the event of some catastrophe like an injury or a blowout.

I’m more bothered by the exclusion of Dobbs. Whatever small benefit we gain from Brown being the better hitter is outweighed by the risk presented by having only one backup non-1B infielder.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bill Baer said the same thing in a brief piece earlier today, and I definitely agree: whatever the marginal drop off between Brown and Dobbs as pinch hitting options this offseason seems far outweighed by the risk of defensive disaster in the event of injuries.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2010 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Though It’s nice to have a better a pinch running option than Valdez.

by j reed on Oct 15, 2010 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait a minute, Dobbs serves a purpose? I always thought the guy sucked.

by LeQuan Glover on Oct 15, 2010 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really shouldn’t be hard for you to figure out what you’re missing.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

He does suck, but he provides the team valuable depth in the infield. No one is going to mistake him for an elite player, but by not putting Greg Dobbs on the roster, the Phillies only have 1 back-up infielder when there are 2 starting in-fielders who are playing with injuries. The Phillies are taking a risk because as bad as Dobbs is at 3rd, he is a better option at 3rd than Carlos Ruiz, who has played 3rd once in his entire MLB career, IIRC.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Right.

And in a worst case scenario — say, Rollins reaggravates his injury and should sit out a few days — you’re left with a really difficult decision: replace Rollins on the NLCS roster (ruling him out for the World Series, if we got there), or rolling with no left side of the infield backups.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 15, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t think the full extent of the problem struck me until I read your comment. It’s really dumb. Is it too late to change? Not that Charlie and/or Ruben would ever change their minds.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Totally scary thoughts- both of which one would have expected the Phillies to think of given how injury plagued they have been this season.

by dannijd on Oct 16, 2010 12:51 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

   Either a] KK is as developed as much as possible and is just genetically inferior to other players, or b] the organization failed to develop his more limited genetic athletic potenial to the fullest. Whatever the case maybe, the fault lies on the organization to properly gauge his ability or develop him. Unless of course they are satisfied with KK in which case he’s a success relative to the team’s needs and payroll demands.

by j reed on Oct 15, 2010 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think that’s reading a little too much into it. Some guys just aren’t that good. Such is life.

Kendrick is just a backup fifth starter who isn’t paid much. For that, he’s fine.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kendrick’s future in MLB might be as a reliever. His stuff isn’t all that different from Ryan Franklin’s if you think about it. Franklin is way overrated but he isn’t terrible either, as a reliever.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just get on Jponry's bad side.

Really opens your eyes to a world of alternatives.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking for myself, I have to say that all of the MCC visitors here have been quite welcome. Everyone knocks the mud off their cleats at the door and – so far – no one has demanded that we pay homage to your legendary manager/tiki idol/distaff cult leader.

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why would we ask that which we cannot ask of ourselves?

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

We have not been dealing with entire rational beings here of late.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm here to keep the status quo.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

/cues up Randy Newman’s "Half A Man"

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy Newman and Pixar are a match made in…well, California, probably.

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Giants that ONLY barely manged to beat the Braves because Conrad Brooks made 4 errors?

or was it 6? the truth is that it was not for Brooks the Giants would be going on vacation.

THOSE Giants are going to sweep the Phillies?

Listen stupid whle the Giants could Barely beat a injured ridden error prone Braves between SEPT 20 and OCT 3… the phillies & braves played 6 games in the last 12 days of the season. 3 in Philly 3 in Atlanta.

The Phillies CRUSHED the Braves taking 5 of 6 … and the last 3 games with mosly t bench players .

Mr. Mayor, we're talking real wrath of God type stuff... Fire & brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers & seas boiling! 40 years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. .The dead rising from the grave...Human sacrifice, dogs cats living together.... Mass Hysteria!

by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lighten up, Francis. :)

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

 well I apologize if I came across too strong.

 I DO respect the Giants..a lot. I think this will be a tough series . I think Ken Rosenthal of Fox sports who think Phillies in 5 … are the ones NOT taking the Giants seriously. Take a Look at ESPN basbeall analysts for more " predictions" like that.

I do. ( Phillies in 6 or 7) But ….. SF fans need to keep in Mind that Just Like the Giants were not the same team in april/ may as they are now… with all those players they added… the Phillies in april may were not nearly the same team they are now.

Thus many of these stats which convince Giants fans that they have some speciual abllity to Hit H2O are IMO meaningless .

