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C'mon Son: Iron Pigs 11, Braves 5

In a game with major playoff implications for the Phillies, Charlie Manuel inexplicably sent Kyle Kendrick to the mound and fielded a lineup that included Greg Dobbs.

Hold on, let me try again.

In a game with playoff implications for the Braves, Eternal Manager Bobby Cox's team was inexplicably bludgeoned to a pulp by a lineup that included Greg Dobbs and was mostly shut down for 5 innings by a painfully mediocre Kyle Kendrick.
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We'll go with bullets for this one:

-This game was actually close until the top of the 6th when Rollins, who had had a few pretty discouraging ABs earlier in the game, came up with the bases loaded and two outs and launched reliever Mike Dunn's first pitch over the left field wall for a grand slam. Whoa. With the score 7-2, Charlie was able to go to the bench.

-Immediately prior to Rollins' grand slam, Domonic Brown worked perhaps his best plate appearance as a Phillie against the always tough Peter Moylan, fouling off a few tough pitches and watching a few more for the bases-loaded walk to make the score 3-2.

-Kendrick was very much Kendrick in this game: 5 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 3 BB, 2 K, 1827391 line drives, W.

-OFB (Old Filthy Bastardo) looked realllly good in one inning of work as he struck out the side around a few singles. He was spotting the fastball and the slider looked crisp. He could certainly come in handy in the NLDS against one Joey Votto.

-Carlos Ruiz went 3/5 to lift his average above .300 and Greg Dobbs had 2 hits (really!).

-The score was 11-2 in the bottom of the 9th when Mike Zagurski loaded the bases with two outs and surrendered a bases-clearing double to Derek Lee. David Herndon came on and got the last out, but not before throwing like 7 straight balls and causing Charlie Manuel to get Madson up in the pen.

-The Braves actually managed to get people to come to this game! No word yet on how much they were paid.

-The Braves are a pretty sure bet to get the wild card at this point, but as of posting, the Padres (who need a sweep) are up 6-1 against the Giants.

Tomorrow Vance Worley gets the start against Tommy Hanson on national TV. Should be exciting for the kid.

Fangraph, just because:

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via www.fangraphs.com

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Okay, that headline is hilarious. I would apologize to my neighbors for waking them up with my hysterical laughter, but it’s only 10:30 on a Friday night and no one around me is going to sleep through the Morbid Angel album I’m currently blasting. :)

by RaptorLC on Oct 2, 2010 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Just a couple bullet point respondy thingies

-Carlos Ruiz went 3/5 to lift his average above .300 and Greg Dobbs had 2 hits (really!).

Translation: Choochiro was his usual awesome self, and Aquaman finally produced twice when the game became a meaningless blowout.

-The Braves actually managed to get people to come to this game! No word yet on how much they were paid.

Final attendance of the game – 50,000. Final attendance after all the Braves fans left the stadium once the game became a joke – 30,000?

by RaptorLC on Oct 2, 2010 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

And Greg Dobbs got his season average up to (but not over) the Mendoza line: .200. I don’t think it does anyone any good to be rooting against him. Either Charlie will put him on the postseason roster or he won’t. Either way I think it’s better for Dobbs to end the season on a strong note.

by phillyinportland on Oct 2, 2010 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I have actually been feeling sympathy for Dobbs. He’s struggling, he knows it and it’s gotta be as upsetting to him as it is aggravating for us to watch, but it’s not for lack of trying. And it’s definitely not his fault that he’s on the roster—it’s not like he finagled his way onto the team and is now carrying out his secret goal of undermining us.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2010 2:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

love the title.

While Dobbs did get a couple garbage time hits, he also fanned thrice in the early goings. Ugh. Waste.of.a.roster.spot.

by Bilzo on Oct 2, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLBraves

First, there was this.

Then, there was that.

And now, we have a third memorable blooper that we can always look back and laugh about.

Thanks for the memories, Braves!

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

MADSON GOT UP?!?!

KILL CHARLIE

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I’m serious about this, by the way. There is zero justification for getting Madson up tonight, even if he only threw a single pitch in the bullpen. None.

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it was pretty ferkockt.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m not a pitching expert, but logic would suggest that the added stress of throwing one more pitch is about a million percent greater when you’re going from 0 to 1 than any other jump. It’s like the difference between fixed costs and variable costs in econ. Once you get him to throw that first pitch, you’ve “used” him.

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

  The amount of stress you suggest would be accompanied by fatigue proportional to the stress. Off the top of my head, powerlifting and Olympic style weightlifting are done to a that level of muscle failure (1 lift per attempt) and even they do do several lifts in a competition. Shot put, hammer throw, discus are other athletic activities that might apply here as well.

by j reed on Oct 2, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope. disagree completely.

If you’ve ever “warmed up”, you know the first five or ten tosses are just to get your arm loosened. If you hurt something then, you’re not doing it right. It’s the next 10-15 once he starts letting loose that are bad.

by Bilzo on Oct 2, 2010 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fangraph looks like something from the Red Bull Flugtag.

