Some Phillies Links For You, October 20, 2010: A Little Trouble, Overreaction, Helpful Suggestions
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2010 8:45 AM EDT
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PrintPhillies must find bats, or go the way of the Yankees
Wait, the Yankees were eliminated?
Manuel phones it in for falling Phillies - Gregg Doyel
Among the worst things I've ever read.
Lee's performance boosts his value as free agent
Really. That said, I both fear and gleefully look forward to Cliff Lee pwning fools in the World Series, and the meltdowns it would cause in various parts of the Internets.
Brewers broadcaster Uecker undergoes second heart surgery
Good luck, Bob.
McCaffery: Charlie needs to shake up Phillies lineup now
If they're not hitting, it doesn't matter where you stick them in the lineup. The runs won't score.
'Anti-Bonds' Ross proving to be Mr. Clutch - NYPOST.com
Seethe...
Police: Man who rushed Yankee Stadium field went after A-Rod
Yikes. At least our fans who rush the field are just punks and idiots, not genuine psychopaths.
Rich Hofmann: Advice to Phillies: Give Ibanez night off, move Rollins back to leadoff
Agree with Part One; Indifferent as to Part Two.
Phillies prospects Singleton, Savery make significant moves
Singleton to left field, Savery to first base (which we already kinda knew about). Worth following.
With Mike Quade named as Chicago Cubs manager, Joe Girardi loses some leverage with Yankees
For some reason this headline makes me think of that famous "New Yorker" cover depicting the world as seen from Manhattan.
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From the NYPOST.com piece:
Ross is not normal now. He’s in that magical hitting zone.
So that’s it. How do the Phillies get to that zone? Are there
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
Block quote fail.
Are there wizards on the Phillies’ staff?
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Oct 20, 2010 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
It’s just an acknowledgment that he’s a hot-hitting little elf. He’s magically delicious!
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Shouldn’t he be baking cookies in a tree or something? More Soft Batch, fewer RBIs!
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Oct 20, 2010 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions
Nice!
In truth, the Post article does note Ross crediting a recent change in his stance and approach. That pitch he hit yesterday was quality. You have to (if begrudgingly) give the elf his props.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Oct 20, 2010 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
The Giants Success Revealed
This is not shopped.
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
No way that’s not shopped.
Context??
(No pot jokes from Phillies fans, please. Let’s be CLASSY)
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Oct 20, 2010 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Pot Jokes are classy
Meth jokes are not
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiKC_dInCBk
Obviously any links in the above post are probably NSFW
The baseball gods do not always punish the wicked but they will not just allow people to spit in their faces -- Joe Posnanski
I wish I would stop cheating. fuck. this is jctgamer's fault -- jponry
Awesome, thanks. Lincecum the Red, I suppose, last of the Istari. Feared more for his palantir than his staff.
"Ninety percent of this game is half mental" - Yogi Berra (SI, May 14, 1979)
by bandwagonesque on Oct 20, 2010 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously, how is Ibanez still in this lineup. Francisco needs to play tonight especially against a lefty. This lineup is awful.
This is the same lineup that was 7th in all of MLB in runs scored, including DH-using AL teams. The Phillies were second in runs scored in the NL behind only CIN.
It could be that they have run into the best pitching team in all of MLB in the SFG who had an ERA+ of 121 this year.
This lineup is far from awful. Talk to Seattle or Pittsburgh fans about “awful”.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Ok let me rephrase. This lineup has been awful since the start of the playoffs. Can you dispute that? They were so good in September, what the hell happened? The numbers from the regular season DON’T MATTER ANYMORE. I honestly think that taking the last 3 games off against the Braves for most of the starters was a bad idea, especially when you wind up in a quick series against the Reds. These guys that were in such great rhythm going into the last week of the season have totally lost it.
They were so good in September, what the hell happened?
They all were infected with ebola?
What happened during Slumpmas?
In a 162 game season, the better teams usually percolate to the top of the standings. In the playoffs, there’s just not enough time.
Incidentally, the combined OPS+ and ERA+ of the NLCS teams (this is meaningless but fun, as you will see):
Phillies: 99 + 110 = 209
Giants: 95 + 121 = 216
Regardless of the statistical heresy I have just committed, it demonstrates (at least the OPS+ and ERA+ numbers standing alone) that each team is good and that there is no clear reason why the Phillies should obviously win.