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pardon my brethren Giants fans with their injudicious commentary. They don't get out much.

And by “out” I mean outside the cozy confines of a site they’re able to snark at will on.
It tends to condition one in the wrong way.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude…really?

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t mind him, MCC guys.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely not classy.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

My comment came across wrong. It was meant playfully, and if you stop

for a minute to review the history of the Giants since they arrived in San Francisco, you’ll discover that, sadly for us, the trophy case at ATT Park is filled with nothing but dust and the game ball that Dusty Baker prematurely handed to Russ Ortiz in that World Series game that didn’t really happen.

What does this have to do with anything?

This, namely, that for a guy like me who first attended a Giants baseball game at the age of 9 and have been blessed to see Mays, McCovey, Marichal, Perry, both Bonds’ and a bunch of others have great seasons, but not once in the forty plus years of my being a fan have they brought home the trophy; for this guy to troll another board with boasts of a sweep, or even a series victory, THAT would have to be at once arrogant, stupid and just plain pathetic.

I like to think of myself as none of these, and as such I can assure you that though I would be ecstatic at a Giants sweep, only a fool would believe it would happen, let alone predict it.

I am looking forward to a great series, and I’m really enjoying the writing on this board, so thanks to all for letting me hang around.

History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 16, 2010 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think VAwxman just completely misinterpreted your tone. No harm, no foul.

And we accept your Queensbury rules condition… except with respect to Cody Ross. I’m hoping someone punches him in the nuts.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 16, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or entirely rational ones, for that matter

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

It was an opportune typo for a conversation with a frankenstein.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not your taco, pal.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

As long as my miscues are artful.

I mean…I planned that….

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

That save was Benitezesque

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I did my job.”

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

The other comments were all reply fails.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

C. C. having a rough night, 3-0 in bot of 3rd

by The Fish on Oct 15, 2010 9:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

67 pitches and a balk. Huh.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Were it not for a lucky bounce and a bad slide, along with a couple other missed opportunities, the Rangers would have even more runs.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was that in response to stupid comments by horrible TBS announcers?

Because I thought the same thing

History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Are there other varieties of TBS comments?

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well.....no.

History is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there.
George Santayana

by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

If I were a Giants fan, I would be irritated with the coverage of the last NLDS game. It sure seemed to me that the TBS announcers were audibly excited about Braves baserunners, then rather ho-hum about the inevitable Bearded save.

Of course, that might be my irrational hated of the Braves bleeding through.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t it Dick Stockton who did the Braves-Giants series?

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes it was.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t a pro check his allegiance at the door of the booth, though?

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

The longtime Braves announcer who called the Phillies/Reds series certainly didn’t.

As crappy as the announcing was there, it was oddly satisfying to hear his soul get noticeably more crushed with each run the Phillies scored.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stockton isn’t a Braves announcer. He does work for Turner, but his gig these days is national NBA games, and before that he was a national NFL announcer.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stockton actually still works NFL games for Fox. He is buried on the depth chart now, but he still does games.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he ain’t what he was. In his prime, he was pretty good. Anyway, the point is that he has no particular connection to the Braves (or any Atlanta team). His employer may be HQ’d in Atlanta but that doesn’t really mean much. He himself doesn’t work there.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh, I knew he was with Turner, so I assumed Braves. At least he won’t say “errah” as much in football.

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That coverage stunk, as did Stockton.

Oh, yes – there were MANY time periods covered in that series, weren’t there?
As far as the Braves bias – hell, it’s TBS.

I thought Cody Ross getting questioned about Cox in the postgame spot interview was a bit much. To his credit Ross managed – but only just – to give a passable answer.

When they collared Bumgarner they knew there was even less history so they skipped the question altogether.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I particularly liked their call on Thames flying out.

“If they weren’t playing him to pull, he might have gone to the wall down the line”

Yeah, that’s why they were playing to pull. I’m so glad these guys are here to tell us the obvious… What’s next? Saying how Ryan Howard would have got an easy base hit to right field if they didn’t shift their infield to play him to pull and the 2B man fielded the ball in the outfield and threw him out?

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

CC seems to have settled in. Can Wilson make this lead hold up?

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe I spoke too soon!

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep. Looks like he settled in all right.

Did I just see Nolan Ryan standing next to G.W. Bush in the stands clapping after that two run double?

