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No Clinch For You! Phillies 7, Braves 0

Tommy Hanson against Vance Worley.  A team with a playoff spot on the line against a team that locked one up games ago.  A team playing in front of its largest home audience in its stadium's history against a team playing its regulars just so they don't get rusty.  This one's outcome was easy to predict before the first pitch was thrown.

But baseball games have to be played, not just predicted.  And this one just proved the point even more.  The Phillies got six hits off Hanson but left 8 men on base, as he blanked them through 5 innings.  Worley was even better.  He held the Braves to 1 hit and 2 walks over the same 5 innings.  With an inning of relief from Jonny Venters and Antonio Bastardo, the game was scoreless through 6.

Then the Braves fell apart, again with an assist from poor fielding by Brooks Conrad.  The Phillies batted around plus one in the seventh, scoring 4 runs.  It was all small ball:  three singles, three walks, one wild pitch, one stolen base, and one error.  Another small ball run in the 8th made it 5-0, and two more in the 9th, with the first extra-base hit involved in the scoring, a double from Wilson Valdez, sealed it for the Phillies, as Danys Baez, Ryan Madson, and Jose Contreras were close to perfect in relief.

On a day the team and its fans thanked Bobby Cox, the schedule was kind to the Braves.  But, they turned a gimme into a gift for the Phillies.  With a Padres win today, the season is on the line for the Padres, Giants, and Braves tomorrow.

The Braves get the pleasure of playing for the postseason against Cole Hamels and Roy Oswalt (and various other relievers).  The Phillies square off against Tim Hudson.

Maybe dreams can come true.

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via www.fangraphs.com

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I didn’t see the game, but I notice the four relievers threw 47 pitches in 4 innings while striking out 4 and giving up 2 hits. This is very good pitching.

by essman on Oct 2, 2010 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s sort of delicious this evil feeling. 14 years. 14 years! Taste the pain, Braves fans!

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 2, 2010 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Charlie’s done a great job keeping everyone sharp for the coming playoffs. Here’s the very best scenario for the Phils:

Braves win tomorrow (say, 1-0). Padres win tomorrow. Padres then have to play the Giants on Monday for the NL West crown. The loser plays the Braves on Tuesday for the Wild Card.

How is this good for the Phils? The NL West playoff burns a top-line starter for both the Pads and Jints (because both know it’s win and in, lose and play again). The Wild Card burns a top-line starter for the loser of the NL West playoff and the Braves.

So, you hope that the winner of the wild card is the NL West team, who will have burned through two top-line starters, would have to play three games in three days, and not have a top-line starter available for the opener.

Brien

by Brien Martin on Oct 2, 2010 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Agreed.

If the Padres win and Braves lose, the Padres and Giants are tied. Do they have a playoff game to see who wins the West v. the Wild Card or are there tiebreakers that determine that?

by David S. Cohen on Oct 2, 2010 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’d go to tiebreakers, which the Padres would win. That would mean the Giants in the WC.

by RaptorLC on Oct 2, 2010 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Yahoo

Sunday NL scenarios

Phillies at Braves, 1:35 ET; Padres at Giants, 4:05 ET

• Braves win, Giants win – NL West: Giants, Wild card: Braves, Out: Padres
• Braves win, Padres win – NL West: Giants at Padres on Monday, Wild card: Loser at Braves on Tuesday
• Braves lose, Giants win – NL West: Giants, Wild card: Padres at Braves on Monday
• Braves lose, Padres win – NL West: Padres, Wild card: Giants, Out: Braves

by essman on Oct 2, 2010 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

No playoff game

Tiebreaker is regular season record. Padres have that sewn up against the Giants, so they would be the #2 seed, and the Giants would be the Wild Card, playing vs. the Phillies. After losing three straight at home to end the season. But they would have Lincecum for the first game in Philadelphia.

by phillyinportland on Oct 2, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

That scenario — Padres win, Braves lose, Giants get to save Lincecum to throw vs. Phils — is the only one that I don’t want to see. Not to say anything ill of Bronson Arroyo or Clayton Richard/Chris Young, but I’d certainly rather see them than last year’s Cy winner. Or, alternatively, if the Phils do play San Fran, I’d obviously like the Giants to have to burn Timmah in a playoff on Monday.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 2, 2010 9:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Which is exactly why they are saving him, right?

God, I would love a game 163 and possible another play-in game. Don’t even care if Braves get in at this point.

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 2, 2010 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

absolutely. it sucks the phils/braves game wouldn’t end after the pads game unless there were a crazy rain delay. I would love to see the phils roll over, forcing a 2 game playoff if they knew the pads had won already.

"My grandmom's favorite grandson, ask my grandmom" --Rone

by layout ultimate on Oct 2, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would still want them to beat the Braves just to knock them out.

by taco pal on Oct 2, 2010 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you on this. As much as I trust the Phillies pitching I’d rather not see them at risk of trailing in the series after one game.

by phillyinportland on Oct 2, 2010 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I just noticed that MLB.com’s standings count the three Toronto games as home games. Wasn’t it MLB’s idea to consider them away games?

by essman on Oct 2, 2010 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Counting them wound up as a weird amalgam- statistics (home-road splits, etc. Arecalculated with them as home games for the Phillies because the games were played in the Phillies home park. Attendance though went toward the Jays counts for the year.

by dannijd on Oct 2, 2010 10:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

That is odd.