What the hell happened to the Phillies bats? The Giants’ pitching and defense happened.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
each team is good and that there is no clear reason why the Phillies should obviously win.
I’ve been saying this around several of my friends since before the series even started. Just because the Phillies have the strongest top 3 pitchers doesn’t mean a darn thing. Just because the offense was ridiculously prolific in times past doesn’t mean a darn thing. Many people tabbed the Phillies as a lock to get to the World Series and even as a favorite to win. Don’t count your chickens before they hatch. My father-in-law’s eyes nearly popped out of his head when I said that last week. The Giants are a good team. Really.
Thanks for some numbers.
Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 20, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
They ran into better pitching than what they had been seeing. While the Reds pitching staff is no where near the level of the Giants, they are better pitchers than what the Nationals have/ the bottom half of the Braves rotation/ the Marlins/ the Mets (although they did not look too good offensively against the Mets if memory serves). I doubt that rust is really a factor- most of the regulars played a good piece of the Atlanta series.
Dannijd FTW!
CIN ERA+ = 100
CIN’s Rtot was 16
SFG’s Rtot was 36! (second best in MLB)
Pitching + Defense = neutralizing PHI offense.
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
What about the Reds. Was their pitching staff so great? How come the Braves got clutch hits against the Giants but the Phillies can’t? If the Braves’ pen would have held up against the Giants we might not even be playing them. Right now the Giants mediocre offense is outhitting the Phillies so-called sluggers.
what can you do?
They’re either going to hit, or they’re not. You can make some moves, like subbing Francisco for Ibanez, but other than that, just have to hope for the best.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
Losing happens, but it's how you go down that matters sometimes
In principle I agree but also think packimop’s frustration is reasonable (in the context of fandom of course). Matt Cain definitely pitched well enough to win but not well enough to shut us out. 119 pitches in 7 innings with 3 walks, and two hit batsmen isn’t masterful. Hamels actually pitched better in terms of the what pitchers have complete control of. After seeing so many balls hit to second it is reasonable to assume that the line-up just wasn’t making adjustments. Kudos to the Giants – if the boneheads keep swinging at it, keep throwing it. There we’re also some dreadful ABs and some possible coaching failure in that regard; no way should Vic. have been allowed to lift his bat off his shoulders when it was 3-1 in the 7th inning. If he hadn’t swung at ball 4 the bases would have been loaded with your best hitter up. Would you have faith that Vic. would make the right decision at such a critical point in an important game? Again the Giants deserved to win but the Phillies could have also played better unlike the first game in which they bettered their odds by maximizing the factors that influenced those odds – they didn’t exactly do this yesterday.
Their pitching staff was decent- In case you have forgotten, Travis Wood perfecto’ed this same Phillies team in the not too distant past (granted Cerberez was kind of involved, but the only real change from that night was the Phillies having Utley on the field instead of Dobbs/Ransom). He went I believe 4 clean innings in game one, and with the lead the Phillies offense didn’t do too much.
Game 2- Thank goodness for errors- enough said.
Game 3- Volquez was not easy on the Phillies (with same Cerberez warnings) when they saw him during the season. All in all, really not that surprising that the games were close.
Should have read “Travis Wood near perfecto’ed”
by dannijd on Oct 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
How come the Braves got clutch hits against the Giants but the Phillies can’t?
by Spoilt Victorian Child on Oct 20, 2010 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions
You know it’s really a shame that Charlie get’s ripped every time he opens his mouth.
I don’t think the guy is an idiot, though sometimes he sounds like one as he stumbles through sentences. But that’s just who he is, the notion that he is a dumb country bumpkin has been played to death. Brought back to life and then killed again. Get off it. Charlie’s only real issue is that he just sucks with public speaking. He isn’t the first and surely not the last. I would rather listen to Charlie all day than Andy Reid. Maybe that’s just me.
What more do people need to realize that Charlie’s way, as frustrating and mind numbing as it is sometimes, seems to work?
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
played to death. Brought back to life and then killed again.
So…there’s zombies now. Perfect. That’s just what we all needed.
Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 20, 2010 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
What more do people need to realize that Charlie’s way, as frustrating and mind numbing as it is sometimes, seems to work?