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just squeaked out there. That coulda ended badly.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, I’m cheering for Texas. I wanted to see CC implode some more. ;-)

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to say I was a little sad because I wanted the Phillies to be the only team that had made him implode. But then I remembered that he used to implode all the time when he was with the Indians.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s a good pitcher, but he’s no Lee, Timmah, or Doc.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Rangers are doing just fine without Vic to hit grand slams off him.

So far at least.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

With all that mass, an implosion and creation of a gravitational singularity is inevitable, once he burns through the hydrogen, helium, etc. You just can’t fuse iron and make it work.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s done, his line is 4.0 I.P, 6H, 5R, 4BB, 3K, 1HR.

Worse than any Doc start this decade I can remember.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, Jeter sucks now.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

[insert joke]

Just too much to work with there.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have you seen his girlfriend?

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

A-Rod?

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What kind of parents name a girl “Minka”? She’s just destined to be a stripper or star in a series of gonzo pornographic movies where her [CENSORED].

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, most strippers and porn stars use stage names.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? Wow…

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

How does he end up with such a hot chick?

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

’Cause he sucks, apparently.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well played.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ho ho ho ho ho.

Hah hah hah hah hah.

Yes I’m a dork for that reference. Sue me.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why is it “na na na na” instead of “nuh nuh nuh nuh”? I think the latter is more the way people sing it, but maybe that’s just the beer.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was an actual song. na na na na is correct.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, but I just don’t like the spelling. The original writer was just wrong, man. What the hell did he know about his own song? Couldn’t it be reasonably foreseen that once the song was in the stream of commerce that it would inevitably be belted out by drunken dockworkers named Vinnie after about 10 beers? I mean, really….

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, I can tell you that up here in Canada land they say it na not nuh. ;-)

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

North Midland dialect issues here in Central PA, perhaps.

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by RememberthePhitans on Oct 15, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve got relatives in the area. I can tell you there’s a big difference between the local accent up here, which is a bit different than the general “Canada West” dialect, and what they speak over there.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s that all aboot?

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Amusingly enough, I sometimes stretch my ou's into oo's

I’ve been asked many times if I’m Canadian.

I’m just weird I guess. My accent is decidedly Midwestern, but I also realize that that there’s no “r” in “wash”.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just looking at his BR page. He’s really not that good in the postseason (SSS!); 4.41 ERA over 67.1 innings. The Yankees seem to think he’s the second coming (not having met Heyward, I suppose), but he really just isn’t that good.

And they’re giving him $161M?!?

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Frenchy's being hit for.

Looks like the Rangers actually are trying to win.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Trying to win means not having Franceour on the field at all.

"I remember being three and I wanted to be a baseball player, that's all I ever really wanted to be. That and Spider Man." -Raul Ibanez

by Jose and the Contrarians on Oct 15, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or on the field, but in the other uniform.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know management is losing confidence in you when they pull you to play hitting match-up against Joba the Hutt.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

..and he’s out, after what seems like 17 throws to first.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 10:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Conundrum

What do I wear to the game tomorrow? The same ensemble I had on for the NHer or do I wear my “So Cuttered” shirt that I wore for Game 2 when the Phils had the comeback?

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, but I wore a long sleeve t-shirt and my 2008 WS Champs Sweatshirt for the first outfit. I guess I should go with that because whenever the hubby or I wear anything remotely Doc related for a game he pitches it ends badly.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I already mentioned my wardrobe contribution to watching the games at the end of the series.

Couldn’t find my alternate uniform blue cap with red lettering WS 2008 cap, nor my may-or-may-not-be-official WS Champs hat, so I went with my plain own adjustable red Phillies cap (That’s from New Era, so it’s official at least). Doc pitched the no-hitter that night, so that hat hasn’t left my head very much since then.

The sweater might start being added to the outfit if they make the WS, but until then my apartment’s already hot enough.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah hah. It’s your fault that they had to come back because you changed what you were wearing. =p

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go with the No Hitter ensemble… that is what I am wearing before and after work tomorrow.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

So much for before and after… no hours tomorrow = lots of baseball… :(

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

More fun...

http://m.mlb.com/phi/news/article/2010101415628952/

…where Doc says “more fun”, rather than “funner”.

by michaeljack on Oct 15, 2010 10:23 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

It’s funny how we can hate the Cowboys so much and simultaneously feel utterly indifferent toward the other teams in the same city. I’m sure the vast majority of Phillies fans are 100% behind the DFW team in this series. Of course, this state of affairs is easy to explain.