I remember Sean Forman, owner of baseball-reference.com, saying that it would take him months to figure out how to account for those numbers.

by phatj on Oct 2, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Phils clinching the other day meant that I didn’t have to worry about following any of the games this weekend, and I fully planned to take advantage of that while I was away. But the chance of the Braves undergoing a 2007-Mets-esque collapse has made it hard for me to just ignore what’s going on; and yup, I’ve caught parts of the last two games on the radio.

Should be a fascinating day of baseball tomorrow. The Padres are to be commended, too, for making sure the Phils’ wins haven’t been for nothing.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 2, 2010 9:08 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Tomorrow is gonna be an exciting day for sports.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 2, 2010 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh yeah.

That's great Bobby, but we don't have Dance Dance Revolution, so... you're dumb.

by alcatraz0109 on Oct 2, 2010 9:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Jesus, all the crazy baseball permutations AND Eagles- Redskins. And I can barely get interested in football this time of year.

by phatj on Oct 2, 2010 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you there. I’m really excited for tomorrow

by FearTheTurtIe on Oct 3, 2010 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like SD should send Cholly & Co a fruit basket. /sarcasm

Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.

by doubleh on Oct 2, 2010 9:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Fruit baskets are OK but I think send a Harry& David’s tower of chocolate (or some variation). Just saying

"We are the borg. Resistance is futile."

by Borg_Queen on Oct 2, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

No— Charlie is on Nutra-System- the Fruit Basket is perfect!

by dannijd on Oct 2, 2010 10:51 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

First time for three-way tie

If the Padres and Braves win tomorrow they will play a two-round playoff for the first time. I was reminded of the way the 1995 season ended, and I believe the rule that year was different. It was the first year of the wild card, and I believe the rule then was if two division teams tied for the lead and the other wild card leader had the same record at the end of the regular season, then the two tied teams played for the division title and the other wild card leader got in ahead of the loser of the playoff. Not totally fair, but it did avoid that second playoff game coming on top of a whole new round of playoffs that year.

The situation in 1995 was a neck and neck race between the Mariners and the Angels. The Yankees were way behind the Red Sox but thanks to a fantastic finish were moving up on the AL West leaders. Going into the last day, the three teams could have finished with identical records, just like this year. But the Yankees won and ended up one game ahead. They became the wild card team and since then have made the playoffs every year but one. Does anyone else remember thinking that if there had been a tie the AL West loser would have been done?

by phillyinportland on Oct 2, 2010 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Everyone in this thread LACKS CLASS.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Pot/kettle. If I could hit you with a battery from here, I would.

by PhillyFriar on Oct 3, 2010 12:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

This Phillies fan said something mean about Bobby Cox. He lacks class.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 1:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

What happened? I wrote a whole long post decrying the term “classy” and it got cut down to this.

Anyways, what I said was that I made the stupid decision of reading their blog over there and I am amazed by how often they use the friggin’ term “classy.”

Essentially, someone who doesn’t behave in a way that conforms with their view of how someone should act is “classless,” I think. Though no one has ever given me an adequate definition of the term as they apply it, much less a reason for why someone should aspire to be such a thing.

Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will.

by FuquaManuel on Oct 3, 2010 1:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kendrick....

is he the 4th guy in your roation for playoffs or will be Blanton?

by Shoert on Oct 3, 2010 1:18 AM EDT reply actions  

“will it be Blanton?”.sorry for the typo

by Shoert on Oct 3, 2010 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

The 4th guy in the Phillies rotation is Joe Blanton.

Now that's what I call high quality H2O!

by Justin F. on Oct 3, 2010 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Friendly Giants fan here

Came by first off, nice job Roy Halladay. I always said he’d throw a Perfecto if he went to the NL. Also, CG clinch? Seriously, who else but Halladay in this day and age.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WIN TOMORROW!

Also, Cole Hamels.

"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless

by Gloff on Oct 3, 2010 2:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Was Supposed to be

Came by to say nice job….. Then I forgot to delete came by after i wrote first off

Fail…

"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless

by Gloff on Oct 3, 2010 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

we’re hoping for the same. I think SFO is mot Phils fans backup team, in the event that our playoff run doesn’t last too long.

by Bilzo on Oct 3, 2010 8:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Part of me wants the cluster-eff that a three way tie would bring. But the other part of me wants to complete the utter and complete degradation and destruction of the Braves that they’ve already started this weekend.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Plus many of us love MCC. (This post is one of the all-time great one-act plays.)

by essman on Oct 3, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

MCC sometimes crosses the line from blog to performance art installation, which I say with enormous respect.

http://www.thegoodphight.com

by WholeCamels on Oct 3, 2010 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Everytime I go on that site something bad happens to the puter.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

1000+ post threads will do that.

by phatj on Oct 3, 2010 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Try Linux

I have zero issues on copious amounts of comments on an old dell B110

Anyhow, thanks for the good wishes.

"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless

by Gloff on Oct 3, 2010 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No not like that, more like I have go to into safe mode and totally clean out my temp. files.

by j reed on Oct 3, 2010 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is true

Also, Awesome.

"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless

by Gloff on Oct 3, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grant is a seriously funny guy.

"Yo Paul, if it hurts, don't swing." - Mike Krukow
Zito: 7 Yrs $126 Million
6 Pack of beer and a month of TV: $70
Sitting down to watch Zito Strike out Helton looking on a Curve four times: Priceless

by Gloff on Oct 3, 2010 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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