My guess is that it’s the whole “broken clock is right two times a day” thing. Yes, Charlie’s way works, but it might not be the best approach. If anything, I think he’s too loyal. Obviously they’ve run up against a good pitching staff, but maybe a little change here or there is just what the team needs.
And the Blanton thing…If you move Halladay up, you need to move everyone else up. So you’re going to have to pitch him one of these games, unless you want H2O pitching on short rest the remainder of the series.
by Screen Name 20 on Oct 20, 2010 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
It could be worse. The Phillies’ manager could be Dusty Baker or Jerry Manuel.
Charlie Manuel: He’s not paradise, but he’s not a parking lot, either.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
If Charlie was Dusty Baker, I would be scared for Cole Hamels.
Or maybe he’d already be one-armed. Or dead.
Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 20, 2010 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I think the general idea that everyone is floating out there is Halladay game 4, Oswalt game 5, Hamels game 6 and Halladay again game 7.
But I don’t know if Hamels is willing or able to go on short rest in game 6.
So to me, I am not sure it is really doable.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
They need Hamels/Halladay/Oswalt at full strength if they have any chance to pull this out. Even if they lose Blanton’s start tonight, I would not write them off with those three going Games 5, 6, and 7. It’d be a tough road, but not ridiculous.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2010 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions
I’m not writing off Blanton, for starters.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh definitely not, just saying that there’s still a sliver of hope in tonight’s worst case scenario.
Cookies has been known to deal.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2010 11:00 AM EDT up reply actions
yes
Blanton’s DIPS were around 4.00 this year and over the second half they were in the 3.60 range. So the difference between Blanton vs. a fully rested Hamels or Oswalt to Blanton is substantial, but not monumental. But that isn’t even the whole equation, which looks more like
Blanton + fully rested Halladay + fully rested Oswalt + fully rested Hamels
vs.
not rested Halladay + not rested Oswalt + not rested Hamels + doubly not rested Halladay
I don’t think it’s obvious at all that the first option is any worse. In fact, it intuitively strikes me as being much better.
After rearranging for ease of analysis, you get:
1. Fully rested Halladay > not rested Halladay
2. Fully rested Oswalt > not rested Oswalt
3. Fully rested Hamels > not rested Hamels
4. Blanton < doubly not rested Halladay (but by enough to outweigh #1-3?)
I guess I’m in the minority of thinking Doc should get the ball tonight. I’m not even sure how one can quantify this other than do you believe that RH 3 days rest > JB 21 days rest? From a psychological perspective, game 4 just seems so damned critical. The difference between being tied 2-2 in the series vs 3-1 and facing elimination seems huge. I may not be thinking this through, but I’m not sure this can even be rationalized until after the outcome of today’s game, if ever.
by Boundforbeach on Oct 20, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t know that you’re in the minority.
I don’t have an opinion on who should get the ball tonight so much as I trust that the pitching staff knows the ability of guys like Halladay and Oswalt to pitch on short rest better than we do.
I’m comfortable in the fact knowing that even if the phillies do somehow lose today I still believe that they have a very good chance of playing game 7 at home with hamels on the mound.
And i’m ok with that
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Exactly.
Those are very good pitchers going on short-rest against fully rested very good pitchers.
by Screen Name 20 on Oct 20, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I’ll say this though – letting Vic swing away with a 3-1 count after Cain walked 2 batters was a piece coaching fail. Unless Vic blew off the sign or misread it, I see no other way for this to have happened unless Vic was left to his own devices which for a coach whose strength is knowing his players is odd: Vic’s not the sharpest knife in the drawer and shouldn’t be trusted to make the right decision in this instance.
I would definitely rather deal with a Charlie Manuel press conference than Andy Reid. Manuel makes me laugh at times, something that Reid never does, and while there are definitely times when he puts up a smoke screen, over all, I feel like one can learn somethinglo
by dannijd on Oct 20, 2010 3:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Singleton
I’m actually really glad to hear about the move to LF. I think it is an encouraging sign that the Phillies may actually keep him instead of trading him. This is great news on an otherwise gloomy morning.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 9:29 AM EDT reply actions
Agreed. Would be awesome if he wasn’t several years away from making the big club. I really feel like this team needs a new LF next year.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
It will have one: Frabanez.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Remember how Ibanez sucked to start the season, and Charlie started a quasi-platoon with Francisco? And then Raul got hot?
http://www.thegoodphight.com
We need a website for this.