Of course, people might be able to develop a little animus if it turns out to be Phillies-Rangers in the WS, as the media will probably drum the Cowboys angle into our heads. It may take on the feel of a sort of proxy fight on behalf of the football teams. Our own Spanish Civil War.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

And, of course, a horse is a horse. Of course, of course.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

What if you don’t care about the Cowboys?

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s only because every time I watch the NFL I get pissed off at the tiny field, the four downs, the 40 second clock, and the three timeouts per half. ;-)

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I will say, however, that those who think the NFL moves more quickly than MLB…they are kidding themselves. TV timeouts, replays, challenges, etc, etc, it’s just as slow as any baseball game.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t get what drives it to the massive levels of fandom. It’s a similar situation to Nascar, with a level of fandom entirely separate from the quality of the product.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like football, I do, but those that say it’s a far superior product to baseball…well, I just don’t see it anymore. It’s got just as many lulls and with all the parity (especially this year), the product is not necessarily better on the field.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, it’s not Hockey, that’s the problem.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's simple (and I'll proceed to simplify it and unfairly generalize the argument)

One game has a lot of strategy and seeming lulls between pitches. The other one involves 22 people wearing armor running into each other.

The NASCAR comparison is apt – people watch the NFL for the crashes. They don’t have patience for low scoring sports like baseball.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The SCA should be more popular then.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I actually had someone tell me, “I hope it’s not another no hitter tomorrow—that was boring.” I said, respectfully, “What the F are you talking about?!”

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait, what? The Cowboys are pure EVIL!

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a Dolphins fan and I still hate the Cowboys.

Any team arrogant enough to call themselves “America’s Team” is worthy of scorn really, especially when they’re as loaded with utter douche nozzles like the Cowboys and Braves.

If it’s Phillies and Rangers in the WS, then at least I can be happy for Cliff Lee if they win. See also being happy for PtB if the Giants win the NLCS. I’m just glad the Braves are out of the playoffs in order to eliminate the only possible scenario that would force me to root for the Yankees.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I read something recently that said “I could only root for the Braves if they were playing the Cowboys and since that’s impossible…” Was it here? I don’t know. I agree wholeheartedly, however.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, that great line was from dajafi in his “Get your popcorn” article.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awesome sauce.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Late ‘90s were dark days, weren’t they? Two Braves-Yankees series and one Mets-Yankees series in the space of five years.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Although I guess I didn’t hate the Yankees yet in 1996.

by taco pal on Oct 15, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I’ve hated the Yankees since birth. In the blood.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

When it came to the Braves

I was a fan of whoever was playing them no matter who it was.

I think the only time I’ve ever situationally cheered for the Braves was when they were playing a team standing between the Phillies and first place while the Braves were out of contention themselves…. so like once or twice in 2007.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those were easy for me.

It was either a matter of “Fuck the Braves” or rooting for the Mets out of pity in recognition of the inevitable.

The Mets-Phillies “rivalry” as of late hadn’t yet begun at that point and has been so lopsided that my feelings towards them are back to pity.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

We hardly had time to get a proper hate on for the Mets (even though there were a few players that were easy to dislike) before they disappeared.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

All the same, when the Torre to NYM rumor started...

My only thought after the past couple years worth of NLCS play was “Oh please. Oh please. Oh please.”

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

IMO mocking Braves is a hobby. Mocking Mets/Yankees is someting close to religion. Just saying

"We are the borg. Resistance is futile."

by Borg_Queen on Oct 15, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Meanwhile, I’ve never had as much of a reason to hate the NY teams as I do the Braves.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it has more to do with the whole “Dallas Cowboys” (+ cheerleaders) as "America’s team. That was lame to begin with, I mean who knew just having pretty girls in “interesting” uniforms with pom-poms could rocket a USA football team into stardom???

"We are the borg. Resistance is futile."

by Borg_Queen on Oct 15, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

“America’s team” even

"We are the borg. Resistance is futile."

by Borg_Queen on Oct 15, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we are the same way with baseball hate (at least where Atlanta is concerned)… we hate the Braves, but are largely indifferent to the Falcons.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kinda like them because Matt Ryan is a local boy.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man

Texas is gonna BLOW this. Come on, get it together, boys!

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Me thinks so… I really did not want to see Mariano tonight.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

D Oliver is terrible

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMFG

That was terrible. Or turrible as Charles would say.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Yay for beer.