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

So long as we are away, it is the best way for it to look!

by dannijd on Oct 2, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to write a funny caption

But I already have a used Mike Zagurski jock strap.
I don’t want to talk about it.

by ajay on Oct 2, 2010 1:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Write one anyways!

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2010 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Okay

BC: “I can’t believe I paid people to come to this game…”

by ajay on Oct 2, 2010 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caption: “I don’t know…it’s actually kind of pleasant to go softly into that good night.”

OR

In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I’ve been turning over in my mind ever since. “Whenever you feel like criticizing anyone,” he told me, “just remember that all the people in this world haven’t had the advantages that you’ve had.”

OR

Bobby Cox considers whether Marx’s imagining of the dollar-form, as a floating and illusionary signifier of supra-use value holds water. Not shown: baseball, grand slams.

PS: Badass Gramsci quote, FM.

by Trev223 on Oct 2, 2010 1:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Oh man. These are some great ones. And a tip of the cap to you for recognizing the Gramsci quote, sir.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2010 1:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gramsci said “C’mon Son”?

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Indeed. When he was in prison in Bari, Gramsci was reported to have uttered “C’mon son” to a fascist guard who spilled his daily portion of gruel.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

I presume he then also told the guard to “get the f*ck outta here with that bull-s**t.”

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Roughly translated from Italian, yes, that is what he said.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2010 2:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wife is in trouble tonight.

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 1:30 AM EDT reply actions  

B*tch better not say anything tonight

by phatj on Oct 2, 2010 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you, that’s an excellent refinement.

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, wonder when they put the giant screen up in center field?

by Shazbot on Oct 2, 2010 1:47 AM EDT reply actions  

Well at least I’m not in a Cubs’ uniform.

by j reed on Oct 2, 2010 2:09 AM EDT reply actions  

The Braves are a pretty sure bet to get the wild card at this point, but as of posting, the Padres (who need a sweep) are up 6-1 against the Giants.

Actually they only need a sweep if the Phils don’t sweep the Braves

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 2:10 AM EDT reply actions  

To win the division, that is. If the Padres split the last two and Phils sweep, then the Giants will win the West, and the Padres and Braves will play a one-game playoff to determine whether we get the Padres or the Reds.

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 2:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Caption: “Only two more #$%& games and I won't have to see that #$%& Ryan Howard ever again. Unless we meet in the #@$%& playoffs, then we’re screwed.”

by phillyinportland on Oct 2, 2010 2:19 AM EDT reply actions  

phillies DS opponent matrix

Phillies win 2, Padres win 2 —> Phillies play Giants
Phillies win 2, Padres split —> Phillies play Reds or Padres
Phillies win 2, Giants win 2 —> Phillies play Reds

Phillies split, Padres win 2 —> Phillies play Reds, Padres, or Giants
Phillies split, Padres split —> Phillies play Reds
Phillies split, Giants win 2 —> Phillies play Reds

Phillies lose 2, Padres win 2 —> Phillies play Reds
Phillies lose 2, Padres split —> Phillies play Reds
Phillies lose 2, Giants win 2 —> Phillies play Reds

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 2:28 AM EDT reply actions  

If you assume every game is 50/50, then

Reds – 13/16
Padres – 3/32
Giants – 3/32

If my math is right.

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Don’t we have to consider the Reds in the case that (A) Atlanta wins the WC and (B) both the West winner and the Reds finish with 91 wins? How do Reds and Giants/Padres work out on a head to head to determine who faces the Phils?

by michaeljack on Oct 2, 2010 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Reds lose tiebreakers

Reds cannot finish ahead of either team with regular season record best of 91-71, and both teams had winning records against the Reds head-to-head.

by phillyinportland on Oct 2, 2010 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

WTF kinda name is Melky anyway.

by j reed on Oct 2, 2010 2:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Maybe it’s a diminutive for Melchior.

by essman on Oct 3, 2010 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

No mention of Bastardo? Despite the 2H, the 3Ks, one in which he went 0-2 on Glaus with the two sliders, shut up alot of the LOOGY demons that have been nagging me while we wait for October baseball.

by j reed on Oct 2, 2010 2:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Whoops

Just saw it as I scrolled up the page.

by j reed on Oct 2, 2010 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you find the coverage map for today’s game you would be hard pressed to call it a national broadcast with a straight face.

by EastFallowfield on Oct 2, 2010 5:59 AM EDT reply actions  

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What in the Sam hill (thank you WC), were the first 100 or so comments doing in the game thread?

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Oct 2, 2010 11:25 AM EDT reply actions  

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Fucking Jeff Francoeur

by j reed on Oct 2, 2010 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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Holy Freaking Cow… P != NP??

by essman on Oct 3, 2010 11:29 AM EDT reply actions  

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