Raul Ibanez: Hot or Not?
The on-line voting could dictate the starting lineup.
I am not a witch.
by RememberthePhitans on Oct 20, 2010 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Surely this can’t be possible!!
Contreras and I were just looking at him eating this iguana thing over white rice and he put it away like it was a double cheeseburger, you know?
by LeepinLizardz on Oct 20, 2010 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
With Humphrey Bogart, no doubt.
Me, I always liked Slim.
by phillyinportland on Oct 20, 2010 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Which issue of Captain Jeter and the Avengers featured Grim LeRogue as the psychopathic villain intent on destroying our friendly neighborhood centaur?
heh
Seriously, that dude is just a mess, like Hinckley style. I hope Grim gets the help he needs.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2010 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely. Our field jumpers were funny- and it was fine to complain about then for further damaging the reputation of law abiding Philly Phans everywhere, but this is just a sad reminder of how dangerous fans on the field can be.
by dannijd on Oct 20, 2010 12:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Doyel article ain’t hideous, but is shows some stupidity.
Bottom line is, losing to the Giants won’t really hurt me. I like their team (save Cody Ross) and would be happy to see PTB get back to the WS. We all know that in a short series, anything can happen and the best team doesn’t always win (see Hou-Phi, CHC-Phi, PIT-Phi earlier this year). Truth is, we’re getting spoiled. Phils have been to the playoffs 4 straight years now. LCS 3 straight. WS 2 straight (at least).
I’m hoping for a win, and it’s way too early to panic or chalk it up to a loss, but I’m mentally prepared for it.
Pundits comes close enough to rhyming with idiots to satisfy me
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Maybe it’s as simple as the Giants just wants it more than this lineup.
by The Fish on Oct 20, 2010 11:09 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
heart, hustle, etc.
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2010 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Aaron Rowand wants it more than the other 49 players in this series combined.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 20, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude, don’t forget the alcs
99 players
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
I can’t believe you would question how much Derek Jeter wants it. 98 players.
THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME (for 3 days in 1995).
by Mike Benjamin Hit King on Oct 20, 2010 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Derek Jeter is not a player, he’s a god, how dare you get that wrong.
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Still means that Rowand wants it more than the other 98 players and one god.
by dannijd on Oct 20, 2010 2:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Are you a god?
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2010 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Then...
DIE!!!!!
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by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe it’s as simple as the Giants just wants it more than this lineup.
There’s definitely something simple in what you say
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Well I honestly don’t know how else to explain the offensive woes of a team with as much offensive talent as these guys
by The Fish on Oct 20, 2010 11:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Meh couldn’t figure out if you were agreeing or not. Too tired to think lol
by The Fish on Oct 20, 2010 11:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
“strange things happen in short series” is good enough for me
http://www.thegoodphight.com
by WholeCamels on Oct 20, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Would anyone say the other team ‘wants it more’ if this was a regular-season series? This team has had numerous offensive brown-outs this season and against pitching that was much inferior to what the Giants are throwing out there. I think its just part of the natural ebb and flow of baseball and we’re just going through a rough patch.
This is still a very winnable series. Losing game 1 of a best of 5 isn’t the end of the world.
So should we pay attention to the tides? Seriously, though I get the gist of what your saying but we shouldn’t forget that it is a sport either. In a sport like baseball in which luck is plays a bigger role than most other games the issue is to what ends does a team exploit the factors they control to put the odds more in their favor. In Games1 and 2 the Phillies did this, in Game 3 they did it poorly. We’re by no means out this but I think the crapshoot argument, while correct in some ways is dismissive in others. The "wanting it more " argument some one suggested is just an failed attempt to explain things that are hard to quantify or a refusal to accept bad luck. That said luck, or “the strange things happen in a short series” argument which is true in some cases, shouldn’t be the default fall guy to explain losing either.
I can’t figure it out – how do you pronounce Quade vs Quaid?
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 11:51 AM EDT reply actions
I did hear reports that he’s a smooth operator
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Win tonight
And its a best of 3 with us having home-field and throwing out Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels. I’ll take those odds.
by Nikk.m on Oct 20, 2010 12:01 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Obligatory "Phillies Fans Are Worst" Article
From San Jose Mercury here
/yawn—I’m guessing this paper is a real rag
Author says Phillies were “thrashed” yesterday. In what world is 3-0 a thrashing?
Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est.
The NL West
Where offense goes to die.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
And Pat Burrell gets resurrected
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
True…though I do wonder if Burrell had found a job after leaving the Phillies that was not relegated to just DH duty if he would have been in need of said resurrection.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Or he could have just stayed in Philadelphia and Raul Ibanez wouldn’t be an issue
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 12:38 PM EDT up reply actions
this addresses a question I have: bases on the years Burrell had had, and even the 2008 he’d had, why were the Phillies uninterested in retaining him after that season? (I wasn’t following the offseasons in those days, so I missed all of the debate about it) I mean, given how last year turned out, it looked good in the short run, but, for example, Burrell is much younger than Ibanez, is he not?
The Sphinx doesn’t even know the answer to that riddle.
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. But I don’t think it was an option. Seemed to me like Ruben was hard up for Raul. In hindsight it would have made more sense, IMO to keep Burrell for the 2 years at his price over the contract Raul signed.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
In ‘foresight’ many people thought keeping pat was a better idea than signing Raul.
It’s awesome that he gets 10 mil next year too ain’t it?
by SportingFanaticism on Oct 20, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I was against the decision from the jump. But clearly I am not Ruben.
What I don’t know is if Ruben made the decision to not even consider Burrell because he thought Burrell would command more than he did, or because he just felt that Raul was that much better, or both.
Raul might be a little better than Burrell, but not nearly as much as the difference in salary and the extra year should dictate.
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
I was against that decision at the time too, but it is not irrelevant that Raul has posted about 150% more WAR than Pat over the last two years.
yeah, it looks like it worked out (at least the Raul vs. Pat equation, not nec. the contract itself) in the short run, but I’m curious about the reasoning at the time… I suppose it’s just one of several curious decisions Amaro’s made, so there’s likely not a satisfactory answer. Burrell’s struggles in Tampa certainly made it appears as if the Phillies knew something about him not immediately apparent to outsiders.
The thing about Burrell in Tampa was they never saw him as anything more than a DH, and I wondered whether, as much as he was a poor fielder whether he did not perhaps need to be fielding to keep himself mentally locked in and able to hit well? Designated Hitters are essentially repeatedly used pinch hitters, and maybe just as there are people who excel at being bats off the bench, maybe there are people who need to be in the field- fitting this theory is the fact that Burrell is back to hitting well now that he is in left field in San Fran after over a year of looking bad in Tampa.
by dannijd on Oct 20, 2010 2:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Does Raul’s WAR posting compared to Pat have anything to do with Pat being a DH for 1.5 years of the last 2?
"You can commit no mistake and still lose. That is not a weakness. That is life." - Jean-Luc Picard
Not sure. On one hand, you get more value from being a LF than a DH. On the other hand, I don’t know if you get more value from being a bad LF than a DH. On the other other hand, Pat had a positive UZR as a LF this year. On the other other other hand, that’s probably a fluke.
The difference in positional adjustment is about 6 runs (i.e., he gets a six-run bonus for playing LF instead of DH). Since ‘02 his UZR/150 is -6.4 in LF, and his true talent is probably somewhat worse than that now that he’s 34. (It is true that he had a 4.9 UZR this year but that sample is way too small to be meaningful.) So, no, we should not expect that he lost any value playing DH.
I don’t think taking Ibanez over Burrell was a really smart move, given what we knew at the time, but it’s definitely worked out in our favor.
by Spoilt Victorian Child on Oct 20, 2010 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
If you see the words "Gregg Doyel"...
immediately assume a bunch of idiocy will follow.
"It breaks your heart. It is designed to break your heart. The game begins in the spring, when everything else begins again, and it blossoms in the summer, filling the afternoons and evenings, and then as soon as the chill rains come, it stops and leaves you to face the fall alone." A. Bartlett Giamatti
Great read over at Amazin’ Avenue, on how the Yankees developed into the monster they are now (pitfalls of excessive expectations and a sense of entitlement):
http://www.amazinavenue.com/2010/10/20/1753580/in-the-year-2000-stand-clear-of-the-closing-doors
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