Hopefully I don’t have to drink myself happy when the NLCS starts.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me, too, since I’ll be at the game. I want to be able to walk out of the stadium.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s making another pitching change?!?

How many relievers does Texas have?

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently not too many good ones tonight…

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this makes five pitchers facing batter without recording an out.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

stellar pitching

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s like the Arizona Diamondbacks BP.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yep, that is absolutely right.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

And two of them only threw one pitch!

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And there’s still nobody out for fuck’s sake!

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Need a SO and DP.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, not what I wanted. What’s with the NYY and all their broken bat BS?

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Their bats release a special power when they are broken.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly each bat has Postseason Experience inside.

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steinbrenner magic.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

well at least that explains why it does not work when the Phillies bats break.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clearly, ESPN has been heard. Don’t listen to the voices!

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

BAH!

Remember Texeira’s broken bat HR last year off of Hamels? I wanted to take the shard of broken bat and cram it up his cram hole.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dr. doubleh, proctologist.

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a special exam and it’s given without benefit of anesthesia.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

TWSS

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sometimes you just gotta laugh.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m trying to figure out how many more beers it will take for me to laugh at this. =p

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bullpen Fail

When you absolutely, positively, fail to take advantage of a crumbling CC

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

  TX bullpen in ALDS vs Rays 5.23 era

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT AN OUT

I had almost forgotten what those were like.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

4 FEET FROM A 3 RUN HOMER

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I thought that one was out.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ME TOO and so did everyone in TX …. NYC metro area and 95% of all the folks watching

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

0 5

Number of pitchers used since last out

flip

0 0

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice work Granderson.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Batting around.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

A merciful end to the inning…

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

  kind of thought he might of been safe at 1st Base

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geebus. I think the Phils middle relief could have done better. Maybe not Baez.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Does it depress you

Knowing that the Rangers have a bullpen full of Baez’s?

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do they want another one?

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I don’t see how it would make things worse for them.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL… what do we want back for him? A bag of balls?

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

A Jobu doll and a used tin of chewing tobacco will suffice I think.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Defense really didn’t help things, either. Lots of bobbled balls in the OF.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed… it was one of those games where the team could not get out of its own way.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes. Because no bullpen should be made up of Baez and the photocopies.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

IDK…. they have had some pretty LOL moments (I seem to remember a Twins game and a Dodgers game that were pretty ugly)

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm really glad for the Liberty Mutual commercial, without which I'd never have known to be nice to others.

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Enter Sandman

Does Rivera still trot out to this? Not that I care, but it used to be a decent enough song.

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

As far as I know. He won’t be coming out just yet, though. It’s Kerry Wood.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Musta cooled off after that layoff.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was shaky in two of his appearances in the ALDS.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the Rangers have been keeping the Sandman up nights— he is 0-2 against them this year.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

SSS.

I hate to say it, but Mo is the real deal.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I understand that he is— but if you are the team that has caused him to blow two saves… you have to feel a little bit better than if he has slammed the door on you every time you have seen him.

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

MR has Blown 3 saves in sept...

   should of been charged with 4th… and has … I think 6 Blown saves— MORE than Brad Lidge this season

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

wow whata disaster… i thought that only happened to werth

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

and Ben Fran… and Victorino

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

fucking ahole

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL baserunning

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

 the ones weakness the NYY has is throwing guys out stealing 2nd and 3rd… to get Picked off like that in the 8th wow…

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that was some rather awful base-running.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

 dont forget the thrown out at home in the bottom of the 1st inning with bases loaded

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bloody hell, Texas.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

So yeah, Giants fans...

One of our teams is going to be playing the Yankees. =p

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, Cliff Lee hasn’t pitched yet. He’ll get some winz.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I saw that act in last year’s WS. The difference is that he’s starting game 3 this time around, so as much as I’d like to hope he gets “winz”, I think it might be the singular form of the word.

Prove me wrong, Rangers… you bloody teases.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sir, are no Chase Utley.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Clutch-less.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Continuous variable transmission

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Definitely not (although Utley has done some hair brained things on the basepaths).

by dannijd on Oct 15, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

i like how this thread has turned into ALCS thread lol

by The Fish on Oct 15, 2010 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Eh, that happens with the most recent thread when we wants baseball.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, not like it’s worth it’s own thread..

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Certainly not with these most recent developments.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hijacked!

By the Loose Conflagration of Vaguely Interested Fanbases.

We enjoy the failures of teams from NY.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Conflagration

You, sir, are en fuego.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s a cleansing flame that shall smite the infidels!

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I liked it better when CC pitched for a largely impotent offense. Those were the days. /le sigh

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

But he’s got Winz!

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Holland FTW??

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks for the chat, Phillies Pholks. Time to eat here in the Bay Area.

I’m taking my wife out to eat some Italian food and enjoy the evening. Peace to you all.

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by Sabean's_Folly on Oct 15, 2010 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Enjoy some Italian wine, and see you tomorrow in some form or other.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m drinking a Malbec right now. Delish. WIsh I could sneak it into the park tomorrow.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I used to have these fake binoculars that were actually a sekrit flask.

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

"...some form or other"

How about this one?

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry, but WTF IS THAT?!?

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some kind of San Franciscan Burger. It clearly won the between-inning concession menu race by hip-checking the Rice A Roni and cutting off the Sourdough Bread.

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

That, my phriends, is Krazy Krab.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crawled off of Burrell onto the field, eh?

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Looks like CC Sabathia

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by WholeCamels on Oct 15, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

He’s moving a bit faster, though.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Less jiggle of fat

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

More dignity

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by WholeCamels on Oct 15, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hands are about the same size, though.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Head’s a little small

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s the blue thing that appears briefly at the top of the head?

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

A hat?

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umbilical stub.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's the dark secret in the Giants mascot closet.

Now, the one that gets the good p.r. is Lou Seal.

That is, until they see this…

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 15, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s not right. Will someone think of the CHILDREN?

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perhaps that’s how it…discharges its children…

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by bandwagonesque on Oct 16, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh my LAWD. I’m comin’, Elizabeth!

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by doubleh on Oct 16, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

That… should not have children. Think of the rest of the children.

by Phrozen on Oct 16, 2010 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, but how little we know thee.

And by ‘we’, I mean ‘I’.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Enjoy the meal!

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Our old buddy

Greg Golson is in as a DR.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

oooohh a lead off single in the 9th off of MR

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:50 PM EDT reply actions  

maybe TX has not lost heart Just yet

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bigfoot sighting!

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ballsy play to bunt with two strikes.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice play by NYY 1st B to stretch like that to get the throw

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think that was the 2B actually… Teixiera was the one who fielded the bunt.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry guys

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by WholeCamels on Oct 15, 2010 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Whatevs. We just hijack stuff if we need it. It’s all good.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dunno if it’ll be necessary aside from off-days.

by RaptorLC on Oct 15, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

We may want it tomorrow anyway— they play first, and hijacking this thread with another game is a little ridiculous.

by dannijd on Oct 16, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

We likes the base balls! All is good.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

No problemo. Hijacking this thread was not really that big of a deal for us.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 15, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This one only got jacked as everyone knows what’s up with the pitching.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lengthry strikeout. It would have been cool if Young could have been the hero against El Rivierio.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I would have been cool with Hamilton, but alas, it was not to be.

by Shazbot on Oct 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

TX is Pitiful … this wilson guy is a good #2 pitcher and they wasted it

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by VAwxman on Oct 15, 2010 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

they wasted a bad start by CC

by The Fish on Oct 15, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Those are almost a dime a dozen in the postseason.

by Phrozen on Oct 15, 2010 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stinky.

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by doubleh on Oct 15, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

All bat and no cattle.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 15, 2010 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Boooooo! Here’s hoping another team in Texas loses this weekend as well.

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by doubleh on Oct 16, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Amen… although that would involve Brett Favre winning, and I am not sure how much I can enjoy that.

by dannijd on Oct 16, 2010 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ol’ shrivel peepee can have his one win of the season. He’s got tendonitis, Lord knows how many games he’ll play this season.

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by doubleh on Oct 16, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

True… I just don’t like him… but I hate the cowboys (I think that was in the baby bottle)

by dannijd on Oct 16, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

“The Yankees show their championship mettle” -Announcer. /barfs

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by doubleh on Oct 16, 2010 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

I am going to have to watch this series on mute too, I see.

by dannijd on Oct 16, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Texas has STILL not yet won ANY paalyoff game at home

hard to believe harry

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by VAwxman on Oct 16, 2010 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Ian Kinsler—you are my goat of the game. You and the entire Rags BP.

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by doubleh on Oct 16, 2010 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

  NYY worsr in MLB in throwing out baserunners…. but still ….wood cant find the plate … walks Kinsler on 4 pitches with NO outs ….

Mr. Mayor, we're talking real wrath of God type stuff... Fire & brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers & seas boiling! 40 years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes. .The dead rising from the grave...Human sacrifice, dogs cats living together.... Mass Hysteria!

by VAwxman on Oct 16, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Could you perhaps translate that into English please? :)

by RaptorLC on Oct 16, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

“I wish the Yankees spontaneously combusted and their ashes poisoned the NYC municipal water supply. Twice.”

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 16, 2010 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I endorse this train of thought.

Can the poison take out Atlanta as well?

by RaptorLC on Oct 16, 2010 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

They’re Coxless for the most part, so I wouldn’t expect a lot of vigor or resistance.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 16, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is getting ridiculous

In at least 3 out of the 4 games so far this postseason the Yankees have been trailing going into the 6th inning and have won them all. Hopefully this luck BABIP craziness evens out for them. I would love to see a good alcs.

by PhilsForever on Oct 16, 2010 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

It isn’t BABIP, it’s Yankee magic and the Yankee aura!

by taco pal on Oct 16, 2010 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

hehe

right, of course…my bad

by PhilsForever on Oct 16, 2010 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Winners win! That’s how you know they’re winners!

by taco pal on Oct 16, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Aren’t there ghosts of former glory in their stadium? Maybe they brought them on the road.

"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)

by bandwagonesque on Oct 16, 2010 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Why do you think Roy Halladay has 4 pitches. You have to constantly kept that line up off balance. Plus they have Poseda Swisher, Granderson, Texeria, R. Pena, Berkman who all switch hit so once they get into into your bullpen it LOOGY hell. Outside of Big Truck our middle relief, long relief and lefty specialists would be to this Yankees line-up like the house that leaves a out basketf of BlowPops for Halloween with a sign that says, " please only take one."

by j reed on Oct 16, 2010 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Granderson isn’t a switch hitter.

by taco pal on Oct 16, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm confused...

When did Richard Pryor start managing the Rangers?

If lovin' Chooch is wrong...I don't wanna be right!

by DirtyWaters on Oct 16, 2010 2:16 AM EDT reply actions  

oh no

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 16, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Racism fail.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 16, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just go with the "recreational substances" mindset. It's more all - inclusive.

Dirty, please spell my name correctly on the check.

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 16, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe..

If I had said some other actor that looks nothing like Ron Washington who snorts coke…than maybe that would make more sense for you Fuqua…huh? He looks like Richard Pryor and they both did coke …how exactly is that racist? It is a frickin joke

If lovin' Chooch is wrong...I don't wanna be right!

by DirtyWaters on Oct 16, 2010 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hunter Pence

Hunter Pence on ESPN First Take picked the Giants to upset the Phillies. While I don’t think it would be impossible for the Giants to upset the Phillies, it is interesting to me that the guy that absolutely owns the Phillies along with his entire team, a team the Phillies seemingly can never beat, would pick against them. I might too if they were playing the Astros.

by PhilsForever on Oct 16, 2010 11:34 AM EDT reply actions  

It actually makes sense if you think about it- they can beat the Phillies, but they can’t beat the Giants, ergo the Giants should slaughter the Phillies.

by dannijd on Oct 16, 2010 12:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

damn it

i cannot wait for the game to start and Halladay to throw a 10 inning of no hitter ball

by elpikiman on Oct 16, 2010 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Send him out there RIGHT NOW!

By the time the Giants actually send a batter to the plate he can have pitched thousands of innings of no – hit ball!

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by victor frankenstein on Oct 16, 2010 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really really really don’t want a 10-inning no-hitter. I’d much prefer a 9-inning no-hitter. Less stress. Less drinking.

by Phrozen on Oct 16, 2010 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey guys

Cheers to a good series. May the best team win. :]

Chris Andersen could be in a porno with his 'stache. Too bad he still wouldn't know how to box out.
BTSC proud ENFORCER!!
"No one on this team is Troy Polamalu. When God made him, he touched him a couple of extra times." -Safety Ryan Clark-

by Mini Hulk on Oct 16, 2010 4:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Love your blog guys

I have been chomping at the bit to see this game today since 25 year ago. No but really, it was a LOOOOOONG week.

If this game scores more than 1 run in 14 innings, you will have me surprised.

It's better to be lucky than good.

by Myemail21479 on Oct 16, 2010 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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Tim approves